Clinton Scandals Have Achieved Political Mass

[libertybele]

I think it's over for Clinton; perhaps she will face even criminal charges and rightfully so.  The list continues. Unfortunately, I think you will see Warren get the nomination.  IMO she is even more to the left than Obama 

For Hillary Clinton, Scandals Have Achieved Critical Mass

Ethics: With each day, new revelations call into question Hillary Clinton's behavior during her tenure as secretary of state and after. It's time for her to suspend her campaign and start answering questions.

When even the left-wing media notice a leading Democrat's apparent ethical lapses, she has a real problem. And so does the Democratic Party, which as of now has all its bets for 2016 placed on Hillary Clinton, who, Peter Schweizer's upcoming book "Clinton Cash" suggests, may have engaged in corrupt behavior in office.

The latest revelation is a potential bombshell: That while Clinton was secretary of state, a federal committee approved the $610 million sale of Wyoming-based uranium mines to Russia's state atomic energy agency, Rosatom, as it tried to corner the market for the radioactive mineral.

Clinton's State Department was one of those that approved the deal. That's not illegal, but there's a conflict: The chairman of Uranium One, the Canadian company that sold the uranium mines to Russia, was Ian Telfer, who gave $2.4 million to the Clinton Foundation.

That's not all. The New York Times notes that a Russian investment bank that was behind the deal paid Bill Clinton $500,000 for a speech in Moscow.

It also should be noted that the Wyoming mine is no small operation, and that Rosatom makes nuclear weapons, among other things. So national security is at stake.

Nor is this the only whiff of potential scandal emanating from the Clinton Foundation.

Starting in 2010, the Clinton charity told the IRS for three years running that it got nothing from foreign or U.S. governments. That was strange, since in years past it had reported tens of millions in contributions.

Oops! Now they've found "errors" in their IRS reports, and want to refile. Seems they now remember that a number of foreign governments gave them tens of millions of dollars during that time.

Coming on the heels of other major scandals involving Bill and Hillary Clinton, a mosaic of corruption is falling into place that's beyond troubling and might even require a special criminal investigation.

Just this week, Judicial Watch said it has received 126 pages of State Department documents that relate to possible conflicts of interest while Hillary was our nation's top diplomat. In particular, it cites "questions about funds Clinton accepted from entities linked to Saudi Arabia, China and Iran, among others."...

Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/042315-749396-why-does-clinton-run-when-questions-abound-about-her-ethics-.htm#ixzz3YEeg0FeG

[DumbAss Tanker]

Don't count on it.  Through the decades, the Clintons have never used any strategy toward the reams of misconduct and/or criminal allegations against them except brazening it out, lying their way all the way through any scrutiny, and then blaming any bad outcome on the opposition while throwing a lot of their own people under the bus.  She could be 29 years into a 30 year sentence in prison and would still adamantly deny any fault or culpability.

[Eupher]

Don't count on it.  Through the decades, the Clintons have never used any strategy toward the reams of misconduct and/or criminal allegations against them except brazening it out, lying their way all the way through any scrutiny, and then blaming any bad outcome on the opposition while throwing a lot of their own people under the bus.  She could be 29 years into a 30 year sentence in prison and would still adamantly deny any fault or culpability.

Lie, obfuscate, deny. Those are the three Clintonian Principles.

She need not worry about any jail time, though. Barry will pardon her. Just about the time the grand jury has completed its work and issues an indictment would be right around December 2016 when Barry starts forming his list of people to exonerate in his last, outgoing anal rape of this country.

[libertybele]

Lie, obfuscate, deny. Those are the three Clintonian Principles.

She need not worry about any jail time, though. Barry will pardon her. Just about the time the grand jury has completed its work and issues an indictment would be right around December 2016 when Barry starts forming his list of people to exonerate in his last, outgoing anal rape of this country.

Ultimately, I hope there's enough dissension in the party from all the scandals that she decides to suspend her campaign indefinitely.  Then after Barry makes his exit press charges against Hillary.

[obumazombie]

Lie, obfuscate, deny. Those are the three Clintonian Principles.

She need not worry about any jail time, though. Barry will pardon her. Just about the time the grand jury has completed its work and issues an indictment would be right around December 2016 when Barry starts forming his list of people to exonerate in his last, outgoing anal rape of this country.

Don't forget counter accuse.
Per capita it's their most powerful weapon.

[Eupher]

Ultimately, I hope there's enough dissension in the party from all the scandals that she decides to suspend her campaign indefinitely.  Then after Barry makes his exit press charges against Hillary.

But Barry could very well pardon Hillary -- "for the sake of the country" -- and that takes all the wind out of all their sails.

[obumazombie]

They have achieved political and critical mass.

libertybele rightly points out that Hitlery sold uranium to Iran, and she did it almost as directly as stated...

The controversy surrounding the Clinton Foundation’s donations has raised the question as to whether or not they affected the State Department’s decision to approve the sale of a Canadian uranium-mining company to the Russians.


MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell expressed optimism on Thursday's Morning Joe that we will learn the truth because there is likely, “an advisory chain of e-mail in the State Department that can tell us exactly how this decision was made.”

He wasn’t kidding.

The shock of O'Donnell's statement was so powerful Joe Scarborough had to make sure that it wasn’t a sick joke.

“The e-mail chain?

You, are you being sarcastic?
Are you being sarcastic?

Because we don’t have...Hillary Clinton’s emails.”

O’Donnell doubled down, “Look, we’re going to get a lot of it. We will get a lot of that e-mail cause obviously there will be an investigation of this.”
In light of the fact that Hillary deleted her e-mails, one is tempted to conclude that no one has taught O’Donnell basic computer science:

once you delete something it is gone.
Forever.

More likely Lawrence is assuming that Hillary would have had to consider it “State Department” material rather than “personal.”

Considering Hillary’s connection to the Canadian miners took the form of an undisclosed donations to the Clinton Foundation, it's a bit sad to witness the desperation of Larry’s childlike hope. 

full article...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/bryan-ballas/2015/04/23/are-you-being-sarcastic-lawrence-odonnell-says-e-mail-chain-will#sthash.7i6ULSu3.dpuf





With Americans like Hitlery, who needs mortal enemies ?

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[Eupher]

They have achieved political and critical mass.

Barry will likely emulate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LySpUpI9k1s

[thundley4]

December 2016 when Barry starts forming his list of people to exonerate in his last, outgoing anal rape of this country.

I've already thought about Barry and his pardon powers.  IIRC, he is limited to pardoning federal prisoners.  That includes a boatload of minorities and illegals on drug charges.

Barry has already shown he is willing to pardon drug dealers and is willing to allow criminal immigrants run loose.

[SVPete]

As Mark Levin pointed out on-air yesterday, HRC was one of seven cabinet secretaries who had to approve this deal. In bringing The Chill to book on this, the Rs need to keep in mind that we are stuck with BHO for nearly two more years. The Rs need to clear out as many corrupt/inept BHO cabinet secretaries as possible.

BHO needs to be forced to: protect or hyper-vehiculate his cabinet secretaries; tell, repeatedly, the utterly non-credible lie that he knew nothing of the deal.

[libertybele]

It is my understanding that Barry can only pardon her as long as he is president.  He won't have that power once he leaves office. Secondly, she holds no political office right now and is a civilian; so I'm not so sure he would have the authority to pardon her.  Remember -- the emerging scandals coming out surrounding her "Foundation" is only one of many.  This is just the most recent.  She (and Obama) could still very well be prosecuted for the Fast 'n Furious and Benghazi.  The group "Judicial Watch" is still continuing the investigation on Benghazi as well as the House is still determining what to do about the deleted e-mails. 

I am hoping that eventually at the very least she will be forced to suspend her campaign indefinitely.  I think that she took a huge gamble by running in the first place.  She could have decided not to run and she would have brought less focus on her and her family and perhaps the information on the Foundation wouldn't have emerged at all.  I think she was betting on running and becoming president with all of her money, thereby avoiding any prosecution for her wrong doings.

Granted the Clintons have not only achieved global political support but have amassed an extraordinary amount of money and she is planning on spending over 2 Billion on her campaign as well as they have never been held accountable or responsible in the past, but, maybe just once, justice will prevail over the Clinton money.

[DumbAss Tanker]

It is my understanding that Barry can only pardon her as long as he is president.  He won't have that power once he leaves office. Secondly, she holds no political office right now and is a civilian; so I'm not so sure he would have the authority to pardon her.  Remember -- the emerging scandals coming out surrounding her "Foundation" is only one of many.  This is just the most recent.  She (and Obama) could still very well be prosecuted for the Fast 'n Furious and Benghazi.  The group "Judicial Watch" is still continuing the investigation on Benghazi as well as the House is still determining what to do about the deleted e-mails. 

I am hoping that eventually at the very least she will be forced to suspend her campaign indefinitely.  I think that she took a huge gamble by running in the first place.  She could have decided not to run and she would have brought less focus on her and her family and perhaps the information on the Foundation wouldn't have emerged at all.  I think she was betting on running and becoming president with all of her money, thereby avoiding any prosecution for her wrong doings.

Granted the Clintons have not only achieved global political support but have amassed an extraordinary amount of money and she is planning on spending over 2 Billion on her campaign as well as they have never been held accountable or responsible in the past, but, maybe just once, justice will prevail over the Clinton money.

A Presidential pardon can cover her involvement in the entire incident, investigated or not, whether it's ever been charged or not, and can even be of a dead person.  The fact she is not an officeholder has nothing to do with it, nor would citizenship. 

However, the reason it likely won't come up unless she actually drops out of the race and is really facing prosecution is because accepting a pardon is legally construed to be an admission of guilt, which is why people who are pardoned from a felony conviction are still regarded as convicted felons by the ATFE for National Firearms Act and Gun Control Act of 1968 purposes.

[libertybele]

It would make sense then that it would be beneficial for any charges that may be brought against her wait until after Obama leaves office.  I would think that if Obama were to come forward now and pardon her from any wrongdoing without her actually being charged certainly wouldn't be good for her campaign either.  Of course with Barry, you never quite know what he has up his sleeve in any situation.

"The president of the United States has nearly unlimited power to grant pardons and override the criminal-justice system at his sole discretion. The power is granted by Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, which gives the president "power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment." The presidential power to pardon cannot be limited by any other branch of government...

Read more : http://www.ehow.com/about_4928054_presidential-pardons.html

Presidential Pardons Legal Guidelines;  So if I am interpreting what these guidelines state, ultimately Clinton would have to apply for a pardon and the attorney general would have to  approve the pardon to be worthy of submission to the president.  Unfortunately, it doesn't seem at this point any reality that Hillary would be held responsible or accountable if charged.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/blprespardons.htm

[DumbAss Tanker]

I believe the pardon would only be offered and accepted long after she was forced to pull out of the race, an outcome which I regard as improbable and totally contrary to her nature, her approach will be to brazen it out and count on a pro-Democrat press to ultimately dismiss it.  If she was forced to withdraw, however, then she might seek and accept one.

Any pardon offer and acceptance would be coordinated behind the scenes between the two camps long before it became fact, and it would only ever surface if both the Clintons and Obama found it to be advantageous.

At the point she finally would throw in the towel, though, the election would be much closer than it is now, and Obama (With the advice of his political consiglieri like Jarrett, would be much less willing to offer her one, since it would very likely damage the Democrat brand for whoever DID replace her on the Democrat ticket.

It's an interesting conundrum, she could get completely off the hook now without doing irretrievable damage to the Dems next year and the books on everything would remain closed, so the White House could support extending it.  However, she would never accept under current conditions since brazening it out and playing every partisan card has yet to fail for her or Bill.  Yet, at the point where she might be willing to cut her losses and accept a pardon, the White House would be much less likely to be willing to offer one.

The pardon power is somewhat more sweeping than the excerpt you quote implies.  The excerpt covers the typical procedure for Federal convicts, but it is ultimately a plenary power of the President, unbounded by any other branch or agency, and he can reach out and pardon a person for any acts or involvement in transactions whether they have ever become public or not, ignoring any rules that normally apply to those seeking pardons.  Some examples are Ford's pardon of Nixon, Carter's pardon of draft dodgers (Really an amnesty, but it relied on the pardon power*) .

*The Constitutional provision on the power says 'Pardon,' which does imply the commission of an offense and an admission of guilt in acceptance.  But, where the person was never actually convicted of anything or even charged at all, like the draft dodgers, it's really more like a transactional immunity, where the person can't ever be touched by the Federal courts afterward for anything related to the whole event...about like Cardinal Richelieu's warrant in The Three Musketeers.  It's pretty arguable that the pardon power was intended to extend that far, however the granting of transactional immunity is also an Executive prerogative, so although perhaps a misnomer, the use of Presidential pardons to grant amnesty to people who have never been charged with anything has not, and won't be, challenged in court. 

[Eupher]

The "pardon" I was mostly thinking of was Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon who, while neither having been impeached nor convicted, was definitely headed for both of those. Ford headed all that off at the pass within a month or so after he took office, and it was probably the biggest reason he lost the 1976 presidential election to Carter.

[libertybele]

So at this point, it seems that the most see that nothing will be done.  I'm still hopeful that somehow the Clinton's corruption will be halted or at least stifled in some way.  I also see that Obama has to be very careful as to what he does and how he reacts in order to keep from revealing any involvement that he may have.  So far, he has let her take all the heat for Benghazi. The appointment of Loretta Lynch is certainly suspect even more so.

In my opinion, certainly it seems that the questions surrounding her actions breaching national security bares further investigation as well.  It sure seems treasonous to me.

Right now Judicial Watch is also investigating the "Clinton Cash" and also Bill's involvement with the Saudi's.

So, they have the DOJ (I know big deal)  watching them, possibly the House subpoenaing her private server, Judical Watch investigating, and the "Clinton Cash" book and Fox News segment.

This is a lot of heat coming from more than one source.  I don't look for any of this to go away anytime soon for her and feel that it will hamper her chances of getting the nomination.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/

[DumbAss Tanker]

As long as an Obama appointee is AG, there will be no serious criminal investigation or movement toward charges, and since she isn't an officeholder, any Congressional inquiry is just a fact-finding procedure that can't actually charge her with anything.  This would be a great case for a special counsel appointment, but I don't think there are enough solid votes in Congress to do it because they would be too skittish about the idea that the press making it look like it was purely a partisan move.  The best thing from their point of view at this point is to beat on the fact-finding and keep it in the news, and for the GOP candidates to continue to beat on the 'Quacks like a duck' and 'Smoke/Fire' drums, calling it out and taking advantage of there being no investigation result that clears her, combined with her own complicity in the destruction of all possible evidence.