It is absolutely OK to spew hate and incite violence.

[CC27]

Star Member cali (100,258 posts)

It is absolutely OK to spew hate and incite violence.


against any group or religion.

It's fine to call MLK a "commie N----r" and trumpet that black people are filthy animals. It's "provocative". It's equally fine to hold a contest that awards a prize for the winner of a cartoon depicting Jews as baby killers.

The American Nazi Party had the right to march in Skokie Illinois, home to many holocaust survivors. But does anyone thing that they should have exercised that right?

Does anyone think that the KKK should march through an AA community in full regalia just because they have the right to?

Yes, I'm comparing Pamela Geller's little gathering in Garland to the above. It may seem like an innocuous little cartoon contest, but context means something and the context is that Pamela Geller advocates for banning Islam in the U.S., spews the most outrageous hate and lies about Muslims and endorses genocide- as long as it's Muslims. Geller sure as hell was trying to provoke violence. Why else hold her "awards ceremony" in the same place as a pro-Islam meeting was held in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo killings, in January? Why have an awards ceremony at all? Couldn't she have just announced a winner from NY? I'm NOT NOT NOT saying she didn't have the right to do these things. I am saying that she does this shit because she's trying to gin up a war against Muslims. I am NOT NOT NOT condoning the assholes who attacked her little hate fest.

So no, it's not fine. It's vile. Yes, it's free speech but it's speech that should be condemned not condoned or worse yet, lauded.

Condemn the gunmen, but don't forget to condemn the purveyors of hate and those trying to instigate violence against others- and Pamela Geller has been doing that, with the thinnest of veils, for years.

MLK was a republican. Sorry to ruin your stupid rant DUmmie.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026624388

[txradioguy]

Condemn the gunmen, but don't forget to condemn the purveyors of hate and those trying to instigate violence against others

Does that include the disciples of radical Islam?


You stepped into a trap of your own making on that one. 

You need to take a serious and hard look outisde of the stupid little eho chamber you live in.

It's not Christians rioting in the streets and shooting up public events over Piss Christ.

These were innocent stupid cartoons and because someone dared to draw them the "religion of peace" deemed it necessary to kill anyone who laid eyes on them.

Who's the intolerant ones inciting violence now?

[FiddyBeowulf]

That whole OP smacks of blaming the victim. Instead of trying to kill her what if they instead had tried to rape her, would this DUmmie be ok with it because she was asking for it?

[txradioguy]

That whole OP smacks of blaming the victim. Instead of trying to kill her what if they instead had tried to rape her, would this DUmmie be ok with it because she was asking for it?

Or if this had been a gay "rights" rally or 'wedding" that the terrorists decided to target?

[Carl]

Wonder if crazy old Eva thinks the Code Pink protestors should have been shot on sight?

[HawkHogan]

MLK should have never marched in the streets for civil rights.  He was provoking angry reactions.   

Seriously, did any of these Dummies actually look at the cartoons?  The winner was drawn by a former Muslim. 
Pamela Geller did this country a great service.  She smoked these radical Muslims out before they shot up a mall or school. 

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

"It may seem like an innocuous little cartoon contest, but context means something and the context is that Pamela Geller advocates for banning Islam in the U.S..... and endorses genocide- as long as it's Muslims."

Neither of those are the case and you know it, DUmmy. Claiming those things about her border on libel.
She did it to show both the radical Muslim nutjobs and the hypocritical leftist PC police that she's not afraid of them.

[JohnnyReb]

What's the problem, DUmmies? Evilness and hatred is preached every Friday in Mosque all over the world. I don't see/hear you trying to shut them up.

[BuzzClik]

MLK was a republican. Sorry to ruin your stupid rant DUmmie.

She claimed otherwise?

[txradioguy]

She claimed otherwise?

Yup

It's fine to call MLK a "commie N----r" and trumpet that black people are filthy animals

I know that fact really irks you Libs but he was a Republican and it was that Civil Rights "icon" Bobby Kennedy that authorized the FBI to spy on him.

Thought you were done with this place?

[BuzzClik]

Yup

Wrong answer. Her post had nothing to do whatsoever with partisan politics. That was the invention of the OP

I know that fact really irks you Libs but he was a Republican ...

Ok. So, you think MLK was a Republican. No one knows that for sure; but, why would a black man back then support the party of George Wallace?

You are clearly making some unfounded -- and wrong -- assumptions.

[chitownchica]

Wrong answer. Her post had nothing to do whatsoever with partisan politics. That was the invention of the OP
Ok. So, you think MLK was a Republican. No one knows that for sure; but, why would a black man back then support the party of George Wallace?

You are clearly making some unfounded -- and wrong -- assumptions.

Why would a black man support the party of Bull Conner?

[Zathras]

Wrong answer. Her post had nothing to do whatsoever with partisan politics. That was the invention of the OP
Ok. So, you think MLK was a Republican. No one knows that for sure; but, why would a black man back then support the party of George Wallace?

You are clearly making some unfounded -- and wrong -- assumptions.

Why would a black man support the party of George Wallace? I don't know but, possibly, because they promise to give him hope and change? FYI Buzzy, Wallace was a DEMOCRAT, not a Republican. And don't forget that it was JFK, another DEMOCRAT, who ordered his phones wiretapped.

[txradioguy]

Wrong answer. Her post had nothing to do whatsoever with partisan politics. That was the invention of the OP

Are you hitting the crack pipe again?  Cali IS the OP.  That line was in her Op...she wasn't quoting anyone.

Ok. So, you think MLK was a Republican. No one knows that for sure; but,

I don't think I know.  History and his own relatives confirm it.  He supported Eisenhower and Nixon...whom he was close with in the late 50's.

but, why would a black man back then support the party of George Wallace?

Wallace wasn't a Republican.

George Corley Wallace, Jr. (August 25, 1919 – September 13, 1998) was an American politician and the 45th Governor of Alabama, having served two nonconsecutive terms and two consecutive terms as a Democrat: 1963–1967, 1971–1979 and 1983–1987.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace

You suck at history.

You probably believe it was the Republicans in the South that were burning crosses and lynching black to don't you?

Of course you do...

Quick quiz Buzzy...which party had the only Grand Kleegle of the KKK serving in the Senate?

You are clearly making some unfounded -- and wrong -- assumptions.

And yet I'm able to provide facts to highlight completely and totally what an idiot you are and how little you know about history.

[BuzzClik]

Good gawd. You didn't understand a single word I wrote. It gets back to making wrong initial assumptions and reading what you think you know rather than that which is actually written on the page.

Nevermind.

Maybe I'll have better luck with CC27.

[txradioguy]

Good gawd. You didn't understand a single word I wrote. It gets back to making wrong initial assumptions and reading what you think you know rather than that which is actually written on the page.

I understood everything you said.

And you were wrong...as usual.

Nevermind.

Translated..."****...I screwed up"

Maybe I'll have better luck with CC27.

I bet you won't.

[Duke Nukum]

Good gawd. You didn't understand a single word I wrote. It gets back to making wrong initial assumptions and reading what you think you know rather than that which is actually written on the page.

Nevermind.

Maybe I'll have better luck with CC27.

If you're being misunderstood, perhaps you lack proper communication skills? The rest of the world doesn't live in your head.

[BuzzClik]

Why would a black man support the party of George Wallace? I don't know but, possibly, because they promise to give him hope and change? FYI Buzzy, Wallace was a DEMOCRAT, not a Republican. And don't forget that it was JFK, another DEMOCRAT, who ordered his phones wiretapped.

You and txradioguy are under the mistaken impression that I think MLK was a Democrat (or that I care enough to argue about it). There isn't much evidence one way or another, but MLK being a Republican makes sense considering the time -- George Wallace exemplified the Southern Democrats, and that couldn't have been particularly attractive to someone like MLK.

By the way, it was RFK who approved the tapping of King's phones, not JFK.

[txradioguy]

If you're being misunderstood, perhaps you lack proper communication skills? The rest of the world doesn't live in your head.

You and I both know there was nothing misunderstood.

He claimed what I quoted wasn't from Cali it was from the OP...yet Cali WAS the OP.

Called into question whether MLK supported Republicans...when history shows it to be true.

Claimed George Wallace was a Republican...when he wasn't.

And yet I'm the one that is accused of not understanding what is being said.

 

[txradioguy]

You and txradioguy are under the mistaken impression that I think MLK was a Democrat (or that I care enough to argue about it). There isn't much evidence one way or another, but MLK being a Republican makes sense considering the time --

Nice backtrack Buzzy.

George Wallace exemplified the Southern Democrats, and that couldn't have been particularly attractive to someone like MLK.

You claimed that Wallace was a Republican hence the Reason MLK wouldn't be a Republican in your estimation.

You were wrong. 

By the way, it was RFK who approved the tapping of King's phones, not JFK.

I said RFK you dolt.  I said BOBBY Kennedy approved the wiretaps.  I never said JFK did.

You really shouldn't post when you're not sober.

[CC27]

No luck with me buzzy. I'm confused with you. Please come again?

[BuzzClik]

No luck with me buzzy. I'm confused with you. Please come again?

A fresh start. Good.

What make you think that cali believes that MLK was a Dem or that it had anything to do with her "rant"?

[CC27]

A fresh start. Good.

What make you think that cali believes that MLK was a Dem or that it had anything to do with her "rant"?

Because she said this, It's fine to call MLK a "commie N----r" and trumpet that black people are filthy animals.

[jukin]

If that hot woman hadn't dressed as a slut, I would never had to have raped her.

SWIDT DUchebags?

Yeah that's the thing you are doing to Geller. Assholes.

[Skul]

Looks like teh Buzztard is trolling for the ban-hammer,.....again.
So sorry, Buzztard, you're way to much fun to have around.