FBI investigation of Hillary’s emails is ‘criminal probe’

[dutch508]

Kind of a dumb post. Of course it's a criminal investigation. LEOs investigate crimes. the FBI doesn't do shit just for the hell of it.

uhnope (3,761 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141168417

FBI investigation of Hillary’s emails is ‘criminal probe’


Source: NY Post

The FBI investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s unsecured e-mail account is not just a fact-finding venture — it’s a criminal probe, sources told The Post on Wednesday.

 

It’s definitely a criminal probe,” said the source. “I’m not sure why they’re not calling it a criminal probe.

I have a guess...

pnwmom (62,091 posts)
1. Not this again. Again, no one has ever provided evidence that Hillary sent CLASSIFIED information on her personal system.

Well, this should be easy then. Turn the server over and we'll move on.

candelista (1,722 posts)
11. A lot of work went into that post! But here's a problem.

The standard classified information nondisclosure agreement, for example, defines classified information as "marked or unmarked classified information," and requires the return of such information to the government at the end of one's employment under threat of possible criminal charges.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/27/opinions/cox-clinton-email-controversy/

The Secretary of State is supposed to be able to recognize unmarked classified information and has a duty not to reveal it.

pnwmom (62,091 posts)
17. And that changes nothing. No one has ever shown, though Rethugs have accused, that she failed to do that.

And this report was written by a right-wing rag, parroting the NYTimes story.

everything to the leftist is a right wing rag.

candelista (1,722 posts)
20. No one has ever "shown"?

You mean "proven in court"? Well, she hasn't had a trial yet. But...

"The inspector general of the intelligence community concluded Mrs. Clinton sent at least four emails that included classified information."

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-says-she-didnt-use-personal-email-account-to-send-or-receive-secret-data-1437870630

That's four out of forty randomly selected emails. Her attorney also has copies.

Ooooo.... sucks to be Hillary.

Star Member Elmer S. E. Dump (2,241 posts)
14. The Inspector General already said they already found 4 emails with classified info.

drip... drip... drip...

 

pnwmom (62,091 posts)
18. And they have already said Hillary is not a target of investigation. They are looking at the emails to double check that none of them might have to be re-classified in light of the FOIA. That's what this is about. Not going after Hillary.

Wrong.

madaboutharry (22,082 posts)
2. The NY Post is a Rupert Murdoch rag.

Star Member murielm99 (14,907 posts)
3. Another convoluted OP from a right-wing source. This needs to end.

Sunlei (10,216 posts)
6. I'm still amazed that out of a million? emails the 'coal rakers' only found a couple to question.

Funny, how people like Romney can outright get rid of his state computers, yet he's considered by some to be presidential material.

former9thward (15,273 posts)
27. No one has looked at "a million".

They did a "limited sample" and looked at a grand total of 40. And found 4 that should have been classified. That is 10%.

Ouch.

Sunlei (10,216 posts)
29. They have had that server from before Bill was President.

SOS emails are archived for public view (use the request form) by our gov. I'm still amazed.

IMO, that server was hacked years ago, as were most gov. computers and some on the dark side have seen 'private' emails they would like to expose in public to trash the Clintons, but can't.

WHAT? You are saying that the server Hillary used as SoS was the same one Bill used as President and they (wTF are they?) have had it from before Bill was president? Are you that stupid?

DCBob (17,763 posts)
16. This is garbage and speculation until it comes from FBI directly.

RussBLib (1,424 posts)
24. I think we will all be better off... when the Clintons have left the political scene.

loveandlight (174 posts)
25. no...

We will be better off when the right-wing Republicans are no longer controlling the media in a relentless lying attack on any Democrat who gains public support. Has Obama done any better than the Clintons? They have attached him relentlessly since he's been in office. Any Democrat worth their salt is going to get this. It not just the Clintons.

Mole trying too hard.

[JohnnyReb]

Hillary is hiding her and Bill's porno.

[BlueStateSaint]

Hillary is hiding her and Bill's porno.

I can do this all day . . .










 

[SVPete]

Mehhhh ... plenty of time for a whitewash with thoroughness varnish that, together with a cooperative MSM, will immunize her campaign from this crime.

[BlueStateSaint]

Mehhhh ... plenty of time for a whitewash with thoroughness varnish that, together with a cooperative MSM, will immunize her campaign from this crime.

Don't bet on it.  Remember who is the head of the Democrat Party now--it ain't the Clintons.  It's Obama, and he hates Bill Clinton (said feeling is mutual).  The Sheep Stream Media will follow whoever the head of the Democrat Party is.  Obama has had the Party for almost seven years.  I very seriously doubt that he wants to turn it back over to the couple who he vanquished in '08.  Valerie Jarrett hates the Clintons.  She's the Power Behind The Curtain, and she doesn't want to give the party back, either.  Who will be the nominee?  I'd say that ol' Slow Joe Biden is going to get it.

[SVPete]

Don't bet on it.  Remember who is the head of the Democrat Party now--it ain't the Clintons.  It's Obama, and he hates Bill Clinton (said feeling is mutual).  The Sheep Stream Media will follow whoever the head of the Democrat Party is.  Obama has had the Party for almost seven years.  I very seriously doubt that he wants to turn it back over to the couple who he vanquished in '08.  Valerie Jarrett hates the Clintons.  She's the Power Behind The Curtain, and she doesn't want to give the party back, either.  Who will be the nominee?  I'd say that ol' Slow Joe Biden is going to get it.

I'd love to "see" Tsaritsa Chill modeling orange pantsuits on the runways of the GreyBar Hotel, so I hope you're right, BSS. I've just found having low expectations results in most surprises being pleasant. Perverting justice seems to be one of BHO's peculiar pleasures, so I'm not sure he would forgo that to gratify whatever hatred he harbors for William the Incompetent and Tsaritsa Chill.

[docstew]

pnwmom (62,091 posts)
1. Not this again. Again, no one has ever provided evidence that Hillary sent CLASSIFIED information on her personal system.

It doesn't even need to be about classified info. All they need to do is show ONE gov't business email that wasn't turned over when she left office and she will be found GUILTY.

Also, I think the other Dems need to find that ambassador she fired in 2011 for using commercial email. He could produce a pretty strong anti-Hillary ad, I would think.

[obumazombie]

It doesn't even need to be about classified info. All they need to do is show ONE gov't business email that wasn't turned over when she left office and she will be found GUILTY.

Also, I think the other Dems need to find that ambassador she fired in 2011 for using commercial email. He could produce a pretty strong anti-Hillary ad, I would think.

Not to mention General Petraeus.
Anyone remember when the libs were calling him "Betray us" ?
He got hammered hard for much less of a transgression than Hitlary, when it came to classified info.

[I_B_Perky]

Criminal probe? Hmmmm... depends on whether the demonazi establishment gets the message to obumbles to cut it out. And if he cares.

Seems to me that obumbles don't care what anyone thinks. Pretty much said so. He is more interested in his legacy. Don't matter. The probe won't be completed until after the next election and the dem MSM will blame the repubs if they bring her up on charges.

I think the real key here is if the MSM is behind Hillary or not. If they are, all bets are off. If they ain't, expect to see her indicted and get a slap on the wrist.

And the dummies say there is infighting within the GOP.

[Ptarmigan]

Criminal probe? Hmmmm... depends on whether the demonazi establishment gets the message to obumbles to cut it out. And if he cares.

Seems to me that obumbles don't care what anyone thinks. Pretty much said so. He is more interested in his legacy. Don't matter. The probe won't be completed until after the next election and the dem MSM will blame the repubs if they bring her up on charges.

I think the real key here is if the MSM is behind Hillary or not. If they are, all bets are off. If they ain't, expect to see her indicted and get a slap on the wrist.

And the dummies say there is infighting within the GOP.

I see way more infighting within the Dems. Shoot, the Clintons detest the Obamas. The Clintons rather be around the Bushes any day.

Don't bet on it.  Remember who is the head of the Democrat Party now--it ain't the Clintons.  It's Obama, and he hates Bill Clinton (said feeling is mutual).  The Sheep Stream Media will follow whoever the head of the Democrat Party is.  Obama has had the Party for almost seven years.  I very seriously doubt that he wants to turn it back over to the couple who he vanquished in '08.  Valerie Jarrett hates the Clintons.  She's the Power Behind The Curtain, and she doesn't want to give the party back, either.  Who will be the nominee?  I'd say that ol' Slow Joe Biden is going to get it.

You are onto something. I would not rule out Joe Biden. I would not rule out Martin O'Malley or Lincoln Chaffee either.

[BlueStateSaint]

You are onto something. I would not rule out Joe Biden. I would not rule out Martin O'Malley or Lincoln Chaffee either.

I would.  They know that Biden will continue their legacy, but fail--because most of the Obama legacy was and is built on the color of his skin.  O'Malley's legacy is the Baltimore riots of earlier this year, and Lincoln Chaffee is as exciting as Palmolive in tepid water.

Biden's their best shot, unless they go full retard Socialist (Sanders).

[obumazombie]

Chrissy had a hissy that anyone dare call Hitlarly a liar...

Republican presidential contender Carly Fiorina has to be Chris Matthews's worst nightmare:
a conservative who punches back hard and doesn't let Chris control the narrative during his interview.

Consider this part of her interview on the August 6 edition of Hardball (video update forthcoming): 

MSNBC
Hardball
August 6, 2015

CHRIS MATTHEWS,
host:
You called Hillary Clinton a liar tonight on a number of occasions.
Do you want to explain why you would use such a almost end-of-conversation term for your possible opponent next year?



CARLY FIORINA:
Because it's true.
You know, one of the things that I think people are tired of in politics and Republicans do it as well is we don't use common-sense language.

We talk in sanitized sound bites.
I don't but most politicians do.

People are tired of sanitized sound bites and bumper sticker rhetoric.
They want to have a conversation about the real issues.

And by any standard common sense measure, Hillary Clinton has lied: about Benghazi, and about her emails, and about her server.

MATTHEWS:
How do you debate someone if it comes to that, you would have three national debates with someone you once again just, this moment, called a liar?
Do you just begin the debate with I don't believe a word you say?

You're a dishonest person?
It seems to me, having worked in Washington all these years.

You say it's just not common sense.
But you really think that's a way to engage in a debate?

To call your opponent a liar?
I'm astounded by that judgment of yours.

FIORINA:
Well, first I was very specific about the subjects about which I think she has lied.
I didn't say she lied about everything.

I was very specific.
Very fact-based, actually.

You are the one who's made a generalized comment now about her.
Not me.

MATTHEWS:
Well, once you call a person, once you call a person--

FIORINA:
Secondly, I will debate her.
Excuse me.

Secondly, I will debate her --

MATTHEWS:
Go through your list.

FIORINA:
I will debate her on the facts and the issues.

MATTHEWS:
Go through your list of where she's lied.

FIORINA:
Benghazi, e-mails, and server.
I will debate her on the issues facing this nation.

I will debate her on her positions.
I will ask her, for example, how she can possibly continue to defend Planned Parenthood.

I will ask her why she continues to say she's  a champion of the middle class while every single proposal she has put forward makes crony capitalism worse and worse and worse, which makes income inequality worse.
I would ask her why she declared victory in Iraq in 2011.

Why she called Bashar al Assad a positive reformer.
Why she thought she could stop Putin's ambition -- a man I have met -- with a gimmicky button.

I will ask her why she got every single foreign policy issue wrong as Secretary of State.
That's how I'll debate her.

On the issues.

MATTHEWS:
Let me put a fine point on that.
Why did she lie, or how did she lie, as you put it, about Benghazi?

Where was her lie?

FIORINA:
Okay.
So it's very clear from all the data, it's very clear from the data, from the emails that she, that the President of the United States, that the Secretary of State, and that the military understood that this was a purposeful terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11 and they understood it while it was going on.

So tell me then, why would you talk about the next day from the State Department, why would you talk about a video?
Why would you explain that this is not America?

Why would you stand over the bodies of the fallen and say it again?
Why not come out and say, this was a purposeful terrorist attack on our embassy.

Four brave Americans were killed and we are going to seek retribution.

MATTHEWS:
Thank you, Carly Fiorina.
I see why you stood out tonight.

Does 1 lie make a person a liar ?
Maybe not, but with Hitlary like with so many libs, it would be far easier to keep track of their truths.
As to my question, from Hitlary's first lie she fell into lying more comfortably than LGBTs in comfortable shoes.


full article...


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ken-shepherd/2015/08/06/carly-fiorina-pushes-back-against-chris-matthews-hardball#sthash.WNBHMasL.dpuf

[Big Dog]

Does 1 lie make a person a liar ?

Yes. Remember the story of MacGregor, "but screw one sheep..."

As to my question, from Hitlary's first lie she fell into lying more comfortably than LGBTs in comfortable shoes.

Stolen for future use. Thanks!