I hate to say, but Trump is starting to look good.

[docstew]

Staying home in my opinion is basically being willing to allow Obama policies continue and be built upon. A moderate republican can be held accountable once in office by a conservative base.

If it's Bush, he'll continue Obama policies. Name me one area where he has said that Obama was wrong.
Economy: Won't lead the charge to remove Obamacare
Immigration: Is for comprehensive immigration reform, and hasn't stated that executive amnesty was wrong and unconstitutional
Education: Is for Common Core

I could go on, but I think you get the point. He is no different that Hillary when it comes to policy. The only difference is the right would lose the ability to complain about the left doing these policies, since his support would be de facto support from the right.

If it's Bush v. Clinton, I most likely will vote third party.

[BlueStateSaint]

I can see that.  Jeb and Christie are both somewhat-fiscally-conservative Democrats trying to run as Conservatives, but on every social or civil liberty issue they are indistinguishable from Hillary.

I think that they're quite a distance apart on gun control.

[JohnnyReb]

Trump says he'll run as a 3rd party candidate if the republicans don't treat him fairly.....if he does, we get Hitlary or some other communist.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-trump-threatens-third-party-run/ar-AAdnC0L?ocid=TSHDHP

[Flufferlie]

Trump says he'll run as a 3rd party candidate if the republicans don't treat him fairly.....if he does, we get Hitlary or some other communist.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-trump-threatens-third-party-run/ar-AAdnC0L?ocid=TSHDHP

Hello Ross Perot 2016.
That's just great. He is friends with the clinton's....wouldn't be surprised if they have paid him to do this like they suspected the clinton's did in '92. Since Perot's office just happened to be directly across the street from Bush's campaign office.

[obumazombie]

Hello Ross Perot 2016.
That's just great. He is friends with the clinton's....wouldn't be surprised if they have paid him to do this like they suspected the clinton's did in '92. Since Perot's office just happened to be directly across the street from Bush's campaign office.

Whereas material remuneration is important to the Donald, in this case it is not as important as his ego, his reputation, his image, his brand, and his pride.
The Clinnochios couldn't pay him an equivalent amount to make up for what he has foregone in this presidential bid.

[Boudicca]

That's the same argument the establishment gives us every two years for Congressional elections. Can you show me how well it's working for us now that the establishment is in the majority?

It's MY vote, and I get to decide who it goes to, if anyone.

AMEN!
Voting Republican has gotten those of us who would like to save this country exactly zero, much like stepping on a pile of dog shit.  The country can't afford 4 more years of business as usual whether it's GRAMNESTY, Bush the Common Core's idot defender a la Gore with Green Power, or some dull witted laggard that will let the press trample all over him and those who support common decency.
Yeah, I know Supreme Court justices, really what else does the RINO wing of the party have to threaten us with?  The RINOs in charge have done nothing channel but channel Chamberlain in order to appease, WHO?  The racist blacks, Hispanics and the useful idiots who will never give the CURRENT Republican party a second look.  Why appease those who can never be appeased enough thanks to their Common Core based Curriculum For REAL Dummies. 
I, for one, would love to see the Donald name his VP candidate and all the members of his Cabinet before the primary season even begins.  He would have quite a few really wonderful VP candidates, NONE of whom are named Rubio/Gang of 14 cheerleader for illegals' "path to citizenship", Bush the beneficiary of family connections, or Senator Lindsey Gramnesty.

There are certain R candidates, but they're not likely to get the nomination because they don't kiss RINO ass nor do they have vast amounts of personal funds to draw upon.  I could vote for Cruz, in fact I'd like to see him or Carly as VP, or Kasich or Perry or perhaps Carson or any combination thereof.  But there are some I'd have to hold my nose to vote for, and I'M TIRED AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY MORE.

[Boudicca]

I remain cautious with Trump.  Yes, he has ruffled a few feathers regarding illegal immigration and has brought the focus needed on the issue but I am not so impressed with his "mightier than thou" attitude regarding his money. Yes he is successful in business, but we also have laws and a Constitution that need to be respected rather than  acting as if everything is a business deal.

If Bush gets the nomination, he will NOT get my vote; I will right in a candidate or vote for 3rd party if one is on the ballot.

I am still a Ted Cruz fan.

Yes, he has ruffled a few feathers regarding illegal immigration and has brought the focus needed on the issue but I am not so impressed with his "mightier than thou" attitude regarding his money.

Hey, at least he's not asking for anything but our vote.  And, it's refreshing to see a candidate not apologize for his fortune.  Why should he?  Heck, why should any of us apologize for what we have in life?  Unless, of course, you're a Bush or Clinton and you've been sliding on the governmental gravy train your entire life.

[Lacarnut]

Trump's message resonates with many democratic and independent voters  IMO. The mainstream politicians in DC are petrified that he will do what he says. That will upset their apple cart. Most do not want  the changes that he proposes. If he gets the nomination he will make mince meat out of the Hildebeast in the debates.

[RobJohnson]

Except of course he didn't really say what the media was reporting.

Exactly.

[BlueStateSaint]

Trump's message resonates with many democratic and independent voters  IMO. The mainstream politicians in DC are petrified that he will do what he says. That will upset their apple cart. Most do not want  the changes that he proposes. If he gets the nomination he will make mince meat out of the Hildebeast in the debates.

While that is most likely true, there's still a whole bunch of the electorate that will vote for anyone with a D after their name.  I tend to think that the more public, unscripted appearances that the Hildebeast gets, the more that the moderates will see her for what she really is--a snide, crass, vulgar, entitled shell of a human being who supposedly 'cares for the middle class (only for their votes)' and can't act civil around those who she wants the votes of.

[DLR Pyro]

My bottom line on trump is can he be any worse than a president hillary?   Or a president jeb?  Or a president obama?

[Eupher]

My bottom line on trump is can he be any worse than a president hillary?   Or a president jeb?  Or a president obama?

I just can't take Trump seriously. Good God, the man played in a reality TV show, for cripes' sake. 

[Flufferlie]

I just can't take Trump seriously. Good God, the man played in a reality TV show, for cripes' sake. 

This.
He won't get the nomination.
He is just here to make noise to disrupt the republican party, split the vote and make what is a difficult election for Hillary much easier for her.
The mainstream media has something to talk about other than the inspectors general asking the DOJ to look into a criminal investigation on Hildebeast.

How convenient.

[Lacarnut]

This.
He won't get the nomination.
He is just here to make noise to disrupt the republican party, split the vote and make what is a difficult election for Hillary much easier for her.
The mainstream media has something to talk about other than the inspectors general asking the DOJ to look into a criminal investigation on Hildebeast.

How convenient.

He will get the nomination. What the voters want desperately is someone that will tell them the truth and is not afraid of the blowback from the RNC, RINO's, the lame stream media and liberal Democrats. They also do not want a career politician like Bush, Huckabuck, Christie, etc. If one of these cowardly Republicans get the nomination, I might just stay home. There is little difference between the two parties and it is past time to inject someone like Trump or Cruz that will not pander to those that are bringing this country down to it's knees. The thought of someone that is a not a lawyer or career politician appeals to many voters. Trump will be our next President and will be our best one since Truman.   

[Flufferlie]

Are we going to ignore that trump has donated to the Clinton foundation and courted them for years?? That in 2007 he said he thought Hillary would make a great president and after that he said that he liked Obama personally?? He is no Cruz. He has supported abortion, and universal healthcare! Now that he senses that there is dissent in the republican ranks he now thinks he can take advantage of it. He has always been an opportunist and he can be just as bad as a lawyer. He is saying what he needs to right now in order to win us over. He is no Reagan, and he certainly is no Cruz. You want to get a liberal nominee, get behind Trump.

[freedumb2003b]

That's the same argument the establishment gives us every two years for Congressional elections. Can you show me how well it's working for us now that the establishment is in the majority?

It's MY vote, and I get to decide who it goes to, if anyone.

YOUR vote went to obozo, twice and will go to hitlery if you don't like our candidate.

We need to get the most Conservative candidate we can, then close ranks no matter WHO we are stuck with.

[Flufferlie]

YOUR vote went to obozo, twice and will go to hitlery if you don't like our candidate.

We need to get the most Conservative candidate we can, then close ranks no matter WHO we are stuck with.

Thank you. Well said.
It's something the democrats do well and republicans can't seem to figure out. Circle the wagon, defend the candidate and close ranks.

"Thou shall not speak ill of any fellow republican" - Ronald Reagan

[Lacarnut]

Are we going to ignore that trump has donated to the Clinton foundation and courted them for years?? That in 2007 he said he thought Hillary would make a great president and after that he said that he liked Obama personally?? He is no Cruz. He has supported abortion, and universal healthcare! Now that he senses that there is dissent in the republican ranks he now thinks he can take advantage of it. He has always been an opportunist and he can be just as bad as a lawyer. He is saying what he needs to right now in order to win us over. He is no Reagan, and he certainly is no Cruz. You want to get a liberal nominee, get behind Trump.

Better get use to it because Trump will be our next President. See, my crystal ball is just as good as yours.

FYI, the Clinton foundation is supposed to be a charitable organization. We find out differently now. Also, daddy Bush and Jr are friends of Bill and have helped the Haiti refugees. So, you are making a big  deal out of nothing. You sound like a liberal media anti-Repub. in that regard.

So far he is doing a good job of winning us over. The debates are coming up and it should be interesting. 

[Flufferlie]

I sound like a liberal media anti-repub? By calling out the liberal history of Donald Trump? I know the Bush's are friends with the Clintons. Wasn't talking about the Bush family. I (never even defended the freaking Bush's) was talking about Trump. It doesn't help Trump to argue with a weak defense like "he contributes to a fake charity but so did Bush and Daddy Bush!" (It doesn't stop there! He also donated to the DNC, Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer) That just proves MY point, that he is an opportunist. Bless his heart, he did make sure to donate "almost exclusively" to republican causes in 2012 when he first eyed the Whitehouse.

 I do not trust him.

He has been for abortion and universal healthcare longer than he has claimed to be a conservative.

"We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing." - Donald Trump

"It makes me cringe to hear people talking about partial birth abortion, but I still believe in choice." - Donald Trump

By the way When did those issues become nothing to us? Are they non-issues now? It bothers me that he supported them, but it's really no big deal? Okay. You think he saw the light? Explain why it took him 7 days to condemn planned parenthood recently. Maybe taking time to gauge the winds? Even Jeb condemned them before he did.

 I find it ironic that some are so quick to call a Bush or a Rubio or WHOEVER ELSE a rino but they quickly get behind Trump when he says all the right words - all the while completely just forgetting what an ass he really is (and I mean a literal liberal jackass in the political sense. He is basically a democrat). Makes us in the conservative wing of the party nothing more than silly school girls easily won over. How can you say you're tired of Rinos when you are so willing to throw your support towards one?

Forget "Rino". I think "Ass in Elephant skin" is more appropriate for Trump.

Me personally - I'm actually tired of Rinos - but I'm not going to be so easily persuaded by a fake, opportunistic,  arrogant, pompous, hypocritical comb over.  If he was actually in it to beat Hillary and his actions matched his words, I would vote for him....but he isn't. He is in it to help her.  He is helping her because contrary to what the actual libturd, anti-repub media will have you believe, this election is not a given for her. She is not liked by America, and the republican vote has to be split for her to win.  That's reality, and the sooner we stop talking about Trump the better. It is no coincidence that we are talking about Donald Trump and not about how low Hillary's poll numbers are and how she can't even secure her place in the Democratic Party.

The libs can keep Trump.
I'm for Cruz.

[Lacarnut]

I sound like a liberal media anti-repub? By calling out the liberal history of Donald Trump? I know the Bush's are friends with the Clintons. Wasn't talking about the Bush family. I (never even defended the freaking Bush's) was talking about Trump. It doesn't help Trump to argue with a weak defense like "he contributes to a fake charity but so did Bush and Daddy Bush!" (It doesn't stop there! He also donated to the DNC, Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer) That just proves MY point, that he is an opportunist. Bless his heart, he did make sure to donate "almost exclusively" to republican causes in 2012 when he first eyed the Whitehouse.

 I do not trust him.

He has been for abortion and universal healthcare longer than he has claimed to be a conservative.

I hate to say it but you do not respect other people's opinions. So, you bitch slap every one of my posts. Two can play that game. It also make you sound like a liberal plant when someone disagrees with you.

Like I said, Trump will be our next President. 










"We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing." - Donald Trump

"It makes me cringe to hear people talking about partial birth abortion, but I still believe in choice." - Donald Trump

By the way When did those issues become nothing to us? Are they non-issues now? It bothers me that he supported them, but it's really no big deal? Okay. You think he saw the light? Explain why it took him 7 days to condemn planned parenthood recently. Maybe taking time to gauge the winds? Even Jeb condemned them before he did.

 I find it ironic that some are so quick to call a Bush or a Rubio or WHOEVER ELSE a rino but they quickly get behind Trump when he says all the right words - all the while completely just forgetting what an ass he really is (and I mean a literal liberal jackass in the political sense. He is basically a democrat). Makes us in the conservative wing of the party nothing more than silly school girls easily won over. How can you say you're tired of Rinos when you are so willing to throw your support towards one?

Forget "Rino". I think "Ass in Elephant skin" is more appropriate for Trump.

Me personally - I'm actually tired of Rinos - but I'm not going to be so easily persuaded by a fake, opportunistic,  arrogant, pompous, hypocritical comb over.  If he was actually in it to beat Hillary and his actions matched his words, I would vote for him....but he isn't. He is in it to help her.  He is helping her because contrary to what the actual libturd, anti-repub media will have you believe, this election is not a given for her. She is not liked by America, and the republican vote has to be split for her to win.  That's reality, and the sooner we stop talking about Trump the better. It is no coincidence that we are talking about Donald Trump and not about how low Hillary's poll numbers are and how she can't even secure her place in the Democratic Party.

The libs can keep Trump.
I'm for Cruz.

[Ptarmigan]

You do realize it is still a year to go before we know who gets nominated. I am not sold on the idea of Donald Trump being nominated. Too early to tell.

Granted, he is rocking the boat right now. It is a good thing he brought illegal immigration to the debate.

Who could be the Republican nomination by 2016? That is anyone's guess. This same goes with the Democrats.

[Lacarnut]

You do realize it is still a year to go before we know who gets nominated. I am not sold on the idea of Donald Trump being nominated. Too early to tell.

Granted, he is rocking the boat right now. It is a good thing he brought illegal immigration to the debate.

Who could be the Republican nomination by 2016? That is anyone's guess. This same goes with the Democrats.

I agree with that. However, it is not helpful when someone distorts a candidate's record. For example, Trump changed his stance on abortion in 2011 from pro-choice to pro-life.

He also hates Obamacare and would provide a 2 tier health care system similar to Canada. Would be a lot better off than what we are getting now. Plus, the chicken shits in the Senate could repeal Obamacare under reconciliation.

[Lacarnut]

Whereas material remuneration is important to the Donald, in this case it is not as important as his ego, his reputation, his image, his brand, and his pride.
The Clinnochios couldn't pay him an equivalent amount to make up for what he has foregone in this presidential bid.

Fluff needs to get off his/her meds

[libertybele]

Are we going to ignore that trump has donated to the Clinton foundation and courted them for years?? That in 2007 he said he thought Hillary would make a great president and after that he said that he liked Obama personally?? He is no Cruz. He has supported abortion, and universal healthcare! Now that he senses that there is dissent in the republican ranks he now thinks he can take advantage of it. He has always been an opportunist and he can be just as bad as a lawyer. He is saying what he needs to right now in order to win us over. He is no Reagan, and he certainly is no Cruz. You want to get a liberal nominee, get behind Trump.

I think however, we need to give Trump credit where credit is due.  He brought focus to illegal immigration when years of Congressional rhetoric was unable to accomplish the same. He recently presented a bill that was passed overwhelmingly in the House.  He took a trip to the border ... Barry himself hasn't even done that.

No he certainly is no Ted Cruz nor for that matter Reagan. Trump is a businessman not a politician.  It is good business to get rid of the enormous economic burden that comes with illegal immigration in order to help this country economically and socially. I would venture to say that if he were to review the current healthcare plan and find that it was not good business and was financially unsustainable; he'd be the first to change it.

As for sensing the dissent amongst the Republicans in Congress; that's pretty much a no-brainer and has been very obvious to most for quite some time.  I'm not sure as to when he stated that Hillary would make a good president ... I at one time thought that Hillary would make a better president than McCain based on her voting record vs. his at the time.  Since then, her actions and lies since she has been Secretary of State have been downright despicable. I'm not so sure what his current viewpoint is on her, though I have not heard the attacks against her that he has voiced against some of the GOPe candidates.

IMHO a whole lot of focus is going on regarding the primaries that are over a year away.  The Iran nuke deal, ISIS, illegal immigration and the attack on Christians and gun rights should be a more important focus right now.

No, I am not a huge Trump fan, but as it stands now, I like him a heck of a lot better than Bush or Christie.

[Lacarnut]

I think however, we need to give Trump credit where credit is due.  He brought focus to illegal immigration when years of Congressional rhetoric was unable to accomplish the same. He recently presented a bill that was passed overwhelmingly in the House.  He took a trip to the border ... Barry himself hasn't even done that.

No he certainly is no Ted Cruz nor for that matter Reagan. Trump is a businessman not a politician.  It is good business to get rid of the enormous economic burden that comes with illegal immigration in order to help this country economically and socially. I would venture to say that if he were to review the current healthcare plan and find that it was not good business and was financially unsustainable; he'd be the first to change it.

As for sensing the dissent amongst the Republicans in Congress; that's pretty much a no-brainer and has been very obvious to most for quite some time.  I'm not sure as to when he stated that Hillary would make a good president ... I at one time thought that Hillary would make a better president than McCain based on her voting record vs. his at the time.  Since then, her actions and lies since she has been Secretary of State have been downright despicable. I'm not so sure what his current viewpoint is on her, though I have not heard the attacks against her that he has voiced against some of the GOPe candidates.

IMHO a whole lot of focus is going on regarding the primaries that are over a year away.  The Iran nuke deal, ISIS, illegal immigration and the attack on Christians and gun rights should be a more important focus right now.

No, I am not a huge Trump fan, but as it stands now, I like him a heck of a lot better than Bush or Christie.

I am for Trump, Curz or Walker. The rest are career politicians that make me want to go puke.