Wee Willy Pitt, like Pepperidge Farm, Remembers

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WilliamPitt (57,880 posts)  http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026612740

Stiglitz and Sanders under the bus.
Seriously, where am I?

They were heroes here a year ago.

Remember?

I do.

Apparently, Stiglets said something bad about Sanders. Or Obama. Or Hillary. Really- who gives a ****?

smokey nj (42,363 posts)
1. We're through the looking glass, Will.

the sequel to Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (1865). It is based on his meeting with another Alice, Alice Raikes. Set some six months later than the earlier book, Alice again enters a fantastical world, this time by climbing through a mirror into the world that she can see beyond it. Though not quite as popular as Wonderland, Through the Looking-Glass includes such celebrated verses as "Jabberwocky" and "The Walrus and the Carpenter", and the episode involving Tweedledum and Tweedledee

Tweedledum being playing this evening by our own, Wee Willy.

cali (100,019 posts)
6. HDF. Hillary Defence Force

They're upset over the positive attention Bernie is getting.

Ooo... I like that.

MineralMan (71,973 posts)
8. And how many posts have you made to throw President Obama under the bus? Almost nobody's throwing Sanders under any bus. Some doubt that he can win, and that's a valid issue in a Presidential race. Many people will vote on that basis in the primaries, and political planners and major contributors take that very seriously in their considerations.

You're complaining about something that isn't really happening on DU. You can find a few isolated threads where someone is dissing Senator Sanders, but they're not getting much traction. There are dozens of threads trashing Hillary Clinton and President Obama. Just trash the threads that you hate and you won't see them any longer. That's my suggestion. DU will have all sorts of threads about the primary race. Not all will be 100% supportive of Sanders. That I can guarantee.

MineralMan (71,973 posts)
19. Many posters do discuss issues and make good cases for

their favorite candidates. I appreciate their posts. Others, however, focus on writing posts that simply are in opposition to a Democratic candidate, without any real comparison between the candidates we will be voting on in 2016. Still others focus on other DUers in their posts, without much information at all about the choices we all will be making.

Still other posters discuss primarily political history and how people vote in elections. There are some really politically savvy people writing about these topics, and we need to pay attention. DU represents only a small fraction of Democratic voters. DUers aren't here in numbers enough to really affect any elections, especially a presidential election.

Studying how voters behave, polling trends, and how we can most effectively work to bring voters to the polls who will vote for Democratic candidates are another set of important topics, although they rarely create long, active threads with lots of recommendations. DU is just a political discussion forum. It has a limited set of viewers who read posts, so its influence is rather small, when weighed against other things.

Jack Rabbit (43,378 posts)
54. Not all will be 100% supportive of Sanders

And I predict that the team that scores the most runs will win today.

IIRC, Hillary had it wrapped up eight years ago. What happened?

I was one of those who had low expectations of a Clinton presidency being anything more than warmed over DLC Republican lite garbage, and I decided to lend my voice to Senator Obama. I will say that what I got was somewhat better than I expected of a Clinton presidency, but somewhat less than I had hoped for from President Obama. If I had had my way, TPP and TTIP would be DOA, we'd be long out of Afghanistan, we would have been out of Iraq sooner and the NSA spy-on-everyone program would be a bad memory of dark years of the Frat Boy and the Big Dick, who would have been tried and convicted by now in federal court of torture and other war crimes along with Rummy, Dr. Rice, Gonzo and a swath of other crooked and sadistic bastards who served under them. Speaking of crooked bastards, Legs Dimon and Pretty Boy Lloyd would now be appealing their convictions on a gazillion counts of banking fraud and I would singing the praises of Eric Holder and Lanny Breuer instead of throwing them under the bus as they richly deserve. Much of what I got was really what I was expected of a Clinton presidency, or even a McCain presidency.

I am delighted that we got some health care reform, though not as much as hoped for or needed, and, although as a humanist I am a little embarrassed to admit it but I am really delighted that Osama bin Laden is dead, dead, dead. I can't say I shed any tears over him.

Much of what I had hoped for wasn't forthcoming because the Republicans in Congress, a pack of racist, misogynist, Koch addled sociopaths who want nothing more than to kill the black man's mule and dump manure in his well and punish Americans for voting for him twice. They made damned sure there was no recovery.

So, in 2015, I'm feeling right where I did in 2007, dreading a presidencial race between Hillary Clinton and an actual Republican. The announcement of Bernie Sanders' candidacy reminds of a glimmer of optimism I felt just after turning 16, in November 1967, when Seantor Gene McCarthy announced that he would challenge President Johnson in the Democratic primaries starting with New Hampshire. The 1968 presidential race was shaping up at that time as being between LBJ, who blundered us into Vietnam, and Richard Nixon, who wasn't perceived as being in any hurry to get us out. Vietnam wasn't just a foreign policy blunder to me, but a threat to my life as my 18th birthday approached with no end of the war in sight. Tonight, I am a sixty-three year old man facing my 65th birthday listening to bastards like Paul Ryan suggesting that I've been laying in a hammock and America doesn't owe me the Social Security I paid into.

I served in the US Army after the Vietnam war was over in order duck the recession in the mid-seventies. As we used to say in the Army, Congressman Ryan, FOAD. I am so glad that now Senator Sanders is running against the folly of neoliberalism (or Reaganomics, trickle-down economics, the Third Way or whatever you call that folly) as I was forty-eight years ago when Senator McCarthy ran against the folly of the war in Vietnam.

sabrina 1 (52,524 posts)
15. Lots of former Liberal heroes are under buses for a few here. But for most, that is not the case.

Sometimes people just ignore them, because anyone who would throw good Democrats away because they speak the truth, isn't worth worrying about, imo.

If we were to make a list, to those few it would include almost every, single respected journalist, Democrat, most of the base, and whenever I have asked for recommendations as to who CAN we trust, I get no answer.

Bernie is doing far better than anyone anticipated, even those who asked him to enter the race.

Those who don't support him thought it would easy to dismiss him.

That isn't happening so they are feeling threatened.

I take that as a good sign for Bernie. No one is going to after someone who is insignificant.

 

nationalize the fed (1,193 posts)
24. + a few billion

The Obama presidency has destroyed the party. It used to favor unions, healthcare, pensions, teachers, public education, environmentalism, and living wage. Now a look around shows favor of corporations, corporate health insurance, 401k's, busting teacher unions, profitized education, fracking, offshore drilling, and Bangladesh-level wages - the Turd Way. They're happy to get trounced at the polls as long as no one insults Obama (now Clinton).

A perfect summation of the last 6 1/2 years.

Clinton took a baseball bat to the progressives knees and now this Obama character has shoved a knife into the back. It's been disgusting to watch. 

Yeah- both Billy Clinton and Barry the wonder child are hard core RW-ers.

JI7 (51,164 posts)
51. isn't this the one that wants to get rid of the african american forum on a democratic website

i guess we know why they wish to go back to the "good ole days" when certain people were kept in their place.

 

Number23 (18,088 posts)
55. I wouldn't doubt it. Not that he's the only one pining for the Good Old Days around here

I mean anyone that can look at the president's 80+% approval rating from Democrats -- and with some members of the Democratic base, the number is actually closer to 90% -- and conclude that this wildly popular and beloved person has "destroyed" the Democratic party is just too isolated from reality and too far away from the truth to be taken even the tiniest bit seriously.

Add on the "pining" for the Good Old Days (for white men) and the open disrespect for minorities and that just takes things to a whole 'nother level. 

hifiguy (20,980 posts)
30. There seems to be a semi-organized effort to slander Sanders as, of all things, a crypto-racist and too oriented towards economic issues at the expense of social issues. And even his commitment to "social issues" has been impliedly questioned. Really? REALLY?

To see those kinds of lies on DU is vomit-inducing.

crypto-racists? 

liberal_at_heart (9,404 posts)
50. It's like DU has become the new FOX news where lies are considered truth and actual facts are ignored. We're in bizarro world.

ibegurpard (11,082 posts)
40. Remember Wesley Clark?

The manufactured faux-grassroots candidate promoted to take the wind out of Dean's sails? That's when these kinds of efforts started on DU. I've gotten to the point where I just find it amusing to watch the usual suspects take sides.

sadoldgirl (1,093 posts)
53. There is a question that will not be easy

to answer. If HRC will try to "left out Bernie",that means
she has to disagree with some of Obama's policies.
If so, what will the Obama admirers do?

Go for Clinton, because that would be the future?
Stick to Obama's policies, because they want to
support him to the end?

I happen to think there will be a lot of waffling,
but prove me wrong!

Willy never returns to comment- way past his drinking time anyway. Hell- I am not even sure what the OP was about...

[Big Dog]

Jack Rabbit

Much of what I had hoped for wasn't forthcoming because the Republicans in Congress, a pack of racist, misogynist, Koch addled sociopaths who want nothing more than to kill the black man's mule and dump manure in his well and punish Americans for voting for him twice. They made damned sure there was no recovery.

This DUmmy wants to say something, but his mixed metaphors are straight out of gNadinland.

He appears to believe that the Presidency is King Putt "40 acres and a mule". But... since King Putt is not the descendent of a Civil War slave, that wouldn't apply to him.

He also appears to believe that the Congress is all-powerful, and the Presidency is the weakest third of the Federal triumvirate... except for the DU's default position that Booooosh was all-powerful, and the Democrat-controlled Congress was the weakest third. Maybe the primitive was saying that Republicans are omnipotent no matter which branch they control, and Donks are always weak sisters.

liberal_at_heart

It's like DU has become the new FOX news where lies are considered truth and actual facts are ignored. We're in bizarro world.

"Actual facts", courtesy of Rachel Maddow, Talking Points Memo, and NPR. Primitives live in Bizarro world.

Tip for the primitives: Think, then write.

[SVPete]

When people live a a world of hatred it poisons relationships with those who should be their friends. This kind of squabbling-made-large is the fruit of all those years of hysterically hating Reagan, Bush, Bush, and others.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I think the important thing we've learned here today is:

There are actually moments in William Whoreson's life between being blackout drunk where he can remember things.

[thundley4]

Mineralman
Some doubt that he can win, and that's a valid issue in a Presidential race. Many people will vote on that basis in the primaries, and political planners and major contributors take that very seriously in their considerations.

Blind squirrel + nut...  Her we have a DUmmie admitting something that all sane people have known for years. Socialist candidates and their beliefs are far from being mainstream.  Most of the DUmmies likes what Sanders believes in, but normal people don't.

[obumazombie]

Willy Pitt probably eats Pepperidge Farm goldfish as a bar snack when he is out carousing.
Doesn't he know that's a 1%er snack ?

[zeitgeist]

Great find. I know a few long standing Dems who share this sentiment.

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nationalize the fed (1,193 posts)
24. + a few billion

The Obama presidency has destroyed the party. It used to favor unions, healthcare, pensions, teachers, public education, environmentalism, and living wage. Now a look around shows favor of corporations, corporate health insurance, 401k's, busting teacher unions, profitized education, fracking, offshore drilling, and Bangladesh-level wages - the Turd Way. They're happy to get trounced at the polls as long as no one insults Obama (now Clinton). 

A perfect summation of the last 6 1/2 years.

Clinton took a baseball bat to the progressives knees and now this Obama character has shoved a knife into the back. It's been disgusting to watch. 

I don't recognize this particular primitive but his time probably grows short and wee if he continues speaking truth to power.   

Also,  I have run into more than a few x'ers and millennials who are trending libertarian. They are displaying zero interest in the elderly socialist.     

[Ralph Wiggum]

Jeez, and recall that they LOVED Nader until he "cost" Algore & Jerry the Presidential elections.

[obumazombie]

Jeez, and recall that they LOVED Nader until he "cost" Algore & Jerry the Presidential elections.

They loved Perot though.

[Ralph Wiggum]

They loved Perot though.

Sure, that's how Clinton won.

[RayRaytheSBS]

The post that irritated me the most was the Jack Rabbit DUche. His long tirade had this little nugget buried in it:

he 1968 presidential race was shaping up at that time as being between LBJ, who blundered us into Vietnam, and Richard Nixon, who wasn't perceived as being in any hurry to get us out. Vietnam wasn't just a foreign policy blunder to me, but a threat to my life as my 18th birthday approached with no end of the war in sight. Tonight, I am a sixty-three year old man facing my 65th birthday listening to bastards like Paul Ryan suggesting that I've been laying in a hammock and America doesn't owe me the Social Security I paid into.

I served in the US Army after the Vietnam war was over in order duck the recession in the mid-seventies. As we used to say in the Army, Congressman Ryan, FOAD.

This oxyven-thieving DUche admits he joined  the army after any chance of him seeing combat was over... So he could wage war on the recession.

That to me shows how morally backwards the DUches are. Jack Rabbit, how about you take some of your own advice and FOAD.