MineralMan no longer feeling the Bern

[JakeStyle]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251507197

The DU BernieBackers drove him away with their blatant racism and rude behavior towards the Hildabeast.

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:03 AM

Star Member MineralMan (75,052 posts)

Black Lives Matter! Period. Therefore I Have Altered my Primary Intentions.
Recent attacks on people who insist that attention be paid to the wholesale killing of unarmed black people by official government law enforcement officers has convinced me that my support for Bernie Sanders in the primaries was misplaced. When I align myself with a candidate and pledge support for that candidate, I am aligning myself with that candidate's supporters.

I can no longer do that in good faith. Due to actions by supporters of Senator Sanders, I am withdrawing my support for him at our caucuses in Minnesota. I cannot be aligned any longer with his supporters, which has cost that candidate my own support. His insistence that economic changes will produce the kind of social change that is so much needed no longer can be supported, either.

Perhaps he will change that line of thinking, and perhaps not. He appears to be convinced of it. Yes, he has supported civil rights issues throughout his career, but his current campaign focuses too much on economics and not enough on redressing the real and continuing racial inequality in the United States. Both are critically important, and focusing only on one will not result in the changes that are desperately needed.

Some will, no doubt, say that I never actually supported Sanders in the first place. They are incorrect. I know my own heart and mind. Nobody else does. So, I will ignore such comments.

Candidates are known by many through the actions of their supporters. That can be very beneficial for the candidate or very harmful. Certain actions by supporters of Senator Sanders, whose politics in general are well-aligned with my own, have represented the candidate very poorly, and I see no tendency for them to change. Those supporters may well poison his campaign and cause the rejection of a broad base of support by PoC. Without that support, he cannot win the Presidency, and it is crucial that we elect a Democratic President in 2016.

As of now, I will be supporting Hillary Clinton to become the Democratic nominee for President. I believe she will be the nominee, and think that Bernie Sanders has reached his peak of support by the general Democratic voting public. What a shame! Hillary Clinton has and will continue to have broad support from all segments of our society. That support is absolutely critical. Loss of any sector of support will lead to a Republican as President. The Sanders campaign is too narrow and focused on only part of the change needed. Sanders supporters are making enemies, not friends. That simply will not work, and I will not support it.

He could have just written "You ****ers are nuts." and saved himself some time.

Response to SonderWoman (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:23 AM

Star Member cali (103,440 posts)
67. wow. that is as false as it gets. Sanders has been respectful to her to the max

Article after article has been written about his refusal to dump on her even when baited to do so. And your behavior regarding Sanders and his supporters has been reprehensible.

You seem not to have even a passing acquaintance with the truth. Shame on you for the false claim about how Sanders has treated HRC.
Don't think. Just pay attention

Response to cali (Reply #67)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:49 AM

SonderWoman (86 posts)
84. But this op is about supporters, not Sanders.

I'm just not understanding how Bernie supporters think that constantly attacking Clinton and her supporters is going to lead to unity. Bernie can't win without Hillary supporters, but Hillary could probably win without Bernie supporters. It's obvious most of them won't vote for Hillary in the GE so why should HRC supporters vote for him?

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:25 AM

Star Member aikoaiko (21,978 posts)
16. Lol. I was wondering when you were going to so this.

I'm glad you've come out as you truly are.

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:34 AM

Star Member cyberswede (21,917 posts)
24. Ridiculous.

Basing support for a candidate on some loudmouths on the internet? That seems shallow.

Despite what some people believe, the BLM attention has gotten the Sanders campaign to be more clear in support of issues of importance to POC. That's a good thing.

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:48 AM

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38. ugh

One thing is certain, many of the Sanders supporters either cannot see or don't care how their words offend others. It's elect Bernie at whatever cost.

think is more concerned if Sonder Woman knows Bernie's new press director than he is about the article she linked to. Had he read the article, he could have pointed to Sanders recently released reform package as being responsive to BLM concerns. Instead, think goes with the insult, asking sarcastically if Sonder Woman reads the news.

Then there's whatchamacallit referring to the OP as a genius (not).

DisgustipatedinCA and Facility Inspector are equally ungracious.

I like Bernie. I find many of his supporters here to be mean spirited to people who aren't as passionate about him. I guess they don't care about your vote Mineral Man, but they should.

DU may not be the whole of the world, but it's a decent sample size. Hillary may not be ideal, but if people feel more welcome there, why not?

I may yet vote for Bernie, but it will be in spite of his supporters.
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[USA4ME]

MineralMan

As of now, I will be supporting Hillary Clinton to become the Democratic nominee for President.

That's a real shame, because I'm willing to bet the Clintonites didn't want him on their side, either.

.

[Carl]

No one cares what you think rock head.

[franksolich]

No one cares what you think rock head.

You know, this is ridiculous, although decent and civilized people can get a great deal of merriment out of it.

This is a fight the primitives don't have to fight.

I blame it on the now-gone Skippy, the NYC_SKP primitive, who alleged some time ago that Bernie was "more left" than Hillary. 

The primitives, including Skippy, tend to be ideologically illiterate.

And they tend to be attracted by (to them) bright shiny labels.

The primitives are always yearning for someone "more left" than anybody else in the whole entire universe, and once Skippy decreed that this was the case with Bernie, the primitives jumped on the Bernie bandwagon.....despite that he's no "more left" than Hillary, or that she's no less "left" than he is.

And it's no wonder the professional Democrats are concerned about the primitives' fixation with the old guy.  Messalina Agrippina has a better chance of winning the election in 2016 than does this old guy, and so best to stick with a likely winner than a likely loser.

Since there's no difference between senescent Bernie and Hillary, the primitives might as well simply go with the one more likely to win the general election.  It's as simple as that.

The primitives don't have to be fighting this fight, but it's fun to watch.

[Carl]

You know, this is ridiculous, although decent and civilized people can get a great deal of merriment out of it.

This is a fight the primitives don't have to fight.

I blame it on the now-gone Skippy, the NYC_SKP primitive, who alleged some time ago that Bernie was "more left" than Hillary. 

The primitives, including Skippy, tend to be ideologically illiterate.

And they tend to be attracted by (to them) bright shiny labels.

The primitives are always yearning for someone "more left" than anybody else in the whole entire universe, and once Skippy decreed that this was the case with Bernie, the primitives jumped on the Bernie bandwagon.....despite that he's no "more left" than Hillary, or that she's no less "left" than he is.

And it's no wonder the professional Democrats are concerned about the primitives' fixation with the old guy.  Messalina Agrippina has a better chance of winning the election in 2016 than does this old guy, and so best to stick with a likely winner than a likely loser.

Since there's no difference between senescent Bernie and Hillary, the primitives might as well simply go with the one more likely to win the general election.  It's as simple as that.

The primitives don't have to be fighting this fight, but it's fun to watch.

The DUmbasses are certain that crazy bernie is an executive order away from granting them a 5,000 dollar per month check.
That is all they care about.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

The DUmbasses are certain that crazy bernie is an executive order away from granting them a 5,000 dollar per month check.
That is all they care about.

The Bern-outs think Sanders will give them things.

The politically aware-but-still-in-denial set are the Hillions.

They know she is as big an establishment stooge as is Jeb but they also realize she is all their party has to staunch the bleeding inflicted by Obama even if they won't intellectually admit facts. She's their best chance to buy the WH to keep too many cuts from happening.

[wasp69]

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:03 AM

Star Member MineralMan (75,052 posts)

I Have Altered my Primary Intentions.

Due to actions by supporters of Senator Sanders, I am withdrawing my support for him at our caucuses in Minnesota. I cannot be aligned any longer with his supporters

Okay, DUmbasses, I think this might be the right time to point out that Minnesota Moses, your own MineralMan, is not what you think - he's there to demoralize you Bern-outs and make you #BowDownBernie to Hillary. 

That's right, DUmmies, he's a no kidding, GOP agent provocateur to divide you Bernbots.

Don't believe me?  If a racist black girl can be pegged as a GOP plant because she had a Sarah Palin button on her backpack 8 years ago, then a four year poster at Free Republic is never to be trusted.

Don't thank me, morons, just pay it forward.

[JakeStyle]

Okay, DUmbasses, I think this might be the right time to point out that Minnesota Moses, your own MineralMan, is not what you think - he's there to demoralize you Bern-outs and make you #BowDownBernie to Hillary. 

That's right, DUmmies, he's a no kidding, GOP agent provocateur to divide you Bernbots.

Don't believe me?  If a racist black girl can be pegged as a GOP plant because she had a Sarah Palin button on her backpack 8 years ago, then a four year poster at Free Republic is never to be trusted.

Don't thank me, morons, just pay it forward.

A few DUmmies throw his FreeRepublic history in his face every now and then, his response is that he was just there to troll the freepers until they finally gave him the boot.

[wasp69]

A few DUmmies throw his FreeRepublic history in his face every now and then, his response is that he was just there to troll the freepers until they finally gave him the boot.

Oh, I know what he says.  The only problem with that is that it took them 4 years to boot him - and FR is/was not a place that suffered idiots like Moses lightly.  That alone should give every DUmbass in $kinner's asylum pause for reflection.      

[Mr Mannn]

MineralMan

As of now, I will be supporting Hillary Clinton to become the Democratic nominee for President.

OK, answer me this MM.
WHEN did Hillary support BLM?
When did she start spouting their rhetoric?
When did she even meet with their leaders?
When did she march in Ferguson?
When did the Hill-B!tch  ever do ANYTHING that would show support for Black lives?

This is why I think you are a wimp, MM. Your support is not based on comvictions, but on political correctness. Democrat men are feminized, panty waist, girly boys without an ounce of spine.
               

[98ZJUSMC]

Hillary Clinton has and will continue to have broad support from all segments of our society.

[delilahmused]

Hillary doesn't have broad support from the country now, though she does have the support of a bunch of baby killing broads.

Cindie

[Happy Fun Ball]

If black lives mattered so much to them, why aren't the all for Ben Carson?


I know I know, but still...

[Rebel]

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:03 AM

Star Member MineralMan (75,052 posts)

Black Lives Matter! Period. Therefore I Have Altered my Primary Intentions.
Recent attacks on people who insist that attention be paid to the wholesale killing of unarmed black people by official government law enforcement officers

Look, you stupid drama queen, by BLM's OWN graphic they put out the other day, 24 unarmed black guys have been killed by cops this year. Out of 42 million black people in the nation. That's....

.000057%

HARDLY a ****ing epidemic. 

[thundley4]

Look, you stupid drama queen, by BLM's OWN graphic they put out the other day, 24 unarmed black guys have been killed by cops this year. Out of 42 million black people in the nation. That's....

.000057%

HARDLY a ****ing epidemic. 

Hell, that doesn't even qualify as a good start. 

[SVPete]

... His insistence that economic changes will produce the kind of social change that is so much needed no longer can be supported, either.

Perhaps he will change that line of thinking, and perhaps not. He appears to be convinced of it. ...

Hello! Sanders is a Socialist! Socialists, by Marxian definition, view all of life through the lens of economics!

OK, answer me this MM.
WHEN did Hillary support BLM?

Given recent events, its seems very possible that Tsaritsa CHILL is currently BLM's biggest $$ supporter, IYKWIM.

[txradioguy]

Look, you stupid drama queen, by BLM's OWN graphic they put out the other day, 24 unarmed black guys have been killed by cops this year. Out of 42 million black people in the nation. That's....

.000057%

HARDLY a ****ing epidemic. 

Only 24? Hell that's a slow weekend in Chicago or an average month in Baltimore.

[Rebel]

Only 24? Hell that's a slow weekend in Chicago or an average month in Baltimore.

Yeah, EXTREMELY slow weekend. This is what they put out:

[obumazombie]

Hello! Sanders is a Socialist! Socialists, by Marxian definition, view all of life through the lens of economics!

Given recent events, its seems very possible that Tsaritsa CHILL is currently BLM's biggest $$ supporter, IYKWIM.

Hitlary is nothing if not deft at attracting indirect but deep pocketed support...

NBC’s relationship with the Clintons hasn’t always been cushy.
For Vanity Fair’s September issue, contributing editor Evgenia Peretz profiled Chelsea Clinton’s life in a piece entitled, “A Clinton to the Core.”

In it, Peretz researched Chelsea’s background as an NBC special correspondent by interviewing an NBC veteran as well as an NBC insider, who dubbed Chelsea as NBC’s “highest-paid ghost” who “has to be very near the top” of NBC’s “bad decisions.” f



In the middle of her story, Peretz focused on Chelsea’s highly-criticized job at NBC, where Chelsea did segments beginning in 2011 for NBC News and Brian Williams’ former show, Rock Center.
“Her stint at NBC was a disaster, perhaps because it ran so contrary to her instincts,” wrote Peretz, before quoting an NBC veteran who revealed that, “Most of us were baffled [by the hire], because she never even spoke to the press.”

On top of that, Chelsea was frequently absent in the office.
“There was a joke inside the building that she was the ‘highest-paid ghost’ at NBC,” an NBC source told Peretz.

During her nearly three-year stay, Chelsea “filed only a handful of segments,” Peretz said, which caused the NBC insider to add, “NBC has made a lot of bad decisions in the last few years, but hiring Chelsea has to be very near the top.”
Other issues that Chelsea’s NBC colleagues had, according to Peretz, were “the feeling inside NBC” that “she had been hired to maintain access to and curry favor with the Clintons,” the revelation that Chelsea earned more for her part-time job ($600,000) than full-time correspondents, and the inability to communicate with Chelsea (they had to go through “her people”).

[emphasis added]

But Peretz felt protective of Chelsea, just as, she stressed, the country does.
“Except among members of right-wing media, the idea of making Chelsea Clinton uncomfortable feels wrong,” she wrote.

“Our national instinct is to protect and revere her—to treat her more like royal progeny than an adult who has taken on a position of global consequence.” Peretz’s words echoed those of Jessica Contrera from The Washington Post, who recently called Chelsea “the closest thing America has to a princess.”

full article...


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/katie-yoder/2015/08/11/nbc-insider-chelsea-clinton-highest-paid-ghost-tops-nbcs-worst#sthash.FVWuFjtn.dpuf

[SVPete]

Other issues that Chelsea’s NBC colleagues had, according to Peretz, were “the feeling inside NBC” that “she had been hired to maintain access to and curry favor with the Clintons,”

WJC was a master at using access to arm-twist coverage the way he wanted it to be. OTOH, BHO treats his drooling lapdog media sycophant-shills like crap, and has probably gotten less and worse from them as a result.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:03 AM

Star Member MineralMan (75,052 posts)
...
Some will, no doubt, say that I never actually supported Sanders in the first place. They are incorrect. I know my own heart and mind. Nobody else does. So, I will ignore such comments.
...

Well have you learned the arts of lying from Darths Bill-da and Hil-da, young padawan.