candelista (1,683 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141161995
Hillary Clinton Losing Strength in New National Polling
There is actual speculation on the possibility of Biden being the DNC choice...
all the Clintonistas are in denial.
MADem (114,314 posts)
28. I don't care if you support Sanders or Clinton, so long as you understand that TIME wants "Jeb!" on their cover in November of 2016.
Using them to buttress any argument for or against a candidate is a bit like putting your hand in the angry dog's mouth.
TIME is a right wing mag.
redstateblues (1,997 posts)
56. Didn't Bernie call himself a Socialist? Self avowed would be correct. I like Bernie a lot but I wish he hadn't said it. According to the definition he really isn't a socialist. I think it was a mistake. It would not be an asset in the GE.
"I wish Bernie would lie to the people like all the rest of the DEM candidates." [/DU]
Star Member onehandle (44,875 posts)
4. Hillary haters must love the sexist little subsection at this tabloid trash site.
'SEE HILLARY CLINTON'S EVOLUTION IN 20 PHOTOS'
Would a respectable 'news' site do this with Jeb Bush?
tularetom (20,919 posts)
6. The hype is no longer having much effect, people have begun to catch on, I don't get that "strong leader" stuff however. Hell, she doesn't even have the guts to take a position on TPP or the Keystone pipeline. It's only going to get worse for her. She doesn't wear well.
Oooo... Berniebots to the attack!
1StrongBlackMan (21,774 posts)
40. It's NOT about "hav(ing) the guts" ... yeah... it is...
It's about smart campaigning.
Will you be honest enough to acknowledge that the same people DEMANDING that HRC speak to these issues are the same cohort that, also, say they don't believe a word of what she says on issues that she agrees with them on? I wonder why no one believes a word she says?
If, on the campaign trail, she says TPP and XL are pure evil ... (we both know) the cry for the next 15 months will be, "She lying or pandering or its a trick."
If, on the campaign trail, she supports TPP and/or XL ... (we both know) the cry for the next 15 months will be, "See? She is a lap dog of the oligarchs."
So, she takes the reasonable campaign road ... Re: TPP, "Here are my standards for a trade agreement. I will not support a trade agreement that does not meet that standard." Re: XL, "If it is on the table when I become President, I will deal with it then."
And, really ... the only people that give a care about these issues are those removed from concerns about gainful employment, a robust social safety net and dying in the streets.
The truth of the matter is no one trusts Hillary to be truthful on anything.
RoccoR5955 (8,679 posts)
52. So if it is reasonable to stand on the fence about TPP and XL
And Mrs. Clinton is so "smart," why the hell isn't she standing on the fence on EVERYTHING?
zeemike (17,446 posts)
27. "Despite her struggles in general election match-ups"
"Clinton’s position as a front-runner for the Democratic nomination remains solid with 55 percent of Democrats "
So it does not matter to her supporters if she loses to Jeb in the GE as long as she wins the nomination....hmmmm.
okasha (9,070 posts)
89. Except that far more than 55%
of Dems will support her in the general. Most Dems regard the contest between Hillary and Sanders as they seem to themselves. They conduct themselves like friendly rivals, not enemies.
DU is not typical of either the Democratic Party or the general.population. For some here the primaries are a blood feud, For most of us, I think , it's team practice for the real fight.
jalan48 (918 posts)
9. I think many American's wonder why she's even running.
She seems to have zero passion in her speeches and avoids answering questions on big issues like the Keystone pipeline. Evasiveness equates to non-trust with the voters. I would be concerned that she's already run out of steam if I was one of her supporters.
MisterP (17,317 posts)
60. she represents the faction that's fully run the party since ~2002: they want to keep
the party minimally-responsive to the canaille so that the donor gravy train keeps rolling, and that means no supermajorities, no winning with a populist instead of losing with a drip, and blaming critics and Nader every time the sun sends the wrong type of neutrino
MADem (114,314 posts)
30. It's historically Republican TIME magazine....they don't want either Clinton or Sanders to win.
Good post. Sensible. So rare, these days!
And good advice at the finish:
Stop panicking and make sure every Dem voter in the Nation is registered and ready to go.
Amishman (190 posts)
21. looks like Corporate Clinton's teflon coating is wearing thin
The people are tired of being ignored, tired of being lied to, and tired of corporate interests. Hillary is practically the definition of a Washington insider, and her corporate ties are massive and worrying. Its no wonder that her popularity is dropping.
Hillary Clinton: Corporate Whore.
Metric System (3,321 posts)
32. She's being attacked from the left AND the right. No wonder it's impacting her numbers. It's funny
that Sanders supporters think she's the media's favorite candidate considering the kind of reporting that has been done about her, including the bogus NYT hit piece
All Hill has to do to win is come out as a lesbian.
cosmicone (7,694 posts)
39. The Bernie people think he is another Obama
In reality, he is a senator from a tiny state with no executive or foreign policy experience.
The socialist label will be harped upon over and over and over scaring small businesspeople and independents.
Bernie is a good man .. he should remain a senator.
The Communist purge of Russia after Stalin seized power will be nothing like the coming bloodbath on DU once the DNC announces the 'official' candidate.
SoLeftIAmRight (1,007 posts)
44. The hate from the right will be strong against her
the swift boating will be without precedent
I worry about that
I will work hard for a Dem but Sanders 16 sounds good to me
its like a bad Haiku
Sunlei (10,012 posts)
73. come on you cheapass republicans cough up more billions for media campaigns..
fox has to rehire Palin!! she was only a million a year, bring the daughters in too! They hate Mrs. Clinton more than they hate a male, black president
You should have had Mrs. Clinton down to single digits by now! only 49% 'like' her ? and its been 8 years of anti Clinton crap flinging.
Billions of dollars spent to pay hoards of hirelings, thousands of tax free political republican charities and only 49%. Republicans should be ashamed.
Ask The Donald what to do? he's got the top poll rank, hes a wealthy businessman and hasn't spent a dime of koch or charity 'donations'.
Sarah still pisses them off.
