DUmp tries to disprove Rush.

[Carl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026589088

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:04 PM

Star Member geek tragedy (45,446 posts)

Rush Limbaugh says Clinton Foundation spends just 15 percent on charity, 85 percent on overhead
Some 'populists' at DU have been posting/recommending this Limbaugh accusation as if it were true, so here's the reality (spoiler alert: Limbaugh and the Clinton Haters are full of it)

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/apr/29/rush-limbaugh/rush-limbaugh-says-clinton-foundation-spends-just-/

W

hen most people in the charitable world think of foundations, they think of organizations that give away a lot of money in the form of grants to others who go out and do good works. The Clinton foundation works differently -- it keeps its money in house and hires staff to carry out its own humanitarian programs.

...

Our ruling

Limbaugh said "85 percent of every dollar donated to the Clinton Foundation ended up either with the Clintons or with their staff to pay for travel, salaries, and benefits. Fifteen cents of every dollar actually went to some charitable beneficiary."

There’s a grain of truth here -- roughly 85 percent of the foundation’s spending was for items other than charitable grants to other organizations, and a large chunk of this 85 percent did go to Clinton Foundation staff for travel, salaries and benefits. However, the foundation says it does most of its charitable work in-house, and it’s not credible to think that the foundation spent zero dollars beyond grants on any charitable work, which is what it would take for Limbaugh to be correct.

The claim contains some element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression, so we rate it Mostly False.

In other words they said so. 

Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:07 PM

Buzz Clik (31,465 posts)
2. Hey. Sphincter cyst spends one day per year on his charity.

Now buzzy,you seem so sensitive here,why would you say such a mean and ugly thing.

Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:09 PM

Star Member former9thward (14,370 posts)
3. You didn't post their tax return so I will.

Most of the money goes to salaries and overhead.

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/sites/default/files/clinton_foundation_report_public_11-19-14.pdf

Whoops. 

Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:12 PM

Star Member Quackers (329 posts)
5. I really don't know one way or the other.

This is the first I've heard of it. I do have a question though. It states that most of the 85% went to travel, salaries, and benefits but the foundation claims it does most of its charitable work in-house. Shouldn't the foundation have a breakdown of that 85% to show exactly what went to benefits, salaries, travel, and in-house charity work? A statement like that would shut the whole argument down

The Clintons being truthful and forthcoming??

Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:14 PM

Star Member jwirr (29,187 posts)
6. There is an easy way to put a stop to this. Go to one of those charity rating sights and release the

figures.

Response to jwirr (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:18 PM

Star Member geek tragedy (45,449 posts)
11. No, there is no easy way to stop Limbaugh and his fellow Clinton haters from spreading horseshit

on the Internet.

P.S. From the link:

Partly because of that, one of the leading independent groups that track charities -- Charity Navigator -- has been flummoxed about how to analyze that foundation and has stopped rating it, at least for now.

Charity Navigator says it has "determined that this charity's atypical business model cannot be accurately captured in our current rating methodology. Our removal of The Clinton Foundation from our site is neither a condemnation nor an endorsement of this charity. We reserve the right to reinstate a rating for The Clinton Foundation as soon as we identify a rating methodology that appropriately captures its business model."

The easy way is to not believe shit that Rush Limbaugh and his ilk are saying.

 

[FlaGator]

I would point this out to the OP

American Red Cross
The do-gooders at the American Red Cross do a good job of spending your money when you donate. They manage to keep administrative expenses at less than 5% of their total overhead, and they spend 92.1% of their income on actual programs that benefit the community. Whether it's teacher CPR, or managing crisis during the aftermath of a disaster, the Red Cross puts your money to good use.

The Red Cross which has a lot more overhead than the Clinton Foundation spends less that 5% of donations on administrative overhead. The Clinton Foundation isn't a charity, it's a campaign war chest.

Source for info http://charity.lovetoknow.com/What_Percentage_of_Donations_Go_to_Charity

[txradioguy]

It really irks them when Rush is right and they can't dispel the truth he delivers.

Oh and Buzzy...Rush raises more in that one day fund raiser...in 3 hours than the Clintons do via legit donations in a year.

And unlike the the two Hillbilly Hucksters he doesn't take a dime from those donations.

Suck it turd.

[Carl]

It really irks them when Rush is right and they can't dispel the truth he delivers.

Oh and Buzzy...Rush raises more in that one day fund raiser...in 3 hours than the Clintons do via legit donations in a year.

And unlike the the two Hillbilly Hucksters he doesn't take a dime from those donations.

Suck it turd.

 

[Gina]

It really irks them when Rush is right and they can't dispel the truth he delivers.

Oh and Buzzy...Rush raises more in that one day fund raiser...in 3 hours than the Clintons do via legit donations in a year.And unlike the the two Hillbilly Hucksters he doesn't take a dime from those donations.

Suck it turd.

Just in case they missed that portion.

[txradioguy]

Just in case they missed that portion.

They'll ignore that fact like they do other painful facts that destroy their propaganda.

[JohnnyReb]

The claim contains some element of truth but ignores critical facts....when did DUmmies start dealing in facts?

[txradioguy]

Shouldn't the foundation have a breakdown of that 85% to show exactly what went to benefits, salaries, travel, and in-house charity work? A statement like that would shut the whole argument down

 

[JakeStyle]

Until two weeks ago, http://www.charitynavigator.org/ gave the Clinton Foundation a very poor overall rating, and a poor accountability & transparency warning.  Then they suddenly deleted their evaluation and replaced it with this message:

"We don't evaluate Bill Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation.
Why not? We have determined that this charity's atypical business model cannot be accurately captured in our current rating methodology."

[jukin]

I hate to agree with a DUchebag but Rush is wrong on that. The Clinton Foundation does not pay out 15% to the actual needs, they pay out 6%.

The Clinton Foundation is a criminal organization disguised as a charity.

[landofconfusion80]

To be fair, Hillary did say they left the White House broke and in debt.... how else are they going to keep Bill in cigars and hookers?  Donate today!

[GOBUCKS]

This is why every professional athlete from the hood has a "foundation".

It's a tax-deductible way to give money to deadbeat family members, supplemented by any donations they can scam from the public.

[Delmar]

However, the foundation says it does most of its charitable work in-house

Charity begins at home for the Clintons.

 

Charity begins at home.
Prov. You should take care of family and people close to you before you worry about helping others.

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Charity+begins+at+home

[98ZJUSMC]

Star Member Quackers (329 posts)
5. I really don't know one way or the other

No.  You don't WANT to know and wouldn't admit it if you did.

[98ZJUSMC]

I hate to agree with a DUchebag but Rush is wrong on that. The Clinton Foundation does not pay out 15% to the actual needs, they pay out 6%.

The Clinton Foundation is a criminal organization disguised as a charity.

That's the figure I heard and, well, look at that? 

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=356435

The have a mirror organization in .....Sweden?!?!?

and the UK!

[J P Sousa]

Until two weeks ago, http://www.charitynavigator.org/ gave the Clinton Foundation a very poor overall rating, and a poor accountability & transparency warning.  Then they suddenly deleted their evaluation and replaced it with this message:

"We don't evaluate Bill Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation.
Why not? We have determined that this charity's atypical business model cannot be accurately captured in our current rating methodology."

Another name for SCAM ?

[GOBUCKS]

The Clinton Foundation does not pay out 15% to the actual needs, they pay out 6%.

And that's a pretty normal distribution of funds for charitable foundations, most of which are scams.

[BuzzClik]

Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:29 PM

Buzz Clik (31,499 posts)

73. Limbaugh vs Clintons: charitable giving

Limbaugh is fairly generous in his direct give to charity, and he sponsors charitable drives. Limbaugh annually gives hundreds of thousands of dollars every year to the leukemia foundation, which is fantastic. Limbaugh's EIB Cure-a-Thon has raised a total of $15 million since 2006, which is also very nice.

The Clinton Foundation direct gifts were $75 million over 5 years (2009-2013), or $15 million per year. In direct giving, the Clintons have given $10.2 million over the past eight years.

Both are generous, but if one must compare:

Direct giving:

• Limbaugh: $4 million (appx) over the past eight years.
  
• Clintons: $10.2 over the past eight years

Charitable fund raising:

• Limbaugh: $1.5 million per year
  
• Clintons: $15 million per year

[delilahmused]

It really irks them when Rush is right and they can't dispel the truth he delivers.

Oh and Buzzy...Rush raises more in that one day fund raiser...in 3 hours than the Clintons do via legit donations in a year.

And unlike the the two Hillbilly Hucksters he doesn't take a dime from those donations.

Suck it turd.

Actually, he gives to the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation through his tea business and his books too, I think.

Cindie

[Ptarmigan]

The claim contains some element of truth but ignores critical facts....when did DUmmies start dealing in facts?

DUmmies hate facts.

[obumazombie]

Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:14 PM

Star Member jwirr (29,187 posts)
6. There is an easy way to put a stop to this. Go to one of those charity rating sights and release the

figures.

That sight is a site for sore eyes.

[txradioguy]

Oh look who's back.  The attention whore.

Got a link for your little stats you posted up there Buzzy?

Also...and this is important to note as I posted earler...Rush doesn't use one penny of the money raised to fight Blood Cancers on his three hour radio-thon for his own personal use or enrichment.

Not the same with the HillBilly Hucksters.

[txradioguy]

Actually, he gives to the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation through his tea business and his books too, I think.

Cindie

Yeah there is that too that I forgot about.

What I'm talking about and what BuzzDick is referring to...is the once a year 3 hour radio-thon Rush does to raise money for the fight against blood cancers.

That one day of giving for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society has raised $40 million since it started.  And this year Rush donated $600K personally.

[BuzzClik]

Got a link for your little stats you posted up there Buzzy?

In the original post.

Oh and Buzzy...Rush raises more in that one day fund raiser...in 3 hours than the Clintons do via legit donations in a year.

Link?

[txradioguy]

Link?

One thing you DUmmies that come over here never seem to learn is that when I make statements...unlike you Libtards...I can back up what I say.

Results of the 2015 Cure-a-thon haven't been tallied yet.  Here's transcript from his show thta lists the total from the 2014 Cure-a-thon  Remember 3 hours one day a year.

A Leukemia & Lymphoma Cure-A-Thon Thank You
April 15, 2014

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH:  This is Ryan in Chattanooga, Tennessee.  Welcome.  I'm glad you called, sir.

CALLER:  Hi, Rush.  I just want to tell you: It's a real, real honor to be able to talk to you.

RUSH:  Thank you very much, sir.  I appreciate it.

CALLER:   I called in just because I wasn't able to hear yesterday's episode and did not get to hear the results from Friday, as far as the amount of money raised for the Cure-A-Thon.

RUSH:  Well, we set a record.  It was just overwhelming.  With the weekend and everything, we ended up over $3.1 million.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/04/15/a_leukemia_lymphoma_cure_a_thon_thank_you

Last year includes a $500k individual donation from Rush and his wife.

That doesn't include a 4.2 million dollar one time donation to the Marine Corps-law Enforcement Foundation and the continuing donation of profits from his line of Tea's that he sells online.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Corps%E2%80%93Law_Enforcement_Foundation

As for the HillBilly Hucksters...well...

After earning more than $109 million over eight years, the Clintons took tax write-offs for $10.2 million in charitable contributions. In most of those years, that money was donated to the Clinton Family Foundation, and a portion was distributed to charitable causes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/04/05/ST2008040502593.html

The biggest recipient of the chairitable donations...was themselves.

Buzz Clik (31,499 posts)

73. Limbaugh vs Clintons: charitable giving

Limbaugh is fairly generous in his direct give to charity, and he sponsors charitable drives. Limbaugh annually gives hundreds of thousands of dollars every year to the leukemia foundation, which is fantastic. Limbaugh's EIB Cure-a-Thon has raised a total of $15 million since 2006, which is also very nice.

Nice of you to leave out the TOTAL dollar amount thta has been raised by this one day once a year cure-a-thon...whi is in excess of $44 million.

Direct giving:

Limbaugh: $4 million (appx) over the past eight years.

Clintons: $10.2 over the past eight years

His one time $4 million donation to the MCLEF show this stat you posted to be a lie.  Then add in the $500K ($600K this year) donations he's given over the "past 8 years" you cite in your post...and again...you're just not in control of the facts Buzzy.  He's in excess of the 10.2 million dollar mark you cite for the HillBilly Hucksters.

Charitable fund raising:

Limbaugh: $1.5 million per year

Clintons: $15 million per year

There is nothing factualy anywhere to substantiate your bogus claim. 

You really should do math in public of shill for these frauds where there are people capable of destroying your propaganda.

Unless you just enjoy public humiliation.

BTW...I thought you said you were leaving and not coming back?

Looks like I called that one too.  You Libs are so predictable.