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Liberal_in_LA (38,323 posts) Thanks, Obamacare: America's Uninsured Rate Is Below 10% For First Time EverFor the first time in more than 50 years of surveys, the CDC on Wednesday reported that more than 90% of Americans — 90.8% of us, to be specific — have health insurance. Until now, no major survey had ever found that the uninsured rate in America has hit single digits. The data comes from the National Health Interview Survey, which the CDC and the Census Bureau have been conducting for more than 50 years. The questions have sometimes changed, but until this year, the answers haven’t: More than 10% of respondents, and sometimes as many as 18% of Americans, have reported that they’ve been uninsured. http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2015/08/12/for-first-time-americas-uninsured-rate-is-below-10/
JoePhilly (22,479 posts) 1. Yea, but those are all low wage part-time insured people.Or some other negative talking point.
ohheckyeah (8,593 posts) 2. Thanks a lot -My premium doubled, my deductible went from $1,000 to 4,000 and I now owe Carillion $3,000. I guess it's great if you don't actually use it.
Fred Sanders (15,521 posts) 3. Folks are thirsting for a proven leader, even as they are convinced to ignore the leader they elected twice.
zipplewrath (10,157 posts) 4. All for 5%?So all of that hate and bother, and a blown midyear election, not to mention the creation of the Tea Party, and putting insurance companies squarely in the drivers seat between us and our health care, with no public option to "keep them honest". And it was all for 5%? Lest we forget, many of those 5% can't afford to use it. Yeah, I know, if we can get Florida and Texas to institute Medicaid reform we can get that up to 8%. Still it seems like a lot of political capital to get halfway to the real goal. I can't imagine what it will cost us to "finish the job".
geek tragedy (49,777 posts) 6. What a deranged post.1) 5% is 15 million human beings. With thousands of lives being saved each year. Sorry that number doesn't impress you. 2) The ACA did not "put insurance companies squarely in the drivers seat between us and our health care." The insurance companies were always there to begin with. Well, them and the employers. 3) You conveniently ignore the benefits aside from the expansion in coverage, including the suppressed rate of premium increase and the slowdown in costs associated with healthcare on the federal budgetary level. Not to mention all of the other benefits and protections.
zipplewrath (10,157 posts) 7. And it leaves out 30 millionWe can match numbers all night, but at the end of the day we paid a heck of a price for a 5% improvement and not reaching any of the real goals.
geek tragedy (49,777 posts) 8. "real goals?" nt
zipplewrath (10,157 posts) 9. Universal Health CareControlling health care costs Getting the same kind of value that most of the industrialized countries get. People not missing health care because they couldn't afford the underlying costs. No more medical bankruptcies.
geek tragedy (49,777 posts) 10. Truly universal care would meansingle payer, which was never a possibility. Costs have been controlled. The goal was reform and improvement. The ACA undoubtedly did that, saving thousands of lives in the process. Takes quite some stubbornness to call that a policy failure. Democrats lost the house in 2010 because of structural forces.
KentuckyWoman (596 posts) 12. Insurance does not mean access to medical care.I don't give a fig how many are "insured". Tell me if we can afford to get decent medical care when we need it without having the remortage the house... IF there's any equity left it that is. Universal single payer medical care. Period. Anything short of that is bullshit. Edit to add - I'm glad to see the improvement thanks to ACA and yes I understand the will in DC to get Single payer Universal care is just not there. And yes I understand ACA is an effort to get at that through the side door. But too many "insured" still can't see the doctor when they need to.
Shandris (1,984 posts) 13. The Personal is Political...until it's time to share a story, then......no one gives a damn because statistics say . Insurance wasn't keeping people from seeing the doctor, it was keeping them from seeing the doctor before they needed to. Unfortunately, nothing in the ACA helps that at all. Edited to add: Edit placed here intentionally to expound a bit more. What I'm referring to is emergency rooms. You can always get into an emergency room, and typically we 'financially disadvantaged' use it instead of a 'family doctor'. That hasn't changed a bit. We don't need single payer. We need NO payer. Currency is an outdated concept and it's time we start looking towards a future without it.
The reason our premiums are skyrocketing is that we had a junk policy.Every single one of us had a junk policy.
