http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026802800 The pot stirring message:
Star Member Flying Squirrel (1,717 posts)
* Re-post ... Day 1 *
I liked this thread, and a particular exchange within it. In fact, I like it so much that I plan to re-post it once daily throughout the Democratic Primaries, for wider exposure.
OP by peecoolyour
America won't vote for a Socialist Jew
NYC_SKP
10. Kick and Rec!
And I'll add a little something here.
We need to seriously look at why we support whom we support: is it because of their policies and record, or because of their race, religion, or sex?
I dare say that one of the candidates is enjoying big numbers because of the desire of supporters to see the first female president elected.
This is not to say that they'd support a GOP female president.
But I would submit that for a Democrat they'll give a pass on all kinds of different baggage.
azmom
17. My daughter attends an all women's college
She and her friends are big fans of Warren. No surprise to me as they are a bunch of liberal feminists. What was a real surprise is that they have all turned their support to Bernie.
They love his economic message.
NYC_SKP
39. I suspect it's older women who are really pulling for Hillary Clinton.
And I think this is reasonable: they've experienced far more oppression in the workplace, etc., than their younger counterparts who see women mayors, governors, senators, etc., and think nothing of it.
silverweb
60. Not this older woman.
I've also lived through what was demoralizing then and illegal now (at least in California) in terms of sexual harassment and even assault in the workplace, including as a single parent (before it was more or less "acceptable" by today's standards, which it still isn't to some) - and this older woman is for Bernie all the way.
Gender issues are very important but are far from being the only issues, especially today. Bernie's strongly on the same page there, anyway. A feminist does not have to be female.
NYC_SKP
63. Agree on all points and, you know, that shit still goes on in the workplace.
I left a good position because of the sexual harrassment I had to witness my director perpetrating.
I made a move to talk to HR, just asked for a sit down without details but mentioned whom I wanted to discuss and a week later I was informed that my contract would not be renewed and I was to report to a different department.
Paka
101. Another older woman checking in.
I support Bernie all the way. He's on the right side with all the social issues and understands how intrinsically they are linked to economic issues. They can't be isolated and treated separately. I am so happy to have him as our standard bearer.
JDPriestly
65. I'm an older woman. Talk about oppression in the workplace, etc.
And it is still here today.
I really, really, really want to see a woman in the White House. Really, really.
But Bernie is just the best candidate so far. I wish I could say otherwise, but I can't.
Bernie is the best candidate. And that's all there is to it.
He walks the walk and has been walking the walk for a long time.
The more people see Bernie, hear him and learn about him, the more voters he will attract.
He could very well win. We shall see.
You never know for sure what the future will bring. But Bernie is the best candidate.
demigoddess
104. totally agree, I want to see a woman in the Oval Office
but now Bernie has really impressed me. Will vote for him, then Hillary, then any democrat. that's depending who is on the ballot.
DesertFlower
110. i'm a 73 year old woman and bernie
is my choice. if hillary is the nominee she will get my vote.
maddiemom
121. 70 here, and I completely agree.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026772493
Today's reaction:
Egnever (15,311 posts)
3. A worthy reminder that we are not one post.
Be careful Egnever - overt support of the disappeared can even get 15K posters PPR'd
boston bean (23,218 posts)
6. It's always so nice first thing in the morning
to see post that contains a sexist response from a banned member who called Hillary a c*nt.
this part here:
We need to seriously look at why we support whom we support: is it because of their policies and record, or because of their race, religion, or sex?
I dare say that one of the candidates is enjoying big numbers because of the desire of supporters to see the first female president elected
What a loathsome, bigoted, sexist and racist thing to say. But obviously many posters here, including yourself agree with that.
Clue for you and any others who think this is a fine and wonderful thing to say. Women don't vote with their vagina's. Just as black people don't vote with their skin. To say so implies racist and sexist stereotypes that these persons can't possibly be smart enough but to vote except for those reasons alone.
Secondly, it is not a problem to identify with someone with whom you share something. That doesn't mean a vote is cast on that basis alone. To say so, demeans others in an attempt to minimize them and their voice.
Most definitely not all normal women or African Americans but a large portion DUmmies vote solely on either gender or race...
one_voice (15,199 posts)
22. While you continually re-post this..
banned member who called Hillary a c*nt.
for someone that claims to hate that word and is super duper pissed that it was used you sure do re-post that a lot I would think a link to his profile page would be enough--it's not as if every person on DU (and other places too) don't know what he was banned for.
Before you get all indignant I'm certainly not telling you what you can and cannot post. Just making an observation.
One_voice - you are living dangerously and risk attracting the attention and ire of the femnazis
boston bean (23,218 posts)
23. My post led you to believe that I find nothing wrong with the word?
There is a clear difference in spelling out a word, when criticizing it's usage. That is not misogynistic.
What is misogynistic is calling a woman one.
Also, I starred it out, as to hopefully fend off alerts that get sent all the time with the same misunderstanding you seem to have. That are trying to get a posters posts hidden for criticizing the MISOGYNISTIC usage.
c**t, c**t, c**t, c**t, c**t, c**t, c**t, c**t, c**t
Sheldon Cooper (3,576 posts)
7. What is your point here?
To keep stirring the pot? To keep alive the memory of your dear departed comrade? You know, the one who called Hillary a c*nt? Is this really the hill you want to die on?
Go Sheldon Go!
In_The_Wind (62,182 posts)
25. Locking
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Perhaps my mole missed this part
