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Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« on: June 25, 2015, 07:52:53 AM »
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Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:38 PM

Star Member Nye Bevan (20,383 posts)

If we were to demolish statues of Robert Lee but not statues of Christopher Columbus
what kind of message would that send to Native Americans?

 :fuelfire:

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Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:16 PM

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8. Columbus is an easy add to the "dump" list.

followed by an idiotic poster

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Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:24 PM

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12. Good point. Columbus should go too. nt

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Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:19 PM

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17. Let's add him too. I'm game.


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Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:20 PM

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18. Columbus has to go, too. nt

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Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:22 PM

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19. I agree, Columbus was bad.

This should be required reading for all liberals.

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Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:10 PM

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30. The message to get sledgehammers? I say smash them alll! Smash all statues of racists!!!

We can blow them all up for all I care, every statue. George Washington? He had slaves, SMASH HIM! Jefferson? Same thing, SMASH HIM!! We can stop forcing young colored children to look up to our racist founders with doe eye innocence; I hated history class because our history is written for white people to feel good about all the terrible genocides and thefts and enslaving and murder and racism done in their name, done to give them a position of prominence. Smash the statues and start telling the truth.

Spoken like a true rioter.

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Thu Jun 25, 2015, 08:06 AM

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40. What about homophobic views?

Or misogynistic views?

You realize we'd end up smashing nearly every statue of a person from before 100 and very nearly 50 years ago right?

Or is it only race that deserves this historical judgment.

You may not value history or apparently even art, but many people do. It requires you to put people into their social context. I'm sure in 100 years from now your children's-children will damn you for doing some kind of intolerable thing like eating meat after we as a society evolve past it. I wonder if you'd be holding a sledgehammer to your own statue then.

You got the fags feeling left out. :(

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Thu Jun 25, 2015, 08:35 AM

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43. No. You think I have to see the world on your terms.

I do not see the world through your lens, it is your job to state your positions and opinions and it is my job to state mine.
That is how I feel personally on a viceral level about the idea of honoring slave holders and rapists and holding them up to my daughters (who would have been prime stock as slaves) as their 'founding fathers' without bothering to tell the truth about slavery and their disgusting deeds. If you feel like writing a disseration on your subject of choice, be my guest. It is not my job to do what you feel like I should do in order to prove to YOU that I have intellectual courage. I am not amused with your bullshit.

Selfish ,miserable scrunt.

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Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:22 PM

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33. Or of any of the Indian fighters immortalized in the west

for that matter, along with renaming Mt. Taylor Turquoise Mountain the way it was in a couple of different native languages and even teaching the whole story in our schools.

I remember touring the Kit Carson House the first time I came out here and I was struck by how primitive it was compared to the way people back home in New England were able to live in the 1880s and opined "no wonder he was such a bastard."

The Indians looked really shocked and then giggled. The docent just looked shocked. Yeah, my big mouth is always getting me into trouble. That day, it got me invited to a feast the following weekend, one I couldn't attend because I was just passing through.

Still, this country began with genocide, much of it passive through diseases the Europeans had no clue how to control, and then warfare, followed by indentured servitude and slavery.

We'll be all grown up when we acknowledge this. We'll also be unique in the world if we do.

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Thu Jun 25, 2015, 07:23 AM

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39. Doing the Chinese Cultural Revolution in the USA, a nation with no culture (almost)

Well, Nye, you know as well as I do that once these things get going, they take on a momentum of their own. The smashing of violins will begin independently of the illogic of the message, i.e. parity between atrocities done to Indigenous Americans vs African Americans. But I hear you.

The Chinese had over one thousand years of culture to purge. In the USA, we have just over 300 years. It won't take long.


 
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Cultural Revolution

The Cultural Revolution, formally the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, was a social-political movement that took place in the People's Republic of China from 1966 until 1976. Set into motion by Mao Zedong, then Chairman of the Communist Party of China, its stated goal was to preserve 'true' Communist ideology in the country by purging remnants of capitalist and traditional elements from Chinese society, and to re-impose Maoist thought as the dominant ideology within the Party. The Revolution marked the return of Mao Zedong to a position of power after the Great Leap Forward. The movement paralyzed China politically and significantly affected the country economically and socially.

- Historical relics

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China's historical sites, artifacts and archives suffered devastating damage as they were thought to be at the root of "old ways of thinking". Many artifacts were seized from private homes and museums and often destroyed on the spot. There are no records of exactly how much was destroyed. Western observers suggest that much of China's thousands of years of history was in effect destroyed or, later, smuggled abroad for sale, during the short ten years of the Cultural Revolution.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Cultural_Revolution#Historical_relics


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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2015, 08:23:48 AM »
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't these cretins bemoaning Taliban and AQ destruction of historical relics and artifacts?
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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2015, 09:17:29 AM »
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't these cretins bemoaning Taliban and AQ destruction of historical relics and artifacts?

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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2015, 09:30:31 AM »
Well we all knew this stuff was coming. It's all but said and done with the flag situation so now they'll push on to something else. I don't like where this slippery slope is heading.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2015, 09:55:22 AM »
Are these the white domestic terrorists the Obama admin keeps warning us about?
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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2015, 10:57:02 AM »
And the democratic party takes another clear and demonstrable step in the totalitarian direction. 
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2015, 11:03:41 AM »
The next thing you will hear is they will call for the levelling of Mount Vernon and Monticello. I'm sick of this B.S. if these F#$ksticks don't like America, They... Can.... LEAVE!

We've put up with a lot from these oxygen-thieving b@stards. And I've reached my limit. As an american who loves my country and what it stands for, I'm done with capitulation to these whiny little worthless scrunts DESTROYING the nation that I call home. 

To all these DUches, you can pound sand for all I care. You are NOT destroying anymore of my country for your Obamafuehrer. GFYS :bigbird: 
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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2015, 11:09:44 AM »
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55. An absolutely horrifying thread.

An American Taliban of the left?

Purge, smash, delete from history anyone not politically acceptable to the so-called sensibilities of a certain faction of the leftwing?

Dangerous stuff ... and a political trap to start demanding a liberal orthodoxy and punish offenders.

You expected different from your ilk?
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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2015, 11:11:26 AM »
Quote from: Fourwinds on June 25, 2015, 09:30:31 AM
Well we all knew this stuff was coming. It's all but said and done with the flag situation so now they'll push on to something else. I don't like where this slippery slope is heading.

At some point, that slippery slope will be greased with the blood of those who resist 'progress'.
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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
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33. Or of any of the Indian fighters immortalized in the west

for that matter, along with renaming Mt. Taylor Turquoise Mountain the way it was in a couple of different native languages and even teaching the whole story in our schools.

I remember touring the Kit Carson House the first time I came out here and I was struck by how primitive it was compared to the way people back home in New England were able to live in the 1880s and opined "no wonder he was such a bastard."

The Indians looked really shocked and then giggled. The docent just looked shocked. Yeah, my big mouth is always getting me into trouble. That day, it got me invited to a feast the following weekend, one I couldn't attend because I was just passing through.

Still, this country began with genocide, much of it passive through diseases the Europeans had no clue how to control, and then warfare, followed by indentured servitude and slavery.

We'll be all grown up when we acknowledge this. We'll also be unique in the world if we do.

Giggling indians and an invite to feast.   :whatever:

Now I have heard everything.

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2015, 02:35:38 PM »
"Those that forget their history are doomed to repeat it." - George Satayana
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2015, 03:36:17 PM »
Why stop at destroying statues of Columbus? Burn and loot every damn city in the US named for him.
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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2015, 03:48:03 PM »
Dummies and ISIS love to destroy historical statues and artifacts. 

If Dummies weren't such pussies and would actual pick up a gun, they could even become the American ISIS.
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2015, 06:15:34 PM »
Wonder if they thought about tearing down everything with Robert Byrd's name attached to it.
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30. The message to get sledgehammers? I say smash them alll! Smash all statues of racists!!!

We can blow them all up for all I care, every statue. George Washington? He had slaves, SMASH HIM! Jefferson? Same thing, SMASH HIM!! We can stop forcing young colored children to look up to our racist founders with doe eye innocence; I hated history class because our history is written for white people to feel good about all the terrible genocides and thefts and enslaving and murder and racism done in their name, done to give them a position of prominence. Smash the statues and start telling the truth.
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8. Columbus is an easy add to the "dump" list.

Democrat Senator and Ku Klux Klansman Robert "Sheets" Byrd should be an easy add to the dump list--but whoever tries to get rid of all the shit named after the old feeble minded son of a bitch has their work cut out for them.
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Academia, science, and technology[edit]

The Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope in Green Bank, West Virginia.
Robert C. Byrd Academic and Technology Center, Marshall University in Huntington, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Academic and Technology Center, Marshall University Graduate College in South Charleston, West Virginia[9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Auditorium, National Conservation Training Center in Shepherdstown, West Virginia[9][10][11]
Robert C. Byrd Biotechnology Science Center, Marshall University in Huntington, West Virginia[6][9][10][12][13]
Robert C. Byrd Cancer Research Laboratory, West Virginia University in Morgantown, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Center for Legislative Studies, Shepherd University in Shepherdstown, West Virginia[9][10][14]
Robert C. Byrd Center for Pharmacy Education, University of Charleston in Charleston, West Virginia[9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Center for Rural Health, Marshall University in Huntington, West Virginia[6][9]
Robert C. Byrd Clinical Teaching Center, Charleston Area Medical Center Memorial Hospital in Charleston, West Virginia[9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope, Green Bank, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Hardwood Technologies Center, Princeton, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Health and Wellness Center, Bethany College in Bethany, West Virginia[9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center, West Virginia University in Morgantown, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center Charleston Division, Charleston, West Virginia[9]
Robert C. Byrd High School, Clarksburg, West Virginia[6][9][15]
Robert C. Byrd Institute for Advanced Flexible Manufacturing (RCBI) Bridgeport Manufacturing Technology Center, Bridgeport, West Virginia[9][10][16]
RCBI Charleston Manufacturing Technology Center, South Charleston, West Virginia[6][9][10][16]
RCBI Huntington Manufacturing Technology Center, Huntington, West Virginia[9][10][16]
RCBI Rocket Center Manufacturing Technology Center, Rocket Center, West Virginia[9][10][16][17]
Robert C. Byrd Institute for Composites Technology and Training Center, Bridgeport, West Virginia[9]
Robert C. Byrd Library, Wheeling, West Virginia[9]
Robert C. Byrd Library and Robert C. Byrd Learning Resource Center, University of Charleston in Beckley[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Life Long Learning Center, Eastern West Virginia Community and Technical College in Moorefield, West Virginia[9]
Robert C. Byrd Life Long Learning Center, West Virginia University in Morgantown, West Virginia[10]
Robert C. Byrd Metals Fabrication Center, Rocket Center, West Virginia[9][10][17]
Robert C. Byrd National Aerospace Education Center, Bridgeport, West Virginia (affiliated with Fairmont State University)[9][10]
Robert C. Byrd National Technology Transfer Center, Wheeling Jesuit University in Wheeling, West Virginia[6][9][18]
Robert C. Byrd Regional Training Institute, Camp Dawson near Kingwood, West Virginia[9]
Robert C. Byrd Science and Technology Center, Shepherd University in Shepherdstown, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Technology Center, Alderson–Broaddus College in Philippi, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd United Technical Center[6][10]
Commerce[edit]
Robert C. Byrd Hilltop Office Complex, Rocket Center, West Virginia[6][9][10][17]
Robert C. Byrd Industrial Park, Moorefield, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Community[edit]
Robert C. Byrd Community Center, Pine Grove, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Community Center, Sugar Grove, West Virginia[6][10]
Government[edit]
Robert C. Byrd Rooms, Office of the West Virginia Senate Minority Leader, West Virginia State Capitol in Charleston, West Virginia[9]
Robert C. Byrd United States Courthouse and Federal Building, Beckley, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd United States Courthouse and Federal Building, Charleston, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Federal Correctional Institution, Hazelton, West Virginia[6][10]
Healthcare[edit]
Robert C. Byrd Clinic, West Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine in Lewisburg, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Clinical Addition to Veteran's Hospital, Huntington, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Recreation and tourism[edit]
Robert C. Byrd Addition to the Lodge at Oglebay Park, Wheeling, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Conference Center (also known as the Robert C. Byrd Center for Hospitality and Tourism), Davis & Elkins College in Elkins, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Visitor Center, Harpers Ferry National Historical Park in Harpers Ferry, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Transportation[edit]

The Robert C. Byrd Bridge crossing the Ohio River between Huntington, West Virginia and Chesapeake, Ohio.
Robert C. Byrd Appalachian Highway System, Appalachian Development Highway System in West Virginia[9][10][19]
Robert C. Byrd Bridge, crosses the Ohio River between Huntington, West Virginia and Chesapeake, Ohio[6][9][10][19]
Robert C. Byrd Bridge, Ohio County, West Virginia[19]
Robert C. Byrd Drive, West Virginia Routes 16 and 97 between Beckley and Sophia, West Virginia[6][10]
Robert C. Byrd Expressway, United States Route 22 near Weirton, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Freeway, United States Route 119 between Williamson and Charleston, West Virginia (also known as Corridor G)[6][9]
Robert C. Byrd Highway, United States Route 48 between Weston, West Virginia and the Virginia state line near Wardensville, West Virginia (also known as Corridor H)[6][19]
Robert C. Byrd Interchange on Interstate 77[9]
Robert C. Byrd Interchange on United States Route 19, Birch River, West Virginia[9][19]
Robert C. Byrd Intermodal Transportation Center, Wheeling, West Virginia[9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Locks and Dam, Ohio River in Gallipolis Ferry, West Virginia[6][9][10]
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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2015, 07:55:41 PM »
Quote from: HawkHogan on June 25, 2015, 03:48:03 PM
Dummies and ISIS love to destroy historical statues and artifacts. 

If Dummies weren't such pussies and would actual pick up a gun, they could even become the American ISIS.

I can hear the tactical assault walkers, Chobham armoured hover rounds and fully weaponized Wal-Mart motorcarts winding up now.....

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I remember touring the Kit Carson House the first time I came out here and I was struck by how primitive it was compared to the way people back home in New England were able to live in the 1880s and opined "no wonder he was such a bastard."

What? 

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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2015, 09:19:41 PM »
Quote from: HawkHogan on June 25, 2015, 03:48:03 PM
Dummies/Leftists/Liberals/Libtards and ISIS love to destroy historical statues and artifacts. 

If Dummies/Leftists/Liberals/Libtards weren't such pussies and would actual pick up a gun, they could even become the American ISIS.

The left is no different from Jihadists. We may as well call leftists Jihadists.
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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2015, 08:14:25 AM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on June 25, 2015, 09:19:41 PM
The left is no different from Jihadists. We may as well call leftists Jihadists.

There's a difference between the DUches and jihadists. A jihadist at least has the BALLS to stand for what they believe in. A DUche would cower in fear rather than actually do SOMETHING. Unless they have the numbers in their advantage, then they would be doing their version of 'kristallnacht'.
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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2015, 08:20:13 AM »
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There's a difference between the DUches and jihadists. A jihadist at least has the BALLS to stand for what they believe in. A DUche would cower in fear rather than actually do SOMETHING. Unless they have the numbers in their advantage, then they would be doing their version of 'kristallnacht'.

And that, my friend, is what the 2nd Amendment can be used to protect against.
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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2015, 08:23:14 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on June 26, 2015, 08:20:13 AM
And that, my friend, is what the 2nd Amendment can be used to protect against.

Hi5, truer words have never been spoken in regards to the DUches.
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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2015, 08:24:04 AM »
Quote from: RayRaytheSBS on June 26, 2015, 08:23:14 AM
Hi5, truer words have never been spoken in regards to the DUches.

H5 back at you!
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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2015, 09:50:42 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on June 26, 2015, 08:20:13 AM
And that, my friend, is what the 2nd Amendment can be used to protect against.

And why they hate it. :cheersmate:
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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2015, 01:11:42 PM »
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"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don't sit looking at it - walk!" -Ayn Rand
 
"Those that trust God with their safety must yet use proper means for their safety, otherwise they tempt Him, and do not trust Him.  God will provide, but so must we also." - Matthew Henry, Commentary on 2 Chronicles 32, from Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible

"These anti-gun fools are more dangerous to liberty than street criminals or foreign spies."--Theodore Haas, Dachau Survivor

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Re: Primitives now want to destroy Columbus statues.
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2015, 03:30:52 PM »
Where were you during the great historical artifact purge of 2015?
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