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Offline McGrady80

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Bush vs Obama: my opinion
« on: August 08, 2015, 11:16:57 PM »
This whole president thing is BS. Bush made a WAY better president than Obama and that's definitely saying something. If you look at the statistics, there has been far more mass shootings while Obama has taken the seat than Bush. See here: http://www.thewire.com/politics/2013/09/mass-killing-incidents-obama-took-office-mapped/69467/

And the way Obama tries to deal with things (like calling gun control) is utter garbage. Bush has handled so much WAY better than Obama. Ever since he declared weapons of mass destruction after 9/11 before Obama's presidency, there has been little to very few terrorist violence in the United States by the Patriot Act, which was signed by Bush himself. He increased our national security and our foreign policy and changed our country for a better. Ever since Obama has become president, terrorist violence has become rampant (see the recent shooting in Chattanooga and the Boston Bombing for a few brief examples). Geez, I wonder why? And there has also been numerous international incidents since Obama's presidency, look at Syria, North Korea, Libya and now Iran and Russia. When Bush was president, it was mainly Iraq, which the war is over now. Now that Obama is president, the war that we're fighting in Afghanistan is raging even harder. All I'm saying is that Obama doesn't know how to handle things very well, and is HORRIBLE decision maker.

Bush was a funny ass guy, and he brought life to politics. He was literally the only president to make watching a speech entertaining. And the fact that Bush had WAY less assassination attempts than Obama (only one for Bush from what I know, even though he served a whole 8 year term in office, while Obama is about to serve his last 7th year, and he has received so many that there's a whole Wikipedia article dedicated to the attempts on his life) is also saying something about the American opinion on Obama. While I'm not promoting violence against our president, all I'm saying with this is that more Americans were in favor of Bush being president and that Obama definitely rigs his polls. In fact, in the only assassination attempt that was done on Bush, the perpetrator wasn't even an American! So obviously our sworn enemies hate Bush! But my point of this post is that Bush should've stayed for at least one more term before the inevitable of Obama becoming president happened, so we could at least keep some things that we lost with him becoming our president.

One little additional bit of information, Obama is more favored by only LIBERALS, while Bush was a favorite of not only Conservatives, but maybe also some liberals too. The thing is, nobody other than Liberals are in favor of Obama. Seriously, no one.

And before you say "well, a majority of the people who hated Obama enough to kill him were bigots" well, that may be true, but doesn't that still mean that a lot of people in our country don't trust him? And sure, maybe you don't agree with a leader running our country, but you have to at least agree with me that if you did, then you would want somebody who could run it well then, right? You at least want somebody a lot of us can put our trust in, right?

And according to the telegraph, Obama receives 30 DEATH THREATS A DAY. If you're getting that much hate, maybe you should take a step back and look at what you're doing that's wrong and what's causing that and try to improve it. Just sayin.

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Re: Bush vs Obama: my opinion
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2015, 09:45:57 AM »
Bush lost me when he went full retard on illegal immigration. Nice guy, but ****ed in the head in that department.
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Re: Bush vs Obama: my opinion
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2015, 10:23:39 AM »
I will agree that I'm not the biggest fan of Bush, but I will say that he beats Obama by a landslide!

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Re: Bush vs Obama: my opinion
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2015, 10:30:15 AM »
Bush lost me when he went full retard on illegal immigration. Nice guy, but ****ed in the head in that department.

I will agree that I'm not the biggest fan of Bush, but I will say that he beats Obama by a landslide!

Agree w/ both of you completely.

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Re: Bush vs Obama: my opinion
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2015, 12:32:07 PM »
Never discount the effect of the drive by media trying to destroy anyone they see as a threat...


The GOP contenders might not get a chance to change America if economic reporting like AP's has it's way...


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The Associated Press seems determined to become even worse at "fact-checking" politicians' statements than Politifact, the current cellar-dwellar in that regard.
At the rate things are going, the wire service, in addition to richly earning its nickname "the Administration's Press" since January 2009, appears to be in line for yet another: "Associated Politifact."

In his "fact check" following last night's Republican debates, the AP's Josh Lederman outrageously argued that Jeb Bush's indisputably true statement about job creation while he was Florida's governor needed to be qualified because of what happened during the next three years under successor Charlie Crist.

Keep in mind that Lederman prefaced his work by pretending that he was compiling "A look at some of the claims in the debate and how they compare with the facts.
" The headline claims to look for "TRUTH VS EXAGGERATION IN GOP PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE."

Here's the Bush statement, and Lederman's response:



Jeb Bush stated three facts:

He was in office for eight years.
While he was in office, 1.3 million jobs were created.

In citing that statistic, Bush used the federal government's Establishment Survey of employers.
For Florida, it shows a pickup of 1.319 million payroll jobs, the difference between the seasonally adjusted 8.034 million figure seen in December 2006 and 6.715 million in December 1998.

The former Sunshine State governor could have instead referred to the Household Survey of residents, which shows a pickup in the number of Floridians employed of 1.518 million (i.e., 200,000 more) during that same period.
Florida's job market and employment situation were "better off" at the end of 2006 compared to the end of 1998, with over 20 percent more people employed and a miniscule unemployment rate of 3.4 percent compared to 4.1 percent.

These are all indisputable facts completely free of any exaggeration, and are in fact arguably understated.

That's it.
Josh Lederman should have stopped there, and in the name of objective fact-checking was really obliged to stop there.

But, apparently, he just couldn't.
Lederman effectively contends that Bush is largely and perhaps fully responsible (there are no qualifiers in his writeup) for the 900,000 Establishment Survey jobs which were lost during the first three-fourths of successor Charlie Crist's one and only (thank goodness) term.

No, Josh.

Charlie Crist did that all by himself, turning his back on the Bush policies that worked almost as soon as he took the gubernatorial oath of office.
Among many things, he broke a no new taxes pledge by signing on to a $2.2 billion tax increase in early 2009, and changed the tone towards business coming out of state government from one of hospitality to indifference, or worse.

Construction employment during Jeb Bush's terms grew from a seasonally adjusted 456,00 in December 1998 to 669,000 in December 2006.
That increase of 213,000 works out to 46.7 percent, which Josh Lederman "cleverly" rounded way up to 50 percent.

He's only been at AP for just over three years, but he appears to have picked up most of the wire service's dishonest tricks.
Crist ruined Florida's business climate so completely that construction employment when he left office in December 2010 was only 338,000, i.e., over 25 percent lower than it was at the beginning of Jeb Bush's two terms.

Lederman also seems to want relatively uninformed readers to believe that Bush and Bush alone created Florida's housing bubble, when we know that the federal government was primarily responsble for that — particularly government-sponored enterprises Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Finally, Lederman seems to think that it's Jeb Bush's fault that many Floridians borrowed heavily against their homes' equity and often frivolously spent the funds.

So not only is Bush responsible for Charlie Crist's disastrous reign as Sunshine State governor, he's also responsible for all the bad financial decisions the state's individuals and families made! How does he sleep at night?
(That's sarcasm, folks.)

As noted earlier, Lederman has demonstrated a level of fact-checking dishonesty which gives Politifact a run for its money.
Several more such reports, and the AP will indeed deserve the nickname "Associated Politifact."



If any owebumaManiaMedia reporter anywhere gets a chance to tear down a GOP candidate, they will jump at it.
Whether or not they have valid sources, methods, or factual reporting matters not to the lib establishment press.

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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tom-blumer/2015/08/07/associated-politifact-aps-lederman-thinks-jeb-bush-responsible-jobs#sthash.CtaQIdQa.dpuf
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