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Ken Burch (36,482 posts)

Let's get real about HRC and bigotry. [View all]
 
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in 1969, she wrote a senior thesis attacking Saul Alinsky for organizing the powerless(many of them African-American)to stand up as communities and defend their rights-she wanted them to just shut up, give up, cut their afros off, wear suits and settle for nothing more than campaigning for the Democratic ticket-in other words, she wanted the powerless to give up, since that's what abandoning community organizing means, folks). She offered no worthwhile alternative tactics that would have been any more effective.

In the 1980's, she helped found and build the Democratic Leadership Council, a group who pushed the Democratic Party to leave African-Americans, Latino-Americans, Native Americans, the poor, all but the most timid and corporate-subservient feminists-in addition to labor, of course-totally out in the cold, to stop campaigning against bigotry and oppression, to run anti-Rainbow, Nixon-style "Law and Order" campaigns(with unquestining support of the death penalty and police brutality, featuring bigoted white cops posing behind the"Democratic" candidates to appease uptight white southerners and white suburbanites in the Midwest, Northeast and Mountain West by promising to distrust and fear everyone who wasn't like them, and to look the other way while corporate power economically punished most of the Rainbow with outsourcing, mass layoffs and wage and benefit cuts.

In the Senate from 2001 to 2008, she spent six years saying little about sexism, nothing about racism, nothing about homophobia(not even condemning DADT and DOMA, despite the fact that she no longer had any political need to defend those acts of capitulation to bigotry)nothing about poverty(even as a senator from a state where she'd face no political blowback for doing so)and nothing about police brutality or the racist and classist drug war.

In 2008, she ran as the white backlash candidate against Barack Obama, using racial code phrases like "I'm one of you" in heavily white states and saying nothing when her supporters started the racist "birther" smear that the Republicans keep alive to this day.

Sorry, but a handful of meaningless applause lines in her speeches about fighting bigotry, timidly challenging police genocide against poc, and calling in the mildest terms for prison reform(after decades in which she pushed the Democratic Party to appeal to the worst in people, does not make HRC the anti-bigotry, anti-oppression candidate.

And the Hillions proceed to lose what's left of their ****ing minds:

Bluenorthwest (36,292 posts)

14. Straight white men need to end this crap, yes Ken I mean you. First off, have you read her

thesis on Alinsky? It sure is not what you claim it is. At all. Saul offered her a job as a result of that paper, Ken.
 When you do shit like that, Ken, the insult is to me, the reader who knows better. Do you think I'm an idiot to be preached at and who knows nothing? Why do you appoint yourself to do this? What are you qualifications? I sure don't see you stand up for minorities on DU, you are in the threads about the Pope cheering for the Pope.
 You were very dismissive of minority people who expressed concerns about Liz Warren's 30 years of Republican loyalty, her lack of any actions to mitigate the evil she helped deliver to us under her hero, Ronald Reagan. So today, you want to talk about Hillary when she was too young to vote but you were dismissive of questions about Warren when she was in her 30's and 40's, a rich woman voting for vicious racists one after the other, supporting genocidal policies toward gay people. How does that work? How is one thing so important you make 'informative' OP's but the other so unimportant that even to ask about it is shouted down?
 Here is your Warren thread. Here's the line that made me remember it, so McCarthyist it stuck in the head:
 "Whatever the motivation of those who have raised the question, we probably should try to find out."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251367346


 This sort of bullshit is bullshit, when it is dealt in double standards it is worse than bullshit, because double standards are the building blocks of bigotry.

Apparently BNW is gay or something. Has anyone seen it mention this in the past?

Ken Burch (36,482 posts)

60. That op was aimed at the HRC supporters who were attacking Warren on side issues.

It wasn't aimed at the LGBTQ community at all.

And HRC is not the only Democrat who can win, nor better than Bernie on any anti-oppression issues.

Why throw in with her when she's only been on your side when the battle was already over?

No candidate that didn't back same-sex marriage until 2013(when backing it no longer counted for anything or neant anything) has any right to call herself gay-friendly...and certainly no right to claim to be any more progressive on anti-oppression issues than any other Dem.

zeemike (17,086 posts)

91. You are a straight white man Ken Burch, so shit down and shut up.

I think that was the message...your kind no longer has the right to express opinions.
Equality does not include you...we are all equal but some are more equal than others.

OKNancy (35,851 posts)

22. and here we have it. a fact free, over the top hit-piece opinion

Anyone who starts out with the Goldwater girl crap, I could never take them seriously for anything they write.
It's lazy thinking.
The voting age then was 21. By the time she was voting age, she was a committed liberal Democrat.

Hell, I used to be religious when I was a teenager.

LynneSin (93,346 posts)

27. I find it offensive that you are trying to call Hillary Clinton a racist

Based on what she did decades ago?

On assumptions that she was trying to be the 'White' candidate against Obama?

This is just beyond offensive. People use to comment that her husband one was of the first 'Black' Presidents because of the hard work he did to help support minorities in this country and the support and approval he received from the African American community.

Although I find that ideology-wise I probably closer align to Bernie Sanders I know why I will never support him until after the primaries. It's because I really do not want to associate myself with posters like you who do nothing but post the most hateful shit I see again and again and again. If this is how you think you are going to defeat Hillary Clinton then maybe your candidate has nothing. And it is damn shameful.

Think about this, the people here at DU have made their choice on their candidates or they purposively stay undecided because of assinine bullshit like this post. Because everytime I see threads like this it really makes me want to support Hillary Clinton because first off, end the end I will support any Democratic Candidate in the fall - I have said that over and over again. But secondly because I don't see this sort of hateful shit being posted by Clinton supporters.

This is just beyond low.

You do know where Hillary was campaigning on the day of the shooting and who was campaigning with that day. And you have the audacity to post crap like this.

Really, is your candidate so pathetic this is all you can find - bullshit about Hillary?

And btw, I do know there are decent Sanders candidates out there, perhaps you should try to avoid threads like this. It really doesn't make your team look like one us undecideds want to support.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026882229

[JohnnyReb]

I bet Hillary has used the infamous "N"-word more than I have.

[obumazombie]

I bet Hillary has used the infamous "N"-word more than I have.

No doubt.
If they had White house tapes like Nixon did, you would probably find it several times on every tape

zeemike (17,086 posts)

91. You are a straight white man Ken Burch, so shit down and shut up.

I think that was the message...your kind no longer has the right to express opinions.
Equality does not include you...we are all equal but some are more equal than others.

Maybe zeemike wants Ken Burch to shut up while wiping up.

[Carl]

Does Shillary self identify as black or queer like sheshe and screeching gay randy do?

[Mr Mannn]

Well the gay mafia has their panties in a twist.

Of course of Ken was really a straight white MAN he would bull through and not let a bunch of pansies deny his free speech rights.

[SVPete]

 

They'd probably tolerate me better than one of "their own" who isn't toeing the party line! Not that I plan to test my guess.

[Karin]

Hey DUmmies.  When Hillary was first lady of Arkansas, they flew a confederate flag. 

[thundley4]

Hey DUmmies.  When Hillary was first lady of Arkansas, they flew a confederate flag.

Her and Bill celebrated it.

[98ZJUSMC]

zeemike (17,086 posts)

91. You are a straight white man Ken Burch, so shit down and shut up.

I think that was the message...your kind no longer has the right to express opinions.
Equality does not include you...we are all equal but some are more equal than others.

The ghey dogs are looking at you.  Do you even know where you are?

[obumazombie]

The high school my son and daughter went to have announced they will be changing their school mascot.
It will no longer be the southern gentleman know as "Rebel".
They are also taking down the dixie flag which also represented the school for decades.
I am in a mild state of shock.
It's amazing the empty gestures that libs can force Americans to perform.

[JohnnyReb]

The high school my son and daughter went to have announced they will be changing their school mascot.
It will no longer be the southern gentleman know as "Rebel".
They are also taking down the dixie flag which also represented the school for decades.
I am in a mild state of shock.
It's amazing the empty gestures that libs can force Americans to perform.

So, what will replace those things? A rainbow flag and a dude in a miniskirt?

[wasp69]

It's amazing the empty gestures that libs can force Americans to perform.

"Tradition usually rests upon something which men did know; history is often the manufacture of the mere liar."
Jefferson Davis

[JohnnyReb]

Atomic Farts: beer and pickled eggs.

[RayRaytheSBS]

So, what will replace those things? A rainbow flag and a dude in a miniskirt?

Bradley Manning? I thought he was still in Leavenworth?