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sarisataka (5,130 posts)

Teen brothers accused of killing parents, 3 siblings in Oklahoma massacre

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Synopsis: It was a mass stabbing.

That means no guns to blame this on so off to Proglodyte trope #2...

Jamastiene (35,525 posts)

2. Because we allow the extreme right to still have power.

That is why it is happening. As long as we allow them to still have power, they will continue to keep a subset of white males in a constant state of anger about the rest of us finally getting some rights. They cannot stand the thought of others having rights. They seem to think the very existence of the GLBT community and women who think for ourselves and other races, most especially AAs, somehow goes against their rights. The only way they want us around is if they can bully us and keep us "in our places." If we have equal rights, they can no longer bully us. Bullying us has been how they "prove their manhood" for ages now. They feel impotent without the ability to get by with the bullying.

Even if these kids hadn't fully bought into that mentality yet, you can bet they had already started thinking along those lines. In the future, all of these shootings and other mass murders will be seen for what they are, the age of the "angry white male" who cannot stand the thought of the rest of us having equal rights.

TBF (28,914 posts)

11. I do think that is the base of it -

and it is further magnified by white males (and sometimes other males) keeping everyone in line with violence. Violence is revered in this country - from corporal punishment to romanticizing the military. In comparison there are many countries in this world where corporal punishment isn't allowed - http://www.endcorporalpunishment.org/ - but in the US children are subjected to violence from the time they are very small. As they get older they are exposed to things like hunting, the military, etc. Churches - especially fundamentalists - affirm this need for control over others (with threats of an eternity in hell if you do not submit to their teachings). And as you say, white males do lead the charge with this although there is a lot of complicity coming from others who back this approach. IMO, it starts from an early age and is very ingrained - with teachers, parents, churches all pushing this mindset. It also has the effect of oppressing people and we see who that benefits (the white males who own most of the assets in our society).

Jamastiene (35,525 posts)

19. Exactly.

Violence is actually seen as less "offensive" than sex even in our movies. It is so ingrained in our culture that is is seen as normal, really. The entire power structure is based on an built on violence. Anytime something happens that someone doesn't like, violence is the first instinct. For most of us, we can control our impulses. Those who have been made to feel entitled have never been forced to learn to control their impulses. That is why they see mass murder as an option. It is happening too frequently nowadays, far too frequently.

Of course, there are a lot of other factors too. We rarely see an AA guy go on a mass murdering rampage. We rarely see women doing it. We rarely see anyone but these right wing "angry white guys" doing it. They seem to have the least amount of impulse control AND own the most weapons. The change needs to come in the entire mentality in that group. It would lessen the instances of these horrors if they were simply taught even a rudimentary basis of impulse control.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027006395

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Synopsis: It was a mass stabbing.

That means no guns to blame this on so off to Proglodyte trope #2...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027006395

     Then young black males must be, like, independents, because they slaughter each other no matter who's in the White House.

     Maybe to stop the urban violence, we needed Perot.

[RayRaytheSBS]

Jamastiene (35,525 posts)

19. Exactly.

Violence is actually seen as less "offensive" than sex even in our movies. It is so ingrained in our culture that is is seen as normal, really. The entire power structure is based on an built on violence. Anytime something happens that someone doesn't like, violence is the first instinct. For most of us, we can control our impulses. Those who have been made to feel entitled have never been forced to learn to control their impulses. That is why they see mass murder as an option. It is happening too frequently nowadays, far too frequently.

Of course, there are a lot of other factors too. We rarely see an AA guy go on a mass murdering rampage. We rarely see women doing it. We rarely see anyone but these right wing "angry white guys" doing it. They seem to have the least amount of impulse control AND own the most weapons. The change needs to come in the entire mentality in that group. It would lessen the instances of these horrors if they were simply taught even a rudimentary basis of impulse control.

So in other words, you think a lack of impulse control lead to the mass murder of people.Being told you were a 'special little snowflake' is what leads to mass murders. Lack of a smack upside the head as a kid when you did something stupid is what leads to mass-murdering.

 Kids are not getting a firm foundation in the real world, and then they get out into it, and are SURPRISED when people don't give two @#$!s about them and their problems. You DUches and your worthless schools are the problem here. Not the tools that the individuals chose to use for their mass murder, but the INDIVIDUALS themselves.

As for your meme that 'only white men do it'. Here's Christopher Dorner for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner_shootings_and_manhunt

As for women:

http://hunteremkay.com/2011/11/famous-women-mass-murderers-in-recent-history/


GFYS DUches.

[Carl]

Jamastiene (35,525 posts)

2. Because we allow the extreme right to still have power.

That is why it is happening. As long as we allow them to still have power, they will continue to keep a subset of white males in a constant state of anger about the rest of us finally getting some rights. They cannot stand the thought of others having rights. They seem to think the very existence of the GLBT community and women who think for ourselves and other races, most especially AAs, somehow goes against their rights. The only way they want us around is if they can bully us and keep us "in our places." If we have equal rights, they can no longer bully us. Bullying us has been how they "prove their manhood" for ages now. They feel impotent without the ability to get by with the bullying.

Even if these kids hadn't fully bought into that mentality yet, you can bet they had already started thinking along those lines. In the future, all of these shootings and other mass murders will be seen for what they are, the age of the "angry white male" who cannot stand the thought of the rest of us having equal rights.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015/07/24/Teen-brothers-accused-of-killing-parents-3-siblings-in-Oklahoma-massacre/7881437718637/

Looks like a meth head but why let that stop you from trying to use what is likely your own morals in a preemptive attempt to silence people.

[SVPete]

As for women:

http://hunteremkay.com/2011/11/famous-women-mass-murderers-in-recent-history/


GFYS DUches.

Not recent, but a rather prolific serial killer: Elizabeth Bathory.