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primitives discuss disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa
« on: July 30, 2015, 10:21:46 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027026587

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Octafish (47,493 posts)    Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:14 AM

Jimmy Hoffa disappeared 40 years ago today

Forty years ago today, former Teamsters President James R. Hoffa went to the Machus Red Fox restaurant on Telegraph (now the site of Andiamo Bloomfield Township), believing he was to have a "peace conference" with mob boss Tony Provenzano.

Hoffa had relinquished the presidency of the Teamsters years earlier after he was convicted of jury tampering, but in the years since his release in 1971, he missed being involved in the union. Was the meeting with “Tony Pro” intended to enable his return to power?

But Provenzano was reportedly in New Jersey that long summer day of July 30, 1975, and the last anyone heard of Hoffa was a phone call he made to his wife, Josephine, at 2:30 p.m. from a nearby pay phone. He told her nobody was there to meet him. The next morning, his car was found abandoned in the parking lot.

Hoffa’s disappearance remains one of the 20th century’s great unsolved mysteries. Many of those with links to the Hoffa case have taken secrets to their graves — Giacomo "Black Jack" Tocco, Leonard Schultz, Vito "Billy Jack" Giacalone, Anthony Giacalone, Tony Zerilli, and so on.

CONTINUED...

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/07/30/jimmy-hoffa-disappeared-years-ago/30871061/

My guess is he was about to testify before the House Select Committee on Assassinations and was silenced, along with other people who were called to testify, including Sam Giancana, Johnny Roselli and George de Mohrenschildt.

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BainsBane (33,038 posts)    Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:15 AM

1. BFEE?

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Octafish (47,493 posts)    Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:21 AM

2. Seeing how George Herbert Walker Bush would soon head CIA, who knows?
 
Poppy Bush told Ed Koch 'nothing I can do' to stop your assassin, yet he ran CIA & Op CONDOR. 

after which an elaborate conspiracy theory

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Dr Hobbitstein (2,002 posts)    Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:25 AM
response to jugs, above

3. Well, duh!
 
Who else would it be?

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Octafish (47,493 posts)    Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:31 AM

4. Did you read the article? It failed to mention Bush or the Mafia-CIA plots to kill Castro.
 
A program entered into by Allen Dulles when Eisenhower was president, yet Corporate Owned News continue to print, falsely, that the assassination program was JFK's idea. So, here's why I would have, from the Water is Wet as all Wetwork Department:

If things had gone according to plan, Nixon would've been president during the Bay of Pigs and would've sent in the Marines, along with the Army, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard, making Allen Dulles and Meyer Lansky and all their rich and corrupt friends very, very happy.

after which another elaborate conspiracy theory

Details on the actual sit-down, which to an amateur democratic detective interested in justice would seem like a lead worth pursuing:

after which a third elaborate conspiracy theory

Yet, for some reason, the CIA continues to the present day to imply that it was Kennedy who did that.

after which a fourth elaborate conspiracy theory

Yet, the Mighty Wurlitzer cough Shenon plays the false tune that Kennedy was the guy who wanted Castro dead.

oops, and now a fifth elaborate conspiracy theory

Why would CIA not want the Warren Commission, and the American public to which it reported, know the truth about its illegal assassination program? Let's ask George H.W. Bush, Dr Hobbitstein. Maybe he knows.

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Dr Hobbitstein (2,002 posts)   Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:38 AM

5. .
 
To quote Sid Dithers:
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Octafish (47,493 posts)    Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:48 AM

6. Ha ha. It is to laugh at GHW Bush who was present in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963.
 
Based on what he told FBI, I think he should be interrogated by a Grand Jury.

Poppy Bush warned FBI -- AFTER -- JFK assassinated.

In the hour of the death of President John F. Kennedy, Texas oilman George Herbert Walker Bush named a suspect to the FBI in a "confidential" phone call. He then added he was heading for Dallas. Skeptics need not take my word for it, that's what Poppy told the FBI:

more conspiracy theory

Here's a transcript of the text:

yet more conspiracy theory

Gee. Why was Poppy Bush in Dallas when JFK was assassinated?

Could it be, he was on official business? I suspect he was on Secret Government business. After all, his eldest son bragged during his Texas Air National Guard and Harvard grad school days that his daddy was CIA.

Here's an FBI document from the same week of the assassination in which FBI Director J Edgar Hoover briefed one "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency." Some strange coincidence there, wot?

yet more.....

Here's a transcript of the above:

yeah, more.....

I do remember that GHWB was head of the CIA when the Church Committee was looking into the CIA assassination programs. He made things all friendly-like and turned what had been a serious hunt for truth under previous DCI Colby into another dog-and-pony show that was big on show and light on facts.

Regarding Dallas: Now I don't know if Poppy was a trigger man, was only there to watch what happened or what just happened to be there. I do know Poppy Bush has never explained these memos. He's never even admitted where he was the day JFK was killed.

Seeing how he would go on to become President, as would his dim son, I believe it's vitally important that we learn the Truth.

Why? The United States and the world haven't been the same since November 22, 1963. And not a single major player in the nation's mass media have stepped up and demanded a real investigation. So, it's up to us, We the People.

What's more, Poppy Bush sheltered mass-murdering jet-bombing terrorists like Luis Posada Carriles.

Don't you think that's worth investigating, Dr Hobbitstein?

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Dr Hobbitstein (2,002 posts)    Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:51 AM

7. I just found this new damning evidence.

We should be investigating this.
 
after which an image of the second George Bush and a cat

Okay, so I read through all of the fishy primitive's conspiracy theories, leaving me with only one unanswered question.

Why would jugs even know Jimmy Hoffa ever existed?  Wouldn't stuff like that be way above her knowledge-level and comprehension?
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Re: primitives discuss disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2015, 10:31:19 AM »
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BainsBane (33,038 posts)    Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:15 AM

1. BFEE?

No, Alex. BFDDs.
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Re: primitives discuss disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2015, 10:32:50 AM »
Only one man knows what really happened to Jimmy Hoffa.

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Re: primitives discuss disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2015, 10:33:23 AM »
If a lunatic like octafish showed up here (there have been some close) they would be excoriated within minutes for their idiocy.

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Re: primitives discuss disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2015, 10:51:30 AM »
No, Alex. BFDDs.

Well, you know, when it comes to "the history of labor unions" and jugs, I can't put the two together; it just doesn't seem a topic that would interest her. 

I always figured she's more into things such as methods of contraception and sex toys.
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Re: primitives discuss disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2015, 10:56:31 AM »
Only one man knows what really happened to Jimmy Hoffa.

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Re: primitives discuss disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2015, 10:57:39 AM »
No, Alex. BFDDs.


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Re: primitives discuss disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2015, 11:24:02 AM »
If a lunatic like octafish showed up here (there have been some close) they would be excoriated within minutes for their idiocy.

     I'm surprised no one ever takes Octafish on. His MO is to put some bullshit on the table, and if you DARE doubt him, he drowns you in blue ink and calls you stupid, part of the conspiracy, or both. Someone could at least say, "gee, Octafish, don't you think you'd be a TAD more credible if every conspiracy you ever cite didn't somehow involve the Bush family?" If the "BFEE" was a tenth as insidious as the stupid bastard Octafish implies, they'd be worth hundreds of billions of dollars and would own most of the state of Texas. Somehow, however, through all of that multi-generational malfeasance and theft, they still have to raise money for elections, and they still compete with another "billionaire." If the "BFEE" was as powerful and shady as Octafish imagines while laying in bed with a jar of cold cream, there'd be chunks of Trump's flesh in some rabid pig's shit, and what the pig wouldn't eat would be buried next to Hoffa. Same goes for Hillary.

     I mean, George Bush is supposed to have orchestrated the assassination of JFK, yet he benefited exactly ZERO from it? He had to wait 25 years to be President, and even then he was a one-termer? I know, Octafish, I know: all part of the plan to lay low and reap the cash. Why, he's got TRILLIONS stashed away in Zurich somewhere! Um, sure...all trillionaires live in a neighborhood in Houston where you can pretty much drive up to his house and maybe even say hello on a lucky day. Every tin-pot dictator and corrupt politician from every country in Africa and Latin America who even took a dime had a luxury estate somewhere in Europe, yet where is the Bush dacha? I know, I know: under someone else's name. Of course.

     But...but...but...PRESCOTT BUSH! NAZIS! Um, OK, Octafish, let's play that little game. Here's a little blue ink for you, too, asshole. Your precious box of kittens named the Kennedys had quite a Nazi-dealing father of their own. Odd how I haven't seen one byte from you about that. Just as odd as the fact that as the NSA has only expanded its operations since January 2009, you STILL post your bullshit about the "BFEE" as though you have no idea who inhabits the White House until 2017. Hint: it's not a Bush.

     I bet even the collection of longhairs and lunatics known as JFK conspiracy theorists are sick of your bullshit. I bet they sit around salivating over a few unearthed pages of a 1950's diary of a mob boss cumare and what it might contain about JFK, and then you come plodding along with some new "fact" about what brand of razor GHW Bush used on 11/22/63, and they roll their eyes. "Just let the lunatic talk, and we can get back to our discussion," they whisper to each other.

     
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