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Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« on: August 21, 2015, 07:56:55 PM »
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Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack


Additional details to earlier reports --

Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack onboard high-speed train between Amsterdam and Paris after they take down Kalashnikov-wielding Moroccan gunman known to intelligence services

A group of unarmed US Marines on board a high-speed train between Amsterdam and Paris foiled a terrorist attack after a gunman opened fire with an assault rifle, wounding three people.

The 26-year-old Moroccan national, who was known to security services, came out of the toilet brandishing the gun and opened fire. Fortunately, two US Marines were nearby and overpowered him before he could massacre passengers.

The suspected terrorist had at least nine full magazines of ammunition holding almost 300 rounds. He was also carrying a knife.

Unfortunately, one of the Marines was shot and is believed to be in a critical condition.


Keep fighting, Marine. 

This next part leaped out at me --


Belgian journalist Marin Buxant Tweeted that the US Marines were on leave in Brussels when they spotted the man and followed him on the train. When the suspect went into the toilet, the Marines recognised the sound of a weapon being armed and decided to act immediately.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206426/U-S-Marines-armed-gunman-onboard-high-speed-train-Amsterdam-Paris.html

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malaise (132,056 posts)
5. Good guys without guns foil bad guy with assault rifle and lots of cartridges - this is not good for the NRA. 

Congrats Marines!!!

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Highly trained warriors unarmed due to pussification of the west disarm muslim maniac before he can kill others. I'd say the NRA isn't doing enough.

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Nuclear Unicorn (16,705 posts)
7. Just like gun control kept the shooter from acquiring a rifle and nine 30-round magazines.

Right?

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Renew Deal (62,337 posts)
18. No, it kept other shooters from being armed

Armed terrorists like this would be everywhere silt you had your way.

You think the muslim terrorist bought his guy legally? In France? You are an idiot.

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26. Exactly. Gun nuts are ****ing cowards. Small, tiny, men who carry large weapons to make up for their shortcomings. Not one would ever do what those guys did. I'm sure they benefited from years of training, but still.

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24. +1001

Just hate to see the pro-gun trolls try to kill the vibe on this thread.

The only ones being little bitches are all the anti-gun homos on DU.

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KamaAina (65,225 posts)
11. How would they have recognized him?

the US Marines were on leave in Brussels when they spotted the man and followed him on the train.

Profiling.... [I was going to say ARRRRRRRRRRRRR-my training, sir! but they were marines...]


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KamaAina (65,225 posts)
17. If he was walking down the street like that wouldn't the gendarmerie have spotted him, too?

Guess they didn't... unless you are trying to imply this is some sort of redflag op?

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Nuclear Unicorn (16,705 posts)
31. Post #12 suggests Islamophobia

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Fred Sanders (15,852 posts)
12. The early reports were not sure it was a terrorist until his skin color and his religion were known.

Now for sure we all know!

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23. Our police could take lessons from these Marines.

Two of them managed to subdue a dangerous armed suspect while it takes a dozen cops to bring down unarmed black folk in the US. My heart goes out to the injured Marine and I hope he pulls through.

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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2015, 08:10:58 PM »
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5. Good guys without guns foil bad guy with assault rifle and lots of cartridges - this is not good for the NRA. 

Try it sometime.  I dare you.

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23. Our police could take lessons from these Marines.

B-b-b-b-b-but you idiots were telling us that Vets shouldn't ....... be ......... cops.   :-) :-) :-)

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12. The early reports were not sure it was a terrorist until his skin color and his religion were known.

Now for sure we all know!

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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2015, 08:19:46 PM »
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11. How would they have recognized him?

the US Marines were on leave in Brussels when they spotted the man and followed him on the train.

They didn't recognize him, those Marines must have super skills like DUmmy Hoyt and were able to tell just by looking at him that Haji was armed, what side he was carrying on, if he had a round in the chamber, etc.
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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2015, 08:38:47 PM »
" Good guys without guns foil bad guy with assault rifle and lots of cartridges - this is not good for the NRA. "

They were US Marines, expertly trained for a long time on how to handle situations just like that, and even then, one of the Marines was injured in the process.
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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2015, 10:05:57 PM »
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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2015, 07:27:14 AM »
DUmmies and MSM get it wrong again. It was a U.S. Airman and a national guard member.

But it was AMARICANS and one older Brit that saved the day while the train crew ran and hid.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206426/U-S-Marines-armed-gunman-onboard-high-speed-train-Amsterdam-Paris.html
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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2015, 07:39:30 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on August 22, 2015, 07:27:14 AM
DUmmies and MSM get it wrong again. It was a U.S. Airman and a national guard member.

But it was AMARICANS and one older Brit that saved the day while the train crew ran and hid.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206426/U-S-Marines-armed-gunman-onboard-high-speed-train-Amsterdam-Paris.html

Wait? What?  The French crew ran and hid?  Knock me over with a feather.
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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2015, 07:49:45 AM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on August 22, 2015, 07:39:30 AM
Wait? What?  The French crew ran and hid?  Knock me over with a feather.
Yep....below copied from link.

The actor told Paris Match: 'We heard screaming passengers in English, 'He shoots! He shoots! He has a Kalashnikov!''

The actor, who was travelling with his two children and his girlfriend, said: 'Suddenly, members of the crew ran into the hallway and their faces were pale.'

He said the staff hurried towards their own car on the train and opened it 'with a special key' before they locked themselves inside.

Mr Anglade claims he and other passengers banged on the door and shouted at staff to open up, but their cries for help were ignored.

He said: 'Nobody replied, there was radio silence. It was terrible and unbearable, it was inhumane.

'The minutes seemed like hours and protected my children with my whole body, telling them everything was fine.'


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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2015, 08:17:02 AM »
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They didn't recognize him, those Marines must have super skills like DUmmy Hoyt and were able to tell just by looking at him that Haji was armed, what side he was carrying on, if he had a round in the chamber, etc.

Hoyt is an absolute hoot. I'd recognize him anywhere as he walks down the street armed with cans of beans and excess bicycle tires to protect himself against legal conceal carry folks.
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Many people do not see evil until the gas is flowing into the chamber. That is why they get on the trains in the first place.

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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2015, 09:06:34 AM »
Based on this AP article, there were three Americans who disarmed and subdued the terrorist-wannabe: a USAF airman from CA; a National Guard member from OR; and a student at CSU Sacramento; all friends travelling together. The airman is still hospitalized, due to non-life-threatening throat wounds from a box cutter. The terrorist-wannabe was another Known Wolf.

How this is bad news for the NRA, I can't see. They were travelling unarmed, recognized the cocking of the AK-47 (or -74?), realized that doing nothing would likely be fatal for them, had the skills to do what they did, and the element of surprise (I doubt the terrorist-wannabe had enough respect for his intended victims to believe they might do anything more than cower in hope that he ran out of ammo before killing them all). And these Americans did it. Had they been armed they would have had the advantage of surprise, and the encounter would likely have been more brief, and the airman uninjured.
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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2015, 09:11:11 AM »
Quote from: SVPete on August 22, 2015, 09:06:34 AM
Based on this AP article, there were three Americans who disarmed and subdued the terrorist-wannabe: a USAF airman from CA; a National Guard member from OR; and a student at CSU Sacramento; all friends travelling together. The airman is still hospitalized, due to non-life-threatening throat wounds from a box cutter. The terrorist-wannabe was another Known Wolf.

How this is bad news for the NRA, I can't see. They were travelling unarmed, recognized the cocking of the AK-47 (or -74?), realized that doing nothing would likely be fatal for them, had the skills to do what they did, and the element of surprise (I doubt the terrorist-wannabe had enough respect for his intended victims to believe they might do anything more than cower in hope that he ran out of ammo before killing them all). And these Americans did it. Had they been armed they would have had the advantage of surprise, and the encounter would likely have been more brief, and the airman uninjured.

I don't know what the gun laws are in Belgium but I doubt they could have been armed, even if they wanted to be. Since it was in Europe, I don't think the NRA has any influence one way or the other.

Lesson to be learned, Americans won't f*ck around.
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Many people do not see evil until the gas is flowing into the chamber. That is why they get on the trains in the first place.

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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2015, 09:13:41 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on August 22, 2015, 07:27:14 AM
DUmmies and MSM get it wrong again. It was a U.S. Airman and a national guard member.

But it was AMARICANS and one older Brit that saved the day while the train crew ran and hid.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3206426/U-S-Marines-armed-gunman-onboard-high-speed-train-Amsterdam-Paris.html

Even better, imho. It shows that any of our servicemen will stand up and face evil head on.
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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2015, 09:41:27 AM »
Quote from: dutch508 on August 22, 2015, 09:13:41 AM
Even better, imho. It shows that any of our servicemen will stand up and face evil head on.

The current administration will get right on trying to stomp that out.
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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2015, 09:54:05 AM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on August 22, 2015, 07:39:30 AM
Wait? What?  The French crew ran and hid?  Knock me over with a feather.
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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2015, 10:16:52 AM »
Quote from: Patriot Guard Rider on August 22, 2015, 09:11:11 AM
I don't know what the gun laws are in Belgium but I doubt they could have been armed, even if they wanted to be. Since it was in Europe, I don't think the NRA has any influence one way or the other.

Lesson to be learned, Americans won't f*ck around.

I also doubt it would have been legal for them to be armed. Another example of gun "control" laws setting up law-abiding citizens to be victims of those whose life-style is breaking laws. I wonder whether EuroLand train stations have security screening for weapons, and if so, how the terrorist-wannabe got that AK-47 (or -74) and multiple loaded clips on board that train (e.g. planted by an accomplice?).

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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2015, 10:17:22 AM »
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Still loaded with original rounds, right? :whistling:
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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2015, 10:25:23 AM »
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Still loaded with original rounds, right? :whistling:
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Re: Unarmed US Marines foil suspected terrorist attack in France
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2015, 08:38:21 AM »
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5. Good guys without guns foil bad guy with assault rifle and lots of cartridges - this is not good for the NRA. 

Congrats Marines!!!

We aren't allowed to carry our own weapons in France...even if we could bring them with us when we're station here they aren't allowed in most European countries.

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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2015, 08:55:59 AM »
Quote from: txradioguy on August 23, 2015, 08:38:21 AM
We aren't allowed to carry our own weapons in France...even if we could bring them with us when we're station here they aren't allowed in most European countries.

Idiot.

Isn't most of EuroLand under some form of strict gun control? Except for the Swiss?

And yet mass shootings (Charlie Hebdo) and attempted mass shootings happen? Damn those Swiss and their gun-fetish!
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Quote from: SVPete on August 23, 2015, 08:55:59 AM
Isn't most of EuroLand under some form of strict gun control? Except for the Swiss?

And yet mass shootings (Charlie Hebdo) and attempted mass shootings happen? Damn those Swiss and their gun-fetish!
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