Media Ignores Muslims Beating and Killing Gays

[SVPete]

Your quote tags got messed up, HFB, but a very good H-5-worthy point. The twin points of the thread are the Muslims who are or are threatening to kill gay for being gays, but buzz diverts the thread with nitpickery - functional-hypocrisy-in-action.

[Happy Fun Ball]

Your quote tags got messed up, HFB, but a very good H-5-worthy point. The twin points of the thread are the Muslims who are or are threatening to kill gay for being gays, but buzz diverts the thread with nitpickery - functional-hypocrisy-in-action.

Ok, fixed it.

[SVPete]

Ok, fixed it.

E-e-e-e-e-excellent! And your quote captured buzz's points so well!

[Zathras]

This is why I love this place. The feeling of insulation gives some of you people the impression that you can spew hateful yet heartfelt utterances and be left unaccountable. The pure honesty of your quoted comments is set off perfectly by them being completely clueless and totally demented.

A slab of bigotry between two slices of homophobia washed down with a stein of ignorance. 

Says the DUmbass who comes from a site that has been doing that since it came on line.

[BuzzClik]

You really want to talk about Geller's points? Sure, why not. It fits in quite well with my observations about "demented" comments from earlier.

In the case of the OP, we have isolated incidents of Muslims targeing gays in the U.S. Is this motivation for ripping into the entire Muslim religion? Not yet. You see, what differentiates this from the Memories Pizza incident is that the state government of Indiana had just passed a law making discrimination legal if you could drum up some religious reason for it -- I guess the preference would be a Christian motivation, but that wasn't clear. At the moment, the Muslims are not passing laws in the US legalizing this behavior. As soon as the Muslims as a group come out and start attempting to amend the Constitution and passing other laws discriminating against specific groups, then we'll have an issue. In the mean time, this is strictly a Christian problem in the US -- Geller be damned.

By the way, the closest thing you'll get to a consensus about this from the left is that any organized religion that hides behind its dogma to justify hate really, really sucks. It doesn't matter what religion that might be.

[JohnnyReb]

The only difference between a democrat and a Muslim is......the democrats aren't chopping off heads ...yet.... for not believing like they do....but that day IS coming.

[Carl]

You really want to talk about Geller's points? Sure, why not. It fits in quite well with my observations about "demented" comments from earlier.

In the case of the OP, we have isolated incidents of Muslims targeing gays in the U.S. Is this motivation for ripping into the entire Muslim religion? Not yet. You see, what differentiates this from the Memories Pizza incident is that the state government of Indiana had just passed a law making discrimination legal if you could drum up some religious reason for it -- I guess the preference would be a Christian motivation, but that wasn't clear. At the moment, the Muslims are not passing laws in the US legalizing this behavior. As soon as the Muslims as a group come out and start attempting to amend the Constitution and passing other laws discriminating against specific groups, then we'll have an issue. In the mean time, this is strictly a Christian problem in the US -- Geller be damned.

By the way, the closest thing you'll get to a consensus about this from the left is that any organized religion that hides behind its dogma to justify hate really, really sucks. It doesn't matter what religion that might be.

BS and you know it,the DUmp bends over backward to coddle and excuse muslims yet will condemn Christianity daily in the most vile of terms.
You can lie to yourself about it if you want but it doesn`t change the facts.

[BuzzClik]

BS and you know it,the DUmp bends over backward to coddle and excuse muslims yet will condemn Christianity daily in the most vile of terms.
You can lie to yourself about it if you want but it doesn`t change the facts.

Carl, I've come to realize that the overlap between what you actually know and what you think you know is very slight.

DU and the left in general are not anywhere near a consensus on how they feel about any religion -- Christianity, Islam, Judaism, whatever. Can you find people at DU who fit the description you gave? Sure. You could state exactly the opposite and be just as (in)correct.

[Carl]

Carl, I've come to realize that the overlap between what you actually know and what you think you know is very slight.

DU and the left in general are not anywhere near a consensus on how they feel about any religion -- Christianity, Islam, Judaism, whatever. Can you find people at DU who fit the description you gave? Sure. You could state exactly the opposite and be just as (in)correct.

Buzzy,there have been threads here in the DUmp many times over the years showing how all but a small number of you people will excuse or equivocate any action done by muzzie butchers.
The few that will condemn them are often labeled bigots or islamophobes.
Then there are the few who hate all religion but even then often manage to take a snipe at Christianity.

Do you really think you can spout just out right lies and think we will buy it?

[txradioguy]

You really want to talk about Geller's points? Sure, why not. It fits in quite well with my observations about "demented" comments from earlier.

Why are Geller's comments and accurate observations about Islam "demented"?

 I've heard your fellow denizens of the DUmp makr far more heinous comments that are far more deserving of the term "demented" aimed at Jews and Christians.

In the case of the OP, we have isolated incidents of Muslims targeing gays in the U.S. Is this motivation for ripping into the entire Muslim religion? Not yet. You see, what differentiates this from the Memories Pizza incident is that the state government of Indiana had just passed a law making discrimination legal if you could drum up some religious reason for it -- I guess the preference would be a Christian motivation, but that wasn't clear.

How much do you actually know about Islam?  When was the last time you lived in a Muslim country surrounded by nothing but Muslims?

You talk like you know all about Islam and you don't.  To try and compare a state exercising it's 10th Amendment Rights to what Islam and it's advocate in this coutnry are trying to force people to adhere to are two totally different things.  If you had more than a Liberlas knowledge of Islam you'd know this.

But you don't...and continue to put your ignorance of both subjects on full display.

Memories Pizza was within it's right to refuse like they did.  Just the same as McDonalds has the right to tell some one that if they don't wear a shirt or shoes in their establishment they have the right to refuse that person service.

But this isn't about tolerance...it's about subjugation to a belief where the gay "mafia" is concerned you either suport os or we're going to crush you.

Kinda like Sharia Law Muslims.

Perfect example....in the news last week...a Christian Jewler made a set of rings for a lesbian couple even though he opposes gay marriage. made them to the exact specifications of the couple...but when the couple found out he was a Christian who opposed gay marriage....they sued him to get their deposit back.

He did EXACTLY what they wanted and how they wanted...and that STILL wasn't good enough for them.  He was so assaulted with online messages harassing phone calls and verbal threats he gave in and refinded their deposit.

Doug "Ibrahim" Hooper...the failed Minneapolis TV producer and the goons at CAIR use the same kind of tactics to silence anyone who dares speak ill or tell the truth about Islam.

At the moment, the Muslims are not passing laws in the US legalizing this behavior. As soon as the Muslims as a group come out and start attempting to amend the Constitution and passing other laws discriminating against specific groups, then we'll have an issue.

They don't have to do it.  Organizations like CAIR have their surrogates in the government doing the censoring for them. 

The President has hosted the Muslim Brotherhood at the White House on several occasions.

Hell the President has a Sharia Baking advisor on his staff.

The Muslims don't need to be overt about what they want done...they've got plenty of willing Washington sellouts willing to do their bidding for them.

In the mean time, this is strictly a Christian problem in the US -- Geller be damned.

Tell that to the Christians that have been beheadded and burned alive in the Middle East.

Tell that to the people at UNESCO who are watching world heritage sites...Christian archeologial sites destroyed by...Muslims.

Tell the people here in Europe that have to deal with Sharia Only neighborhoods that it's "strictly a Christian problem".

By the way, the closest thing you'll get to a consensus about this from the left is that any organized religion that hides behind its dogma to justify hate really, really sucks. It doesn't matter what religion that might be.

You won't find anyone who is an ignorant progressive like yourself Bobby...hating on Islam the way you Progressives hate on Jews and Christians.

See your buddies on  the left plays by the rule of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".  Both of you hate America so Progressives like you are willing to overlook and excuse the beheadding of a few gays in the Middle East if the radical muslims are able to help you achieve your over all common goal.

[txradioguy]

DU and the left in general are not anywhere near a consensus on how they feel about any religion -- Christianity, Islam, Judaism, whatever. Can you find people at DU who fit the description you gave? Sure. You could state exactly the opposite and be just as (in)correct.

Do you REALLY want us to link to the countless threads bashing religion..except Islam...over at the DUmp?

It's not hard to find the people that fit the description Carl gave because it's the majority of the people there.

[wasp69]

As soon as the Muslims as a group come out and start attempting to amend the Constitution and passing other laws discriminating against specific groups, then we'll have an issue.

When that scenario becomes reality, it'll be too late for you to have "an issue", stupid.

And, seriously, stop with Memories Pizza.  What you are saying is bullshit, it's always been bullshit, the restaurant would never have denied service to your precious deviants in their store and the State of Indiana did not do what you're claiming.

Enough, already.  Continuing to repeat that crap is not going to make it come true.

By the way, the closest thing you'll get to a consensus about this from the left is that any organized religion that hides behind its dogma to justify hate really, really sucks. It doesn't matter what religion that might be.

Yeah?  Sorry, buzzy, but that turd just doesn't flush.  Considering the amount of Jew-haters and Christophobes that vomit on their keyboards at the DUmp on a daily basis?  Go sell that bullshit elsewhere, no one's buying it here.

[wasp69]

Do you really think you can spout just out right lies and think we will buy it?

Of course he does, Carl.  You don't expect anything less from a sniveling DUmbass, do you?

[Carl]

Of course he does, Carl.  You don't expect anything less from a sniveling DUmbass, do you?

Not at all,they are so used to telling their lies and stories to each other that they think it flies everywhere.

[SVPete]

By the way, the closest thing you'll get to a consensus about this from the left is that any organized religion that hides behind its dogma to justify hate really, really sucks.

1.) Islam doesn't hide its hatred - or its greed. It's right there, in the open, in the Qur'an.

2.) You'd be hard-pressed to find actual hatred - not phony disagreeing-with-me = hatred, but real hatred - for gays among mainstream Christians (including Evangelicals and Fundamentalists). And don't be stupid enough to play the Fred Phelps Card. The late, unlamented, Fred was not mainstream, and was publicly unequivocally rejected by mainstream Christians.

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

I see that Buzzy has chimed in and, like a good troll, seeks to completely derail/ divert the topic.

" The feeling of insulation gives some of you people the impression that you can spew hateful yet heartfelt utterances and be left unaccountable."
You people? What do you mean, "You people"? Bigot.

"Muzzies, homos, and amoral, cowardly liberals. The trifecta."
Aww, baby need a bottle? Any name calling you see here is nothing compared to the name calling the DUmmies regularly spew against Christians ("Fundies," "Jesus nuts," "Xians," etc.), Republicans ("Rethugs," "Repugs," "Republikkkans," "Fascists," "Nazis," "Terrorists," "Rednecks," etc.), black conservatives ("Uncle Toms/ Aunt Jemimas," "Race traitors," "House ni@@ers," "Oreos," etc.), and any other group that disagrees with their views.

"By the way, the closest thing you'll get to a consensus about this from the left is that any organized religion that hides behind its dogma to justify hate really, really sucks. It doesn't matter what religion that might be."
Is that why there have been, among other things, numerous DU threads about how all Christian churches need to be stripped of their tax- exempt status on the basis that some churches have people in them who say things that gays might find offensive, yet I've never seen a single DU thread suggesting similar punishments for Muslim mosques that openly preach hatred against gays, Jews, Christians, America, etc.?
btw, as others have noticed, the Bill Maher types on the DUmp and among the Left in general just love openly spreading hate against Christians for petty reasons, yet are reluctant to say anything remotely negative about Muslims. Even with Muslim terrorists who kill people, the Left either hems and haws about being "Conflicted" and hesitating to condemn their actions, or actually portrays the terrorists as brave and noble heroes standing up to evil Western imperialism and Islamophobia or some crap like that. Case in point: The way much of the Left (Including many DUmmies) has been portraying the Boston Marathon bombers.

" You see, what differentiates this from the Memories Pizza incident is that the state government of Indiana had just passed a law making discrimination legal if you could drum up some religious reason for it -- I guess the preference would be a Christian motivation, but that wasn't clear."
No, what differentiates this from the Memories Pizza incident is that the Memories Pizza incident was just one person there expressing their opinion on an issue in a peaceful, nonviolent way, answering a question from a meddling journalist who was almost certainly attempting to bait them and accuse everyone connected to the pizza place of homophobia. In plain English, one incident was a person expressing an opinion, the other was groups of people openly getting violent. The DUmmies and leftists in general, however, pretty much completely ignore the violent attacks committed by Muslim extremists, instead focusing on spewing venom against a peaceful Christian just expressing an opinion.

"At the moment, the Muslims are not passing laws in the US legalizing this behavior."
Look to England, which lately has been acting as a "Canary in the coalmine" early warning system as to what will happen in the US if we keep bending over backwards to appease radical Muslims out of fear of being accused of racism if we don't, the way the Brits have been doing: Several neighborhoods in London and elsewhere have been designated "Muslim- only areas," and Muslim activists have been petitioning the British governments to allow those areas to be governed from within by Sharia law.

Now, to get slightly back on topic:
"It's a bit simpler than that, especially item 1.
1. Gays and Muslims are both "victim" classes. Libs & Progs don't know how to handle two "victim" groups coming into conflict. Nor can they handle the idea that "victims" can in real life be oppressors.
2. Christian-hating Libs & Progs are cowardly. They know that no matter how much venom they spew, vandalism they do, or harassment they do, they risk no serious danger."
Good point about Item 1, SVPete, but your take on Item 2 is just a rewording of what I said.

[GOBUCKS]

BuzzyBob is just the latest DUmmy to come here campaigning for DUmmy of the Year votes.

It really means a lot to them; past winners rub their fellow DUmpmonkeys' noses in their victories for years.

Big Mo, nadin, and Pam Dawson mention their wins repeatedly - at their peril, since it triggers rage among the losing candidates.

Other Top DUmmies are no longer with us, victims of the DUmp jealousy that flares every time a DOTY is announced.

TomInTib, perhaps the greatest DOTY in the history of the democrat party, was tombstoned as a result of his win, and the DUmp has never really recovered.

Anyway, as nadin would say it's "cute" that Buzzy is here shilling for votes, but he should be aware of the risks.

While it's common for DUmmies to come here campaigning, the effort has never been rewarded with a win and the rejection is painful.
The despicable Tangerine LaBamba was here for months working for votes. Though significantly more educated and articulate than Buzzy, she was never in strong contention.

Her weak showing in the DOTY voting was so devastating she actually committed suicide, proving that a DUmp democrat really can make the world a better place.

[thundley4]

By the way, the closest thing you'll get to a consensus about this from the left is that any organized religion that hides behind its dogma to justify hate really, really sucks. It doesn't matter what religion that might be.

You attack Christianity by calling their adherence to tenets of their faith "hate". I don't know any Christians that say they hate gays. No, they detest the lifestyle as immoral, but they don't hate the person. 

[Big Dog]

You see, what differentiates this from the Memories Pizza incident is that the state government of Indiana had just passed a law making discrimination legal if you could drum up some religious reason for it

Buzz,

Describe for us your methodology for discerning drumming up some religious reason, from a legitimate objection based on religious belief, personal conscience, freedom of association, or the natural right of Property.

[wasp69]

The late, unlamented, Fred was not mainstream, and was publicly unequivocally rejected by mainstream Christians.

The "late, unlamented, Fred" was a card carrying democrat.

[SVPete]

The "late, unlamented, Fred" was a card carrying democrat.

'Tis true. And he received an award recognizing his valuable service from his local branch of the NAACP, back in the 1970s. I've heard that he was actually a racist. If true, I think he was, at heart, basically a shit-stirrer. That certainly fits what he became infamous for doing, back in the 90s. He got a taste of justice, IMO, near the end of his life when his "church" kicked him off their premises and into a skilled nursing facility; it may have been but the beginning of receiving justice.

[BuzzClik]

Buzz,

Describe for us your methodology for discerning drumming up some religious reason, from a legitimate objection based on religious belief, personal conscience, freedom of association, or the natural right of Property.

I don't see the problem here. I read it, paraphrased, and typed it in.

 

[BuzzClik]

BuzzyBob is just the latest DUmmy to come here campaigning for DUmmy of the Year votes...

...Anyway, as nadin would say it's "cute" that Buzzy is here shilling for votes, but he should be aware of the risks.

You wound me, sir, to suggest I have ulterior motives. Please understand that when I suggested that you are bigoted, homophobic, and clueless, I did so with great sincerity and admiration for your craft.

[Carl]

You wound me, sir, to suggest I have ulterior motives. Please understand that when I suggested that you are bigoted, homophobic, and clueless, I did so with great sincerity and admiration for your craft.

As far as I am concerned buzzy,you are are a semi stupid yet devious mutt.
You are still able to post here even after you cowardly tried to hide behind DUmp ban at sight policies when you got your ass kicked back and forth.
Why is that,when none of us here would have that same latitude at DU?

You lie without abandon and am sure you know it because that is what the leftist world is built on,one lie after another.

When you talk yourself into a corner you do what every leftist I have ever encountered does,you are not unique or profound.
In no particular order you attempt the obfuscating ploy of claiming to not understand.

At some point there will be the strawman diversions,the out right denial of documented facts and sooner or later a run away.

We know you half wits better then you know yourselves because in your arrogance you think you fool people but you fool no one.

Tell me buzz,as much as it is obvious that you hate your fellow DUmprats from way back,why don`t you call them out as easily as you try to do people here?
Are you scared?
You are not banned here for being a jackass but bet you would be there if you truly expressed your feelings about your comrades.

What say you buzzy,you have expressed disdain for them all the way back to 7 years ago as Pit Viper at CU but it seems the only time you try to speak your mind is at places that allow you to post as an adversary?

Gutless piece of shit.

[Ptarmigan]

The answer to the "why" on this is really simple.

Liberals love to divide people into classes.  They seperate straights from gays men from women christians from athiests and on and on....and they put them into their own little classes that they are never suppsoed to stray from.

Muslims do the same thing.

Both believe in top down totalitarian rule over the people and control over every aspect of their lives with severe consequences for anyone who steps out of line.

The media is 99.9% Liberal therefore they are willing and quite complacent in overlooking what they see as a minor issue in the larger overall picture and end result of what they see as the future of not only the country....but the world.

If a few gays in the shithole that is the Middle East have to die in order to gain a world wide Socialist Utopia...*meh*...it s a small price to pay.  We'll get around to that issue once we've achieved our larger goal.

Everyone on the left is expendable.