Really, I brought this over just for the title alone!
uhnope (3,404 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026847018
If Jenner can be a woman while still sporting a penis, why can't Rachel Dolezal be African American?
sorry to be so blunt, but just sayin'
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/02/living/caitlyn-jenner-name-style-decoding-feat/
Whether Jenner will feel complete as a woman while possessing a penis is a question only she can answer.
The NAACP was cool with Dolezal. Why is white culture freaking out?
Not sure we whites are freaking out. Not sure why we would- it's not about race, yo. Its about a lying white woman (possibly shit-house crazy) who lied about being black to gain shit in this county. THEN- it would be all over now if she said, "Dammit! Caught me!" But what she's continued to do is make a small issue bigger with more lies and posturing.
It's not a black thing.
brooklynite (22,086 posts)
1. Race is a physical characteristic. Has she had her skin color changed permanently?
No... it's a genetic characteristic. Sort of like sex.... and in UP case, species.
MosheFeingold (478 posts)
9. Just wait a while
People will be saying they are really a different race than they were born and get tattooed or dyed (or bleached) or whatnot. Heck, there is Mengele-worthy means of changing eye color already. I am sure with enough money there is a doctor somewhere that will do this.
My joke has been Michael Jackson was WAY ahead of this trend. He turned himself into a white woman!
- Michael Jackson joke.
Adrahil (3,691 posts)
19. Not really....Race is a human construct based largely on morphological features. But genetically, it's basically impossible define "race."
No--- the exact opposet is true. Race is all about the genetic makeup in each person and the various strands of DNA running through each of your cells... BUT, if that is true then there can be no Male Panthers trapped in a Female Human Body. Its just in your head.
DeadLetterOffice (875 posts)
237. Not race, no. Region, possibly.
Molecular anthropologists are often asked if DNA markers can tell what "race" you are. The short answer is "no." Mitochondrial DNA and Y haplogroups can tell from which continent your matrilineal and patrilineal ancestors came.
My DNA threads can tell you I am Protestant?
a report published in Science magazine (Dec. 20, 2002). Noah Rosenberg, Marcus Feldman and others analyzed the variation in 377 different DNA sequences from 1056 individuals from around the world. They found that 95% of the DNA variation they studied is due to differences between individuals within any continent. But they also found they could use the remaining 5% of the variation as genetic "footprints" indicating the continent from which an individual's recent ancestors came.Drahthaardogs (2,076 posts)
244. Which, by human definition (cause race or breeds are a made up term) is essentially race it would depend on what you define as race. Are the Basque people a race? Nationality is not race per se. French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Italians were at one more or less, the same race. I don't know, its tricky but there sure is a cultural and at least to some degree biological tendency towards race.
uppityperson (95,610 posts)
95. Gender is not dependent on body parts. Women who have no uterus or ovaries are still women
A man who, for example, has his pelvis severely injured in a bombing, has no testicles of permitted remaining is still a man. Right?
uppityperson (95,610 posts)
252. What body parts "makes you a woman"? You seem to also say being a woman is dependent on xx chromosomes. Is that correct?
MineralMan (73,175 posts)
3. That's just ugly. You should consider self-deleting this. It's transphobic.
You can't defend one and not the other.
Aerows (31,494 posts)
221. It's the whole gleeful RW "Ha ha ha, we've got those liberals now, transgender people are fake just like this white woman pretending to be black ha ha ha."
It's demeaning, and seeing it here makes me ill, sad and frankly, questioning why the **** people perpetuating that meme are here. Hell, maybe I don't belong here if that is acceptable.
pretty much. Yeah.
Skittles (100,388 posts)
227. the question is being asked by transphobes / bigots
there are plenty of people on DU who DO.NOT.F***ING.GET.IT.
MohRokTah (8,297 posts)
47. I would have voted to hide.
The OP is hateful to both African Americans and transgender people, IMO.
Codeine (14,689 posts)
179. I can move to Nairobi. I can learn Bantu culture.
I can master Swahili. I can dress like a native, eat local foods, cook with local ingredients with traditional spices, read best-selling African novels and totally assimilate into the culture of Kenya.
Ain't one bit of that will justify me sewing box braids to my head, hitting the spay-tan booth, and calling myself black. I could almost certainly call myself a Kenyan without anybody saying otherwise, but black? Nuh-uh. I don't get to steal that most basic identity.
AngryAmish (22,663 posts)
180. Steal? Some Indian dude comes to the US, becomes a success, buys a big house and a country club membership, marries a local, wears Ralph Lauren clothes....is stealing Amercan culture. Got it.
The big difference is, American isn't a race or one particular sort of people. American is One people Out Of Many.
PeaceNikki (24,252 posts)
173. It's a transphobic and racist right wing rude and insensitive dig.
That's why.
Blue_Tires (41,321 posts)
23. Because I don't want that batshit insane woman claiming to speak for me and my culture.
Clear enough?
Blue_Tires (41,321 posts)
73. Look into her past...She's a conwoman of the highest degree
and she's had like 10 different versions of her backstory, which are probably all wrong...Why would anybody trust a woman who has spent more years of her life deceiving everyone instead of being true to herself?
If she really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really wants to help out the Af'Ram Community, there's no reason why she can't do it as a white woman...Believe it or not, there are some white folks out there who have dedicated their lives to helping Black Americans, and they were able to do it without rejecting their own ethnicity...
Aerows (31,494 posts)
107. It's incredibly ****ed up that it was allowed to stand. Enough dog whistles that we shouldn't be able to hear for all the barks.
beam me up scottie (29,491 posts)
70. Because she's only black when it's convenient, Dolezal was plenty white when she sued Howard U.
It's not a matter of choice with trans people, I am so sick of seeing this idiotic meme here.
Your op is disgusting and should have been hidden.
bravenak (12,854 posts)
89. Why are white people trying to tell black people to let Rachael Dolezal be black?
Whole lotta white privilege going on... Well, I've decided I'm gonna go ahead and be white now. Imma need your support, emotionally and financially. Takes alot of money to bleach the skin and buy all that straight hair.
I expect you all who support Rachael's blackness to support MY whiteness. I'm quite happy that I mad the decision to be white. A BIG weight off my shoulders. Soo, lets get that fund started up soon, kay? Soon as I get about fifty thou, I'm willing to go on ahead and let Rach have my blackness.
