The greatest rat**** of all time.

[dutch508]

SwampG8r (8,967 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251504091

The greatest rat**** of all time.


Who benefits?
BLM looks foolish and disorganized.
The wedge being forced into the Sanders campaign of race issues is reaffirmed and strengthens.
Hillary is going to get the blame as it profits her in the short term causing a genuine rift in the party which could lead to a sit out.
BLM will lose needed support by many if successfully painted as active agents of HRC
Wedges driven into white progressive support for BLM .

Wow that is one hell of a days work.
So who will benefit from A A and white liberal voter suppression?

My answer is based on long range thinking.
If I am the right I need to first diminish the impact of a movement resonating with both the aa community and white liberals/progressives.
That's BLM which I believe we ALL support the aims of whoever we are on the bandwagon for.
So every one gets hurt feelings and BLM loses credibility and support.
Sanders again is associated in a vague manner as racist or lacking in leadership on race issues despite a lifetime spent in the pursuit of equality for all.
Hillary will be tarred with this too and in fact it began as soon as it happened. She will have lost forever any hope of many Sanders supporters votes as too many will assume Clinton involvement.

I see a deep right wing attack in hopes of suppressing 2 of our sides most regular and consistent blocs.

Called it.

Ed Suspicious (4,452 posts)
1. I think you might well be on to something.

fixed the post.

SwampG8r (8,967 posts)
4. Who benefits

If we are all frustrated if we are all at each other
I actually feel sorry for Hillary since nothing she says no matter how sincere will be fully believed and staying silent on it will earn her the same.
I don't think they staged it (the GOP) but they are using it to divide and distract.

oh, come on now... stop backpedaling.

sabrina 1 (56,449 posts)
3. Interesting. Someone pm'd me earlier that they believed this was a Rovian controlled event, designed to destroy all the Dem candidates. As you pointed out, Hillary gets the blame, Bernie is smeared in the most infamous Rovian way, 'attack his strength' and the party is split. That leaves the Repubs, Jeb most likely, winning the election.

I said I did not think so, that I believed it was a Hillary campaign dirty trick.

But your OP made me think about it.

It IS a dirty trick, but whose?

Hillary Campaign or Right Wing Rove to split Dems?

Either way it didn't work, thankfully. At least not re Bernie who handled it brilliantly then went on to do the job he was invited to do, protect the most vulnerable citizens of this country.

But you did make me wonder if the Rove scenario might have some validity. It definitely had Rove written all over it, starting with NRN.

 

SwampG8r (8,967 posts)
5. I believe nrn was a real event

If she showed she would have got what everyone got.
What makes it smell ultra right to me is it also stole credibility from BLM

thecrow (4,721 posts)
10. I feel you have a point there

Plus, I was reminded of the Florida recount when the republicons were in that hallway raging.
The way that woman was shrieking and throwing herself around reminded me of the way
the RW always talks and shrieks over other people. Nothing short of incredible rudeness, and extremely
counterproductive.

villager (23,163 posts)
6. The right did this regularly with movements in the 60's

...and I saw some of it first hand in infiltrated environmental movements in the 80's.

"Cui bono," indeed.

SwampG8r (8,967 posts)
7. Are there many of us left?

Nice to see the old folks represented
59 here and my seeing what went on then taught me there's things you know and things you KNOW
What did that dude say
Known unknowns ......argle bargle

dreamnightwind (3,072 posts)
20. Smells much more like DLC - New Dem tactics to me

I have an open mind, trying to figure this out like everyone else. Bill Clinton's call to Trump set in motion a RW outsider campaign that instantly gave the MSM a convenient way to ignore everything Bernie. My guess is they are worried about the challenge on their left, and are active on several fronts to head it off. Just a guess, at this point.

[Carl]

White leftists,that think crazy bernie is going to rain free shit down on them,are mad that blacks actually think they deserve some too after voting dumbocrat for the decades the old racist LBJ sneered at them about.

[BannedFromDU]

White leftists,that think crazy bernie is going to rain free shit down on them,are mad that blacks actually think they deserve some too after voting dumbocrat for the decades the old racist LBJ sneered at them about.

     The irony is that the free shit is currently being rained down on about 6 BLM psychos, by Hillary, in the form of free weaves, iphones, high heels, and assorted baubles.

[SVPete]

  Play with fire, fingers get burned. Enjoy the fruits of your labors, Progs!

[USA4ME]

These BLM whackos have been telling everyone plain as day why they're going after the Dems. The primitives are trying to assign a motive to what the BLMers are doing, and these BLMers are just not that deep of thinkers.

Look primitives, what they're saying is that blacks have overwhelmingly supported your party for years and then you use them and toss them away and they aren't gonna play that anymore. And the old standby excuse of saying "But, those Republicans...!!!!" isn't going to work. That's their message to you.

Believe me, if they ever try to deliver a message to me, I'll answer them in ways they can't conceive and in a way that's loud and clear to them. But this message of theirs is all for you and your white privileged liberal selves.

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[delilahmused]

I'm still trying to figure out what the BLM movement is supposed to accomplish. If they're tired of the plantation, this is not the way to get off it. And I thought it was paradise for them since Barry was crowned.

Cindie

[Aristotelian]

sabrina 1 (56,449 posts)
3. Interesting. Someone pm'd me earlier that they believed this was a Rovian controlled event, designed to destroy all the Dem candidates. As you pointed out, Hillary gets the blame, Bernie is smeared in the most infamous Rovian way, 'attack his strength' and the party is split. That leaves the Repubs, Jeb most likely, winning the election.

What is Rove and the V.R.W.C. supposed to do? Retire just because you got Obama into the White House?

The plans are all coming together DUmmy, don't you worry about that.

[jukin]

Come on now! This is the post racial America that stupid white leftists voted for by giving a devout racist the presidency not once but twice. Imagine a white president saying that black males killing whites is not OK and that wink-wink it's understandable if a few blacks start paying a price for that? Because that is exactly what the black racist president has done numerous times. Hell he even sent huge contingents to many black criminal's funerals but not to any of the service people killed by muzzies.

[98ZJUSMC]

villager (23,163 posts)
6. The right did this regularly with movements in the 60's

...and I saw some of it first hand in infiltrated environmental movements in the 80's.

You're an idiot.

and these BLMers are just not that deep of thinkers.

That's being kind. 

[Ptarmigan]

I'm still trying to figure out what the BLM movement is supposed to accomplish. If they're tired of the plantation, this is not the way to get off it. And I thought it was paradise for them since Barry was crowned.

Cindie

It is about glorifying thugs. Not all Blacks are equal.

[delilahmused]

Next thing you know, the Rethugs will be bringing out the weather machine.

Cindie

[miskie]

Next thing you know, the Rethugs will be bringing out the weather machine.

Cindie

Party !! Wooo !!!      

[Ralph Wiggum]

Next thing you know, the Rethugs will be bringing out the weather machine.

Cindie

LMAO!!!

[landofconfusion80]

Party !! Wooo !!!      

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuapCENFM2U[/youtube]

Hurricane Party!!!

[miskie]

I slapped a little something together for the benefit of DU     - It's in the smiley popup box.

[delilahmused]

I slapped a little something together for the benefit of DU     - It's in the smiley popup box.

H5!

[jukin]

I slapped a little something together for the benefit of DU     - It's in the smiley popup box.

SPOT ON!!!

[thundley4]

The "big tent" of the democrat party is starting to leak, and the various little identity politics cliques all think they are the most important. That's causing a lot of infighting so of course, it has to be a genius plot by those stupid republicans. 

I'd say the fags and dykes matter more to the left than blacks do.

12% of the population is black, and their struggles have literally lasted decades with no gain whatsoever with the democrat party as their champion.

Pole smokers and rug munchers make up barely 3% of the population, but the democrat party has given them almost everything they have wanted.

#BlackLivesDontMatterToTheDemocratPartyJustTheirVotes

[delilahmused]

The "big tent" of the democrat party is starting to leak, and the various little identity politics cliques all think they are the most important. That's causing a lot of infighting so of course, it has to be a genius plot by those stupid republicans. 

I'd say the fags and dykes matter more to the left than blacks do.

12% of the population is black, and their struggles have literally lasted decades with no gain whatsoever with the democrat party as their champion.

Pole smokers and rug munchers make up barely 3% of the population, but the democrat party has given them almost everything they have wanted.

#BlackLivesDontMatterToTheDemocratPartyJustTheirVotes

Don't forget the Trans-whatever. They're the current flavor of the month!

Cindie

[thundley4]

Don't forget the Trans-whatever. They're the current flavor of the month!

Cindie

But Bruce Jenner being a republican and also keeping his dick left a sour taste in their mouths.

[delilahmused]

But Bruce Jenner being a republican and also keeping his dick left a sour taste in their mouths.

Oh, you are such a bad boy!

Cindie

[SVPete]

H5!

Dittoes!