Obamaite primitives discuss bumper sticker

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3667484

Oh my.

elehhhhna  (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 09:25 AM
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Woman charges w/ making terroristic threat for objecting to "Piss on Obama" bumper sticker
   
Sticky Obama issue with these McKains leads to arrest

Sugar Land police say a woman confronted a couple who had a bumper sticker showing someone urinating on candidate's name

By ERIC HANSON
Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle

SUGAR LAND — In case their Plantation Bend neighbors had any questions about how Doug and Wendy McKain feel about Barack Obama, the bumper sticker on their pickup could be a clue.

But when Chynethia Gragg spotted the sticker — depicting someone urinating on the name "Obama" — Sugar Land police say, she stopped to express her disapproval, and that's when things got ugly.

Gragg, 35, has been charged with making a terroristic threat after confronting the McKains, telling them the sticker was racist, police said.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5904413.html

So the Obamaite Gragg made some terroristic threats against the other people using their freedom of expression.

The reader comments at the link are interesting, even funny.

I think any black person who does not support McCain is a racist.

Pretty stupid statement but just as valid as those who think because a white person opposes Obama is a racist. Stupid is as stupid does. from the link, not from Skins's island

Anyway, back to the primitives and their idea about the whole thing:

babylonsister  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 09:27 AM
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2. Cripes. Now disapproval equates to terroristic threats?
   
This is ridiculous.

Mike Daniels  (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #2

7. It wasn't just disapproval....
   
"Mr. McKain said Ms. Gragg said she (would) get someone to take care of him later," the report said.

I'm not quite sure how this is a "terrorist" threat but it is a "threat" nonetheless if the witness is telling the truth.

The usual primitive racism pops in:

Tandalayo_Scheisskopf  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 09:30 AM
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5. Those poor knuckleheads.
   
They likely had to rush home for some prophylactic praying at their altar to St. Tom of DeLay.

Sugarland: Where white trash herds.

Anybody been to Sugarland, Texas?

Is it as bad as Boston, Massachusetts or San Francisco, California, where diverse trash herds?

elehhhhna  (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #5

8. Baloney! We replaced DeLay with a DEMOCRAT...and y'all will probably see Ft.Bend County go blue this year -- our demographic has changed dramatically in the last several years. We're about 40% white, 20% Asian/Indian, 20% Hispanic, 20% African-African/African American.

Tasteless people are everywhere.

MadHound  (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 09:38 AM
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9. Sounds like the woman may have gone a bit too far in her disapproval
   
First of all, I don't see how the sticker could be tagged as racist. Rude, crude, lewd and socially unacceptable, sure, but not racist.

Second, you don't make the threat to send somebody around later to "take care of him later," Sorry, but that is a threat of possible bodily harm. You don't issue such threats, period.

These are the sorts of tactics used by rabid RW fanatics. Verbally confront somebody on a bumper sticker, sure. But carrying it to the point of shouting and profanities is a bit extreme, threats, even more so. Everybody has the right of free speech in this country, even conservative idiots.

However I do think that the charge of making a "terroristic threat" is a little extreme. Once again, it is another example of how far overboard law enforcement has gone post 9/11.

This woman should have stated her opinion calmly, clearly, and then left.

TexasObserver  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 09:50 AM
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13. Agree with all except the part about her having a right to state her opinion.
   
This was not a public place. She followed them home in her car, and confronted them on their property. She was trespassing, and was charged with such.

As for the terroristic threat, that's unfortunately the way the law is styled now. It means just about any kind of threat of physical harm, literal or implied. Is it likely a woman who follows people home, parks in their driveway, and confronts them on their front yard is a woman who would threaten others? Probably. She sounds like she badly needs anger management classes.

This woman was in the wrong, from start to finish. She will be convicted. The insulting nature of the sticker in no way justifies her misconduct. Their speech is protected by the constitution. Her trespass and threats are not.

B Calm  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:08 AM
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22. Deranged republican cowards are scared of a 35 year old women, lol!

TexasObserver  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:16 AM
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27. There's no justification for her conduct, no matter what her political leanings.
   
Or theirs.

It's a bumper sticker. She doesn't have to like it or approve of it, but she does have to respect the right others have to put their bumper stickers on their vehicle. She followed someone home. She's not mentally sound. She committed a trespass, and made threats.

You're not doing Democrats or Obama any favor by approving her actions.

B Calm  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:20 AM
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29. I still think it is funny that the mouth breathing cowards were scared of her!

[Tucker]

Love this part:

According to court documents, police officer H. Norris went to the couple's house about 3 p.m. Tuesday to investigate a verbal disturbance.

Gragg was issued a trespass warning and then arrested on the threat charge, a misdemeanor. She was released Wednesday from the Fort Bend County Jail on $500 bond.

They hauled her ass off to jail.

[Rebel]

How old was this couple? If someone follows me to my home, and starts yelling and screaming at me, on my property, THEY will be taken care of. That I can assure you. 

[Tucker]

How old was this couple? If someone follows me to my home, and starts yelling and screaming at me, on my property, THEY will be taken care of. That I can assure you. 

She's lucky she didn't get shot.

[Lord Undies]

The part that amused me was how the DUmpmonkeys always manage to reinforce the idea that history started for them on January 20, 2001.  Their "outrage" at the term "terroristic threat" is a Broadway Spectacular of ignorance.  They, for inspired reason, assume the phrase was invented, classified, and applied only because of the Bush administration.

Well, DUmbasses, I know the crime and its label is older than I am.  The only really new terminology to come along since President Bush took office are words like "DUmbass", "DUmmie", "DUmpmonkeys", etc.    

 

[DumbAss Tanker]

"Terroristic threat" is a common turn of phrase in State criminal codes, and one which long pre-dates the "Terrorist" era and has no direct connection to it, the primitives of course are too unschooled to grasp this.

[Lord Undies]

"Terroristic threat" is a common turn of phrase in State criminal codes, and one which long pre-dates the "Terrorist" era and has no direct connection to it, the primitives of course are too unschooled to grasp this.

Where are you when my wife misunderstands me? 

[DumbAss Tanker]

"Terroristic threat" is a common turn of phrase in State criminal codes, and one which long pre-dates the "Terrorist" era and has no direct connection to it, the primitives of course are too unschooled to grasp this.

Where are you when my wife misunderstands me? 

Kicked back an' watchin'.  Eatin' da popcornz.

 

[Chris_]

These are the sorts of tactics used by rabid RW fanatics. Verbally confront somebody on a bumper sticker, sure. But carrying it to the point of shouting and profanities is a bit extreme, threats, even more so. Everybody has the right of free speech in this country, even conservative idiot

Um, no.  You liberals  can repeat this meme forever and it doesn't make it true.  Virtually all political hate crimes are from the left, who attack and demean anyone who doesn't agree with them. 

22. Deranged republican cowards are scared of a 35 year old women, lol

29. I still think it is funny that the mouth breathing cowards were scared of her!

No one knows who she could have on the other end of the line.  If this lady was crazy enough to follow them home, she probably has crazy family or friends who are capable of God knows what.  This is the ONLY proper response by the couple.

Dumbshits.