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Offline Carl

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Primitives hate the 1st amendment.
« on: August 31, 2015, 11:53:11 AM »
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Sun Aug 30, 2015, 09:46 PM

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25 Indicted for posts on far-right Stormfront website

Accused of racial hated, threats

(ANSA) - Rome, July 20 - A preliminary hearing judge in Rome on Monday indicted 25 people for alleged writing posts on far-right Stormfront website. They are accused of racial hatred, threats, and violation of Mancino law. That 2013 law prosecutes racism, hate crimes, discrimination and instigation to commit acts inspired by Nazi ideology. Prosecutors said the defendants published in the Italian section of the Stormfront Internet site posts against immigrants, Jews, politicians and public officials.

http://www.ansa.it/english/news/2015/07/20/25-indicted-for-posts-on-far-right-stormfront-website-2_ddf57d15-53f1-412e-9374-26030fbf4d66.html

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Sun Aug 30, 2015, 10:18 PM

Star Member Fred Sanders (16,351 posts)
2. A sensible hate crime law that purposely, clearly and enforceably defines and restricts violent hate speech, as most modern nations do.

Nations with free speech laws that do not restrict hate speech and categorize such speech as a crime face the omnipresent danger of a charismatic national figure using hate speech freely and without criticism by a controlled media to potentially obtain absolute power.

Sounds like Obozo and Holder.

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Sun Aug 30, 2015, 10:29 PM

Star Member NutmegYankee (10,027 posts)
4. So what you're saying is you oppose the First Amendment?

Pretty much.

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Sun Aug 30, 2015, 10:52 PM

Star Member Fred Sanders (16,351 posts)
6. I said what I said. Hate crime laws are restrictions on free speech freely chosen by the freely elected

governments of every Western democracy but one.

What I am saying is America has not chosen wisely.

Even now paying the price for that bit of dumb.

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Sun Aug 30, 2015, 11:26 PM

Star Member NutmegYankee (10,027 posts)
8. This is because you foolishly believe you will always be on the winning side.

What if we lose and laws forbid us to discuss "climate change" or the NRA forced a law declaring anti-gun speech as hate speech?
Or people espousing atheism are considered anti-Christian hate groups.

On the contrary, I think "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech" was very wise.

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Sun Aug 30, 2015, 11:54 PM

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9. Do you actually know what hate speech laws prohibit?

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Sun Aug 30, 2015, 11:58 PM

Star Member NutmegYankee (10,027 posts)
11. Typically religious or racial bigotry.

But once you open that door, you can never close it again.

You will all like your jail cells because every last DUmbass will be arrested.


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Re: Primitives hate the 1st amendment.
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2015, 12:09:14 PM »
One late addition.

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62. I should have known that would never happen in America.

When I read the headline, I wondered how that was even possible, then saw it was not in America. Hell, in America, they can go out and bomb a federal building and the Olypmics and gay bars, shoot doctors, go on mass killing sprees, and anything else they want to do to express their hatred. They rarely ever get stopped. They can just do it and that's that. We are used to it now. I guess making them not bomb or shoot people they hate would infringe on their precious 1st and 2nd Amendment rights
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Re: Primitives hate the 1st amendment.
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2015, 02:01:45 PM »
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62. I should have known that would never happen in America.

When I read the headline, I wondered how that was even possible, then saw it was not in America. Hell, in America, they can go out and bomb a federal building and the Olypmics and gay bars, shoot doctors, go on mass killing sprees, and anything else they want to do to express their hatred. They rarely ever get stopped. They can just do it and that's that. We are used to it now. I guess making them not bomb or shoot people they hate would infringe on their precious 1st and 2nd Amendment rights

Another DU-member living in a fantasy world contrary to the real one.

"... bomb a federal building ... - Perps in prison or executed.

... bomb ... the Olypmics and gay bars ... - Perp executed.

... shoot doctors ... - In prison, except for at least one such shooter ... who has been executed.

Those folks are about as "stopped" as can be, though I wouldn't mind several more murderers having been executed rather than imprisoned.

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I guess making them not bomb or shoot people they hate would infringe on their precious 1st and 2nd Amendment rights

Calling that false statement moronic would be an insult to morons.

... go on mass killing sprees ... - In prison or on trial.
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Re: Primitives hate the 1st amendment.
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2015, 02:25:53 PM »
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6. I said what I said. Hate crime laws are restrictions on free speech freely chosen by the freely elected

No, idiot.  They are forced on the constituency by those with an agenda.    :bird: simpleton.


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Sun Aug 30, 2015, 11:26 PM

Star Member NutmegYankee (10,027 posts)
8. This is because you foolishly believe you will always be on the winning side.

For all the wrong reasons, you're right.

Quote from: Carl on August 31, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
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You will all like your jail cells because every last DUmbass will be arrested.

You're giving me a four + hour stiffie.  I'd better call the Doctor.
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Re: Primitives hate the 1st amendment.
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2015, 03:48:16 PM »
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You're giving me a four + hour stiffie.  I'd better call the Doctor.

At my age, if I had one of those I wouldn't call the doctor. I'd fall down on my knees and thank God!!!
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Re: Primitives hate the 1st amendment.
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2015, 03:55:08 PM »
Quote from: Patriot Guard Rider on August 31, 2015, 03:48:16 PM
At my age, if I had one of those I wouldn't call the doctor. I'd fall down on my knees and thank God!!!

I called my doctor when it happens to me; until she told me was tired of being called at 2 AM every damn night, and to stop bragging.
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Re: Primitives hate the 1st amendment.
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2015, 04:22:45 PM »
4 hour stiffie, huh?.....maybe the woman ain't trying hard enough?
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Re: Primitives hate the 1st amendment.
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2015, 09:50:36 PM »
I bet those people behind Stormfront are also at DU.
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Re: Primitives hate the 1st amendment.
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2015, 01:15:11 AM »
Quote from: SVPete on August 31, 2015, 02:01:45 PM
Another DU-member living in a fantasy world contrary to the real one.

"... bomb a federal building ... - Perps in prison or executed.

... bomb ... the Olypmics and gay bars ... - Perp executed.

... shoot doctors ... - In prison, except for at least one such shooter ... who has been executed.

Those folks are about as "stopped" as can be, though I wouldn't mind several more murderers having been executed rather than imprisoned.

Calling that false statement moronic would be an insult to morons.

... go on mass killing sprees ... - In prison or on trial.

The DUmmy is a DUmmy. Its the ones that use the IRS against political opponents and the ones that traffic guns into mexico to pad statistics that never get stopped. But to the DUmmy, living in the DUmmy fantasy world, those things never actually happened.

Its funny, the guys on red eye radio said the same thing. There are two camps basically left in America. One which is for all intents and purposes disconnected from reality, where things are whatever you say and/or feel they are, and the other, more or less connected at the hip to reality.

There really isn't much in between anymore.


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