Does the Democrat really care about the Negro?

[dutch508]

guillaumeb (2,731 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027034440

Did Black lives ever matter to the Democrats?


From the article:
"PROTESTS AGAINST racist police murder--from Mike Brown in Missouri a year ago to Sandra Bland in Texas just weeks ago--have helped sound the alarm about the systematic abuse and violence that Black Americans face at the hands of law enforcement on a day-to-day basis. Racism may be one of the most important issues in American society, but it won't take its proper place at center stage in the 2016 election because the Democratic Party candidates put it there. It will be because activists forced them to take it up..

The Democratic Party's problem goes deeper than just being out of touch with the concerns of Black America today. The party has no interest in waging a struggle for racial equality, and it never has.

A look at President Bill Clinton's record on issues that impact Black America reveals just how little the Democrats have done in exchange for the overwhelming support they get from African Americans at every election. In fact, Clinton--hailed as the "first Black president" by novelist Toni Morrison--made everyday life for Blacks significantly worse.

Provisions in the two Clinton-era crime bills--which Hillary Clinton actively campaigned for--put more cops on the street and enforced tougher mandatory sentencing for nonviolent offenses like drug possession, among other things. This kicked the era of mass incarceration, as author Michelle Alexander calls it, into high gear. Larger and larger numbers of poor and working-class people, disproportionately Black and Brown, found themselves under the control of the criminal justice system.

"Democrats began competing with Republicans to prove that they could be even tougher on the dark-skinned pariahs," Alexander wrote in 2010. "In President Bill Clinton's boastful words, 'I can be nicked a lot, but no one can say I'm soft on crime.' The facts bear him out. Clinton's 'tough on crime' policies resulted in the largest increase in federal and state prison inmates of any president in American history."

ONE MORE lesson from history: Neither the New Deal nor the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts were the product of Democratic politicians in power. They were won through masses of people organizing and struggling--demanding change during unemployed marches and sit-downs strikes, at lunch-counter sit-ins and bus boycotts.

Read more:
http://socialistworker.org/2015/07/29/did-black-lives-ever-matter-to-the-democrats

Yeah... that won't be taken kindly by the DUmpmonkiez...

beam me up scottie (30,648 posts)
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Did Black lives ever matter to the Democrats?
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Carry on.

 

cwydro (18,963 posts)
46. Curious that no one mentions Obama.

He IS the first black president.

Has he done anything to prove matters in this regard?

 

sadoldgirl (1,599 posts)
15. As far as I am concerned there is a huge difference between the people and any political party, platform or not.

The parties only listen to the people
when they are forced to do so, in our case right now
when their candidates need the votes. It took a lot of
deaths to allow for unions to exist, the same is true
for the civil rights struggle.

The only reason we hear more about the injustices
committed is the advent of the cell phone and the
internet. Even then we are getting a large propaganda
machine telling us to keep calm and to see any and
every event as an exception from the norm.

Movements have always come from the people, almost
never from the political leaders,jmo.

UTUSN (39,881 posts)
16. I take it the Socialist Worker will be working hard for the Repuke victory. n/t

The Commies better shut the **** up and get in teh back of teh bus with teh Negros and Mexicans.

davidn3600 (4,205 posts)
23. Then go vote for Donald Trump

If you think the Republicans are going to treat you better...then go vote for them. It's not like we have a whole bunch of choices in this country.

I don't know what you want the Democrats to do. First off, we have a lot of political gridlock in this country. So that makes it difficult to get much accomplished. Second, there is no law that can be passed that will end racial prejudice. Is there a law that will make the KKK take off their sheets? Is there a law that will make all people stop judging each other on skin color?

There is no silver bullet here. We can't end racism overnight. This is something that will take generations to fix. That's the reality whether we like to admit it or not. Many, many folks in this country are very stubborn. They get set in their ways, traditions, and beliefs.

And we are not the only country with racism issues. Every country has this problem to some extent.

tularetom (20,930 posts)
26. Black votes sure did

And as long as you darkies stay on teh plantation the Democrats will throw you a bone now and again.

Tarheel_Dem (23,088 posts)
41. "Socalist Worker". 'Nuff said.

 

[Mr Mannn]

One only has to look at the inner city hellholes to see the love democrats have for blacks.

[Zathras]

Does the Democrat really care about the Negro? Only when there's an election and they need their votes to stay where they can line their pockets with the taxpayers hard earned money. But, then again, all politicians are the same in that they only care for the people when they need their votes. The rest of the time they could give a flying **** about the people that put them there.

[obumazombie]

owebuma has only made things worse for the black man.
He made everything worse for everyone, but especially worse for black America.
One reason is, owebuma is not from black America.

[jukin]

The more salient question is "Do blacks care about black lives or lives in general?


The answer is a resounding NO!

The fact that 95% of blacks are stupid enough to support the political party that hates them is just proof of their hatred of blacks and humans.

Where there are whites, specifically conservative whites in political control the black is much safer, lives a more prosperous life, and has longer life spans. Where the black democrat is in political control the black lives a far dangerous life, is poorer and in more despair, and has a far shorter life. This is the new White Man's Burden. Like muslims a 15%+ percentage of blacks means civil society breaks down for all.

[Ptarmigan]

Blacks are just pawns for the Democrats. They do not care for Blacks.

[GOBUCKS]

I think the democrat party is beginning to prefer mexicans.

In the short term at least, they're a lot more docile and civilized than blue ghetto savages, and they breed just as prolifically.

And no matter what the party does, it's guaranteed the black vote anyway.

[zeitgeist]

I think the democrat party is beginning to prefer mexicans.

In the short term at least, they're a lot more docile and civilized than blue ghetto savages, and they breed just as prolifically.

And no matter what the party does, it's guaranteed the black vote anyway.

Blacks are a dying breed. Brown people are the wave of the future.  Landslide Lyndon was right about right with his fifty year projection.  Between the Great Society, Public Education, and Planned Parenthood, the black Americans have been dumb down, de motivated, and aborted into a non existent role today.

[Carl]

Dumbocrats care about hopelessly useless individuals that they can convince will be fed by them.

[USA4ME]

Blacks are a dying breed. Brown people are the wave of the future.  Landslide Lyndon was right about right with his fifty year projection.  Between the Great Society, Public Education, and Planned Parenthood, the black Americans have been dumb down, de motivated, and aborted into a non existent role today.

I do find the discussion by libs of the black/Hispanic coalition as being particularly humorous. Hispanics hate black people, do not identify with them at all, and certainly don't want to be mentioned in the same context with them. The Dem party leaders know it, they just won't say it to their rank and file.

They already got the black votes and they treat them like crap. With the Hispanic vote wrapped up, the blacks become disposable.

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[zeitgeist]

I do find the discussion by libs of the black/Hispanic coalition as being particularly humorous. Hispanics hate black people, do not identify with them at all, and certainly don't want to be mentioned in the same context with them. The Dem party leaders know it, they just won't say it to their rank and file.

They already got the black votes and they treat them like crap. With the Hispanic vote wrapped up, the blacks become disposable.

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Check the link in this thread some of the DU posters would say you  are spot on.  http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=103694.0

[Delmar]

owebuma has only made things worse for the black man.
He made everything worse for everyone, but especially worse for black America.
One reason is, owebuma is not from black America.

Just listen to what authentic black Americans say about Barry when they think nobody is listening:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkRdLEot6zE[/youtube]

[ROCKURWORLD]

Every one knows that the first Black President AKA..The Black Republican President was Abraham Lincoln. I mean that is what the Democrats called him back in the day.

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84026965/1860-08-28/ed-1/seq-3.pdf

The probability is that the. Black Republican candidate will be elected President of the United States. It is a grievous misfortune, and one to bo deeply lamented by every citizen of tho South. But it must remembered, that theSouthern States will have brought this misfortune, grievous as it may be, on themselves, by their own divisions andparty strifes. It was predicted at the
time, and the South forwarned of the impending danger.

In the unfortunate disruption of the Democratic party at Charleston, which I did all that I could do, amidst the hisses
and assaults of an excited community, to prevent, I saw the triumph of the Black Republicans in the ensuing Presidential
election. I stated in a letter written and published immediately afterwards, that the Southern States would be divided into
three bitterly hostile factions, that a black republican- President would be elected,and that these petty disvisions of
tho South would' utterly defeat a union of the South in any scheme of disunion. It is true in religion and in
politics, that the nearer sects and parties approach without assimilating, the more
bitter they are towards each other.

[USA4ME]

Check the link in this thread some of the DU posters would say you  are spot on.  http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=103694.0

Bernie is DOA with blacks.

If they get the Hispanic vote (and they likely will with all the freebies they'll give away), the Dems need the black vote one more election cycle; 2016. After that, they'll have more than enough Hispanic voters to overcome losing every black voter to Republicans.

The only way blacks aren't completely screwed is if the Dems don't secure enough Hispanic voters. But I have no doubt the Dems would love to put blacks on the back burner. They offer nothing but headaches and cost resources they'd rather spend elsewhere.

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[Rebel]

BillZBubb (7,373 posts)
1. I REALLY want to alert on this OP. It is TOTAL BULLSHIT.

I won't because I don't like censorship.

Black lives have mattered to the Democrats since the party saw the light in the '30s. And the Democrats have paid a large political price for backing that up with action. To suggest otherwise is either dishonest and foolish.

 

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Dems need blacks.

Who else will keep PP's abortuariums churning up new money?