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Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« on: June 21, 2015, 10:32:38 PM »
Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
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Gun grabbers are coming out of wood works in light of Charleston.  :mental:

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Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
 Step 2: ban the import of handguns

Step 3: mandatory registry for existing handguns

Step 4: imprint handgun bullet casings with an ID number traceable to the box

Step 5: mandatory ID for sale of handgun ammunition

Step 6: no tax on handgun ammunition sold and fired at a licensed range; $20 a box tax on handgun ammunition taken off the range

Step 7: tax proceeds from the sale of ammunition will be used for handgun buybacks

Step 8: handguns surrendered during buybacks will be destroyed

Step 9: if you're caught with a handgun or ammunition that isn't registered to you, it's a mandatory felony

How about we ban libtards?

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Gregorian (20,492 posts)
1. Prohibition doesn't work.

A healthy society is one where people can look at things like alcohol without killing themselves with it.

It's like trickle down.

This shit only works from the bottom up.


But having said that, in situations like the one we're in, alternatives to the best way may be needed. I honestly think there's no going back now. And I'm not even going to repeat myself because my answer to most of our problems comes back to the one thing I mention most. Rats in a cage.

Also, if I were faced with fixing the problem, I'd start with the things Bernie Sanders is talking about:
Income equality
Free tuition
Health care for all

This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum.

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34. I do not see the ideas proposed in the OP as "prohibition".

Very strict regulation, yes.

But one can still own and use handguns with the proposal.

Let's not straw man this one.

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2. Second Amendment

The courts aren't braindead. That is constructively a ban on guns and a violation of the 2A.

Public opposition to handguns ban at record high 74%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/165563/remains-divided-passing-stricter-gun-laws.aspx

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27. How many new prisons are you prepared to build for inner city youth?

Step 9 is going to demand you build a lot more...and not just for inner city youth though since that is where most of the gun violence occurs, you likely will be filling them up and need more.
DUmmies want Gulags.  :mental:
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2015, 10:41:27 PM »
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2. Second Amendment

The courts aren't braindead. That is constructively a ban on guns and a violation of the 2A.


Public opposition to handguns ban at record high 74%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/165563/remains-divided-passing-stricter-gun-laws.aspx
The 8k post count is his only protection from a Pizza.

That said. the Democrat tyrants never had any intentions to govern with the consent of the governed.
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2015, 10:47:08 PM »
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Step 9: if you're caught with a handgun or ammunition that isn't registered to you, it's a mandatory felony

How about this?  If you commit any crime involving any gun, even stealing the gun, it's a mandatory federal felony and 20 years in the federal pen?

That would be turn out to be considered racist after a shitload more blacks were sentenced to prison.
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2015, 10:48:53 PM »
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    Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
     Step 2: ban the import of handguns

    Step 3: mandatory registry for existing handguns

    Step 4: imprint handgun bullet casings with an ID number traceable to the box

    Step 5: mandatory ID for sale of handgun ammunition

    Step 6: no tax on handgun ammunition sold and fired at a licensed range; $20 a box tax on handgun ammunition taken off the range

    Step 7: tax proceeds from the sale of ammunition will be used for handgun buybacks

    Step 8: handguns surrendered during buybacks will be destroyed

    Step 9: if you're caught with a handgun or ammunition that isn't registered to you, it's a mandatory felony


I think your side should run on that platform. Speak truth to power and do it loud and proud!!!!
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2015, 10:54:52 PM »
If they started with #9, they could do away with the other 8.
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2015, 10:58:02 PM »
The whacko fringe of the Democrats will come out of the woodwork on this issue... This issue has driven a wedge in the Democratic party forever, and hopefully this continues.  While I question how anyone can logically claim to be a "Pro Gun Democrat"... there's a lot of them out there, and I'd prefer Hitlery and Bernie keep screaming about the need for new gun control, as it will just drive the wedge deeper.
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2015, 11:41:23 PM »
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40. Maybe if a license was required for possession...

other trainers would find it profitable and a bunch of companies would spring up. Obviously, some would be better than others.
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Don't look now, but a DUmmie is supporting a free market...  :yahoo:
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2015, 05:16:17 AM »
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40. Maybe if a license was required for possession...

It's already being done.  It's called a CCW permit...  :thatsright:
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2015, 06:20:50 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on June 22, 2015, 05:16:17 AM
It's already being done.  It's called a CCW permit...  :thatsright:

A CCW only deals w/ carrying a concealed weapon.  DUmmies want a license to keep a gun in the home... (ie.. Registration)
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2015, 06:30:24 AM »
Ban hand guns......buy stock in hacksaws and shotgun manufacturers.
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2015, 07:17:44 AM »
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snip.......

Also, if I were faced with fixing the problem, I'd start with the things Bernie Sanders is talking about:
Income equality
Free tuition
Health care for all

This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum.

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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2015, 07:34:56 AM »
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  Step 5: mandatory ID for sale of handgun ammunition

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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2015, 08:19:12 AM »
Weekend at Bernies is from a state where there has been Constitutional carry for quite some time.  How do they reconcile that?   :yawn:
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2015, 08:38:49 AM »
Step 1: Get off the recreational chemicals.

Step 2: Reintroduce yourself to reality (from which you've been a stranger for most of your life!).
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2015, 08:42:18 AM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on June 22, 2015, 08:19:12 AM
Weekend at Bernies is from a state where there has been Constitutional carry for quite some time.  How do they reconcile that?   :yawn:
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2015, 11:17:37 AM »
Quote from: Ken8521 on June 22, 2015, 06:20:50 AM
A CCW only deals w/ carrying a concealed weapon.  DUmmies want a license to keep a gun in the home... (ie.. Registration)

Illinois has basically had that law for decades by requiring firearm owners to have a FOID card. It hasn't done much to stop the thugs in Chicago and E. St. Louis from killing each other.
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2015, 11:52:44 AM »
These types of violence are horrible and I, like most everyone else hates to see them, but to come to the point of offering up some of this kneejerk BULLSHIT because .00000003% of our population (if I did the math correctly) was shot, is just stupid.

99.999999% of firearms owners did not break the law, and I'll be damned if I'm for penalizing them for the .000001% who did.

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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2015, 11:53:19 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on June 22, 2015, 11:17:37 AM
Illinois has basically had that law for decades by requiring firearm owners to have a FOID card. It hasn't done much to stop the thugs in Chicago and E. St. Louis from killing each other.

Illinois's FOID card is the best example yet that gun owner ID's, registration, etc.. does absolutely nothing to combat gun crime.... as criminals have zero interest in registering their arms, or obtaining them legally.

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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2015, 12:05:31 PM »
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Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
 Step 2: ban the import of handguns

Step 3: mandatory registry for existing handguns

Step 4: imprint handgun bullet casings with an ID number traceable to the box

Step 5: mandatory ID for sale of handgun ammunition

Step 6: no tax on handgun ammunition sold and fired at a licensed range; $20 a box tax on handgun ammunition taken off the range

Step 7: tax proceeds from the sale of ammunition will be used for handgun buybacks

Step 8: handguns surrendered during buybacks will be destroyed

Step 9: if you're caught with a handgun or ammunition that isn't registered to you, it's a mandatory felony


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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2015, 12:16:11 PM »
Quote from: Ken8521 on June 22, 2015, 11:53:19 AM
Illinois's FOID card is the best example yet that gun owner ID's, registration, etc.. does absolutely nothing to combat gun crime.... as criminals have zero interest in registering their arms, or obtaining them legally.

Exactly. The only way to combat gun crimes is to make the penalties so harsh that they aren't worth it. 

Mass murders on the other hand, can not be stopped by banning and confiscating guns.  There are other more gruesome ways of accomplishing the same result.
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Re: Step 1: ban the manufacture of handguns
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2015, 01:39:32 PM »
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Step 6: no tax on handgun ammunition sold and fired at a licensed range; $20 a box tax on handgun ammunition taken off the range

Step 7: tax proceeds from the sale of ammunition will be used for handgun buybacks

Take gun owners money, en masse, nationwide, large scale, and then use it against them?

I'm sure nobody would see that as a declaration of war. ::)

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