Shameless rape bouncy from ghostsinthemachine

[BannedFromDU]

ghostsinthemachine (462 posts)

My friend got raped on Wednesday
And she refuses to go to a rape crisis counselor or do anything about it.

The story is she and I went to the neighborhood bar, early on Wed to celebrate my birthday. I left after the right wing morans that habituate the bar in the daytime started in with their "Obama this and that" crap, and said "Now I remember why I never go in this bar"....

It is a place she feels safe and goes there often. Sadly she gets pretty hammered and that is what happened this night. She went out the park across the street and one of the denizens of the park raped her. No more details than that and she told me that I know this person and so does she, but did not expose the identity of the person who raped her.

She feels, and told me this repeatedly last night, that it was her fault for getting so drunk. I told her it wasn't, it was the guys fault, not hers but she doesn't believe it.

She is a very delicate woman too, one who has had her share of mental issues and such and I am very afraid for her right now. She acts like it is something she will get over but I know without help it will never ever happen and she will just spin out of control with drink and drugs (Scripts).

So what do I do? I love her a lot, and she is an amazing person but right now I am very afraid for her.

I think a good measure of whether someone is lying or not is if they toss in an unrelated, irrelevant political barb in before getting to the point.

Plenty of DUmmies chiming in that they should leave her friend alone, of course because that "denizen" of the park was probably a non-white person. And that person will rape again, and again, and again, and THERE'S your "rape culture," DUmmies.

Yet you guys think she should keep her mouth shut. 

[Mr Mannn]

First of all, I think it is a lie from the get go.

but lets look at the story. Her friend is not acting like a traumatic event happened.
If she won't name names or prosecute...then it is not rape.
Further is she keeps going to the same bar, it is probably not rape.

lib chicks like to take sex that they later regret and turn it into a fake rape scenario. It sounds to me like the DUmmy's "friend has been turning tricks.

no matter how I look at this i cannot see rape.

[landofconfusion80]

I think a good measure of whether someone is lying or not is if they toss in an unrelated, irrelevant political barb in before getting to the point.

Plenty of DUmmies chiming in that they should leave her friend alone, of course because that "denizen" of the park was probably a non-white person. And that person will rape again, and again, and again, and THERE'S your "rape culture," DUmmies.

Yet you guys think she should keep her mouth shut. 

That might be part of the culture of the park people.  We shouldn't judge their culture, that could lead to people defending themselves and that just wouldn't be proper.

[thundley4]

I left after the right wing morans that habituate the bar in the daytime started in with their "Obama this and that" crap, and said "Now I remember why I never go in this bar"....

It is a place she feels safe and goes there often.

She should have stayed at the bar and had someone call a cab and not try and make some spare money in the park.

[SVPete]

Actually, there are a couple of (or several) seemingly irrelevant factoids tossed into this story:

1.) "the right wing morans";

2.) "that habituate the bar in the daytime".

The "right wing morans" "habituate the bar" "in the daytime"; the supposed rapist is "one of the denizens of the park" "across the street" who is known to gitm and the woman who was supposedly raped.

These seemingly factoids (with or without the misspelling) have no function in the story other than to explain gitm's absence when his friend supposedly was raped. IOW, gitm may be feeling a bit guilty that he wasn't there, and may be trying to project his guilt onto "the right wing morans".

It was gitm's BD being celebrated, so he would have done better to say, "I know a better place, let's go there."

Once there and "the right wing morans" were getting on his nerves, he and his friend should have moved to a far corner of the bar (or to another bar).

I'd say gitm should have persuaded his friend to stop drinking before getting "hammered" ... but what was his friend doing wandering into the park across the street? Walking home? Trying to sober up enough to drive "safely"? My lifestyle doesn't include frequenting (or even occasioning) bars, but I can't imagine anyone capping off an evening out with a visit to the homeless people hanging out and sleeping in a park.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

My guess:

Female friend got drunk and had sex with someone she knew from the bar.

Proglodyte reaction:

* OMG! She was drunk! There's no she could have consented! She may say she wanted it but she was too drunk

* Ooh! This will be a great opportunity for me to look like a caring, nurturing progressive male. I can't wait to tell my friends at DU

* Maybe this will help me get out of the Friend Zone with her!

[AprilRazz]

A caring conservative male or female would have made sure that their friend made it home from the bar safely. Apparently a lib male (I use that term loosely) would just let her fend for herself.

[JohnnyReb]

She got drunk, she got horny, she got herself some.....she sobered up, remembered he was a ugly hippie....has regrets. Covers up for her drunken actions by claiming rape.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

A caring conservative male or female would have made sure that their friend made it home from the bar safely. Apparently a lib male (I use that term loosely) would just let her fend for herself.

Escorting her home would have been the act of patriarchy.

Proglodytism isn't based on principles, it's based on tearing down everything that has come before it so that only it remains.

That means they are as contrarian as possible.

That invariably leads to self-contradiction (which is why they are always so nasty to even their own members).

Case in point:

Traditional morality says: getting inebriated to the point of helplessness around men who are sexually charged is generally a bad idea because they will seek every advantage to have sex even if that includes taking advantage of someone inebriated to the point of helplessness

But the Proglodytes say: that's just victim blaming. You're demanding girls sit home and be good. You have to fight for your right to pa-a-a-ar-TEE!

Girls wakes up the next morning realizing that no amount of toothbrushing will get the taste of 7 blowjobs out of her mouth because she wanted to be the most popular girl with the football team.

Traditional morality says: if you give out 7 blowjobs, that's your right to party. If you're ashamed of yourself don't because a little sobriety suddenly made you realize just how slutty you acted don't blame us, we warned you 3 paragraphs ago.

Proglodytes say: OMFG! She was too drunk to be responsible for her actions. She was gang raped!

It has nothing to do with rape or caring for rape victims.

It is nothing more than claiming they are absolutely, dogmatically right ergo everyone not them is absolutely dogmatically evil.

If the other guy says something they must take a contrary position by rote lest the other guy be permitted to be right...which he can't be since they can only be right and since they can only be right the other is obviously evil.

It's nothing more complicated than self-indulgent egotism and it's been that way since Adam and not-Steve were tossed out of the garden on their asses.

[HawkHogan]

A caring conservative male or female would have made sure that their friend made it home from the bar safely. Apparently a lib male (I use that term loosely) would just let her fend for herself.

Exactly.  What kind of coward leaves their inebriated female friend at a bar by herself on her birthday?

[BannedFromDU]

Exactly.  What kind of coward leaves their inebriated female friend at a bar by herself on her birthday?

     The kind who forgets that little plot hole when concocting bullshit stories.

     I wish the DUmmies had a notes process for their stories, like they have in Hollywood, where people read it first and point out inconsistencies and unlikelihoods. Unfortunately, WE are their notes process, and only once in a while does it appear they learned anything.

     

[Boudicca]

She should have stayed at the bar and had someone call a cab and not try and make some spare money in the park.

She's just pissed off that the guy stiffed her after he, um, you know, stiffed her.

[67 Rover]

ghostsinthemachine  said it himself it was only rape not rape rape.

[jukin]

She got drunk, she got horny, she got herself some.....she sobered up, remembered he was a ugly hippie....has regrets. Covers up for her drunken actions by claiming rape.

My first guess.

My second guess is that it never happened, that the DUchebag has no women friends, and that it is lying about everything.....other than going to a bar. However, it was probably a brown sack on a park bench across the street from a real bar.

[BannedFromDU]

My first guess.

My second guess is that it never happened, that the DUchebag has no women friends, and that it is lying about everything.....other than going to a bar. However, it was probably a brown sack on a park bench across the street from a real bar.

     The whole thing was made up. The DUmmy noticed that the discussion on DU has recently strayed too far from rapey rapey rape rape and she tried to drag it back to last year. These are DUmmies we're talking about: no one got any, unless we're talking about Cheetos and booze. The first tipoff was the gratuitous reference to right wingers, which she needed as a hook to sell the rest of the story. I'm surprised she didn't make reference to all of the Confederate flags that were probably hanging in the bar.