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Hillary Clinton is going to lose
« on: June 23, 2015, 08:07:41 AM »
It's a Salon.com article.  The full title is below:

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Hillary Clinton is going to lose: She doesn’t even see the frustrated progressive wave that will nominate Bernie Sanders

Clinton's positioning on TPP is way too cute. When it passes with Dems' implicit support, grass roots will explode

Bill Curry     Monday, Jun 22, 2015 04:55 PM EDT

Hillary Clinton went to New York’s Roosevelt Island earlier this month to relaunch her campaign for president. Her first kickoff fell flat, perhaps because she herself didn’t attend, opting instead to send a video greeting card in which people she still insists on calling ‘everyday Americans’ shared their life plans. (To go to school! Plant a garden! Get married!) She came on at the end to say she had plans of her own that include being president, and that she does it all for us.



She delivered a 45-minute speech that told us little more than that three-minute video. She still won’t say where she’d peg the minimum wage or if she’d ever rein in the surveillance state or get us out of Iraq. Most amazing is how she finesses the Trans Pacific Partnership that President Obama so covets. It’s the biggest deal in the history of commerce; its investor tribunals would substitute corporate for democratic will here and around the world — and Clinton hasn’t said boo about it. Some ask how she gets away with it. I’m not so sure she does.

Politicians have always ducked tough issues, but today’s Democrats are the worst. When the TPP came before the House, enough Democrats played it cute to leave the outcome in doubt till the very end. Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi didn’t tip her hand until just before the vote. Many who voted no never said exactly why. Some want to curb currency manipulation. Some oppose the fast track process, others the secret tribunals or the intellectual property rules that actually restrain competition. If the caucus as a whole has a bottom line, no one knows what it is.

The TPP is a mystery because our leaders wish it so. We don’t know what’s in it because our president won’t let us read it, and not out of respect for precedent or protocol. George W. Bush showed us drafts of his trade agreements. We’re negotiating one right now with Europe, and Europeans get to read those drafts. If a comma gets cut from the TPP, hundreds of corporate lobbyists know in an instant. The only people who don’t know are the American people — and that’s only because our president thinks our knowing would ruin everything.

The process by which Congress considers the TPP is confusing in itself. The pact is still being negotiated by the 12 nations who’d be parties to it. The fight now is over legislation meant to grease the skids for it when it finally arrives. At issue are trade promotion authority or TPA — the ‘fast track’ by which Congress vows not to amend or filibuster a trade agreement it hasn’t even read– and trade adjustment assistance or TAA, which gives benefits (money, health insurance, job training) to workers who can prove to the federal government that they lost their jobs due to trade. Signed into law by John Kennedy, expanded by Bill Clinton and extended by George W. Bush, the half-century old program is set to expire in September.  The bills now before Congress would keep it alive another six years.

Go to the link to read the rest:  http://www.salon.com/2015/06/22/hillary_clinton_is_going_to_lose_she_doesnt_even_see_the_frustrated_progressive_wave_that_will_nominate_bernie_sanders/

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Re: Hillary Clinton is going to lose
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2015, 08:14:26 AM »
Blue-on-blue warfare.  I like it!

I do too.

That's why it's important to bolster the Hillaryite forces on Skins's island so they don't get knocked off by the Barneyites.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is going to lose
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2015, 09:35:57 AM »
....and when she loses....Bill wants a year on the Space Station.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is going to lose
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2015, 09:53:34 AM »
@ least with Bernie Sanders, we'd get some kind of debate; with Hillary, she may resort to, oh, they're picking on me because I'm female...that's one way she could avoid discussing issues.

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Re: Hillary Clinton is going to lose
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2015, 09:56:26 AM »
@ least with Bernie Sanders, we'd get some kind of debate; with Hillary, she may resort to, oh, they're picking on me because I'm female...that's one way she could avoid discussing issues.
Then that should mean she's not qualified for the job.....not that I think she is to start with.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is going to lose
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2015, 02:19:28 PM »
Now, ain't this interesting . . .

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Hillary, pay your interns: Column

Carolyn Osorio 3:05 p.m. EDT June 23, 2015

If you want to inspire Millennials, don't let us boomerang. Save us from the unemployment.

As the high school girl who slept in a Hillary for President T-shirt for most of 2007, cried when she conceded to Barack Obama, railed at Congress during the Benghazi hearings and was an early follower of Texts from Hillary, I took heart from the 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign had created.

When Hillary announced her second run for the White House, I felt my passion for politics reignite. I quickly applied for and was offered a position as a Hillary for America fellow to work on the campaign. I couldn't have been more excited until I was told I'd have to move to Nevada and work full time on my own dime.

I couldn't believe my ears. I did not apply as a routine volunteer but as a fellow. Its application process with an elaborate screening and interview process was now revealed to be an ugly lie. If Hillary hopes to inspire young people, to prove she understands our interests she should offer substance to earn our votes.

Cheap, cheap

The campaign's "cheapness" is being lauded as a successful step away from her failure in 2008. Voters are evidently supposed to feel pleased with Hillary's miserly commercial flights (in first class) and economical Amtrak trips while discounting her unpaid staff's out-of-pocket expenses as simply smart business.

I had hoped a trailblazer would be more willing to break the mold of indentured servitude that haunts my generation. Finding out Hillary perpetuates the exploitation known as unpaid internships was like discovering that Santa wasn't real.

The rest is here . . . http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/06/23/hillary-clinton-unpaid-intern-millenials-column/28936259/

Seeing that it was published less than 15 minutes ago, and Drudge had it less than 10 minutes after it came out on USA Today's website, this response thing is pretty good! :whistling: :fuelfire:
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Re: Hillary Clinton is going to lose
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2015, 03:16:17 PM »
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  Finding out Hillary perpetuates the exploitation known as unpaid internships was like discovering that Santa wasn't real. 

Oh yes, they all still believe; somewhere, somehow, there is a money tree just waiting to be picked and then sent on to the freeloaders.

 Hillary is a 1%'er   :rotf:
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Re: Hillary Clinton is going to lose
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2015, 08:50:27 PM »
That would be nice, but like paychecks and military awards, I will believe it when it actually happens.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is going to lose
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2015, 09:07:27 PM »
I do not see Hillary Clinton running in 2016. Her chance was 2008.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is going to lose
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2015, 09:23:53 PM »
I do not see Hillary Clinton running in 2016. Her chance was 2008.

she just pissed a bunch of black people off by telling them their lives are worth the same as white people.

http://twitchy.com/2015/06/23/racist-hillary-clinton-commits-unforgivable-outrage-saying-all-lives-matter-in-a-black-church/

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Re: Hillary Clinton is going to lose
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2015, 10:16:42 PM »
The problem with Hillary is they should have never put her up for the Presidency in the first place. The woman is the very caricature of a career politician. Speaking to southerners? Put on a southern accent! Nothing to hide? Delete stuff!  Speak out against the Confederate Battle Flag? Campaign buttons designed as Confederate flags! Speaking about supporting the middle class? Hasn't had to drive a car in 20 years! Broke? Millions in the bank and hundreds of thousands to speak!

I mean, it's like this woman thinks only the D.C. elite has access to the internet or something. Probably wishful thinking on her part.