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Offline CC27

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Cyrano can't understand
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:01:33 PM »
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Star Member Cyrano (8,567 posts)

Here’s why we can’t understand Republican voters


Many Republican voters just aren’t tuned in. We think that they are imbeciles, bigots, or both, and many are. However, a great many of them are just not paying attention most of the time.

We here at DU tend to follow politics daily and are well aware of what's going on. Most people only follow politics around election time, and even then, only pay attention to the news/cable stations that reinforce their preconceived beliefs/biases.

Republican “packaging,” or “framing of issues,” is so well crafted, that our values and ideas rarely make it through the media filter. (A filter we must find a way to either match, or break.)

We can’t reach those who actually agree with Republican “values.” But we can hold out hope of reaching those that have been duped by GOP lies.

The only products Republicans have to sell is what they’re against – (hatred and fear are great motivators).

We have a superior product – it’s what we’re for. We need to find a way to get heard by those who are voting against their own interests.

HAHAHAHA  :rotf:

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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2015, 04:05:48 PM »
Oh gawd, can't they come up with something new?

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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2015, 04:11:36 PM »
They just haven't come up with the right message (lies) to dupe those ignorant Republicans.  Makes no sense, Grubers tactics worked great on the "stupid" democratick voters.
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2015, 04:19:24 PM »
That mentality is why every time one of the mutts shows up here they get their ass handed to them.
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2015, 04:21:51 PM »
Quote from: Carl on April 07, 2015, 04:19:24 PM
That mentality is why every time one of the mutts shows up here they get their ass handed to them.

Even the "intellectuals".

Which makes you wonder that if Alexandra Kelly Bainsbane and Buzzy are their best and brightest, what must that make the rest of them?
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2015, 04:31:44 PM »
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Star Member Cyrano (8,567 posts)

Here’s why we can’t understand Republican voters

Many Republican voters just aren't tuned in. We think that they are imbeciles, bigots, or both, and many are. However, a great many of them are just not paying attention most of the time.

Tell me again about the low info voters that put the Dems over the top .  Obama won 95%of the black vote because of racism.

 The Dem base is comprised of low info voters that vote Dem for one reason and one reason only: Free Shit!
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2015, 04:46:10 PM »
It always makes me wonder how people who insist they cannot support themselves and will not defend themselves claim we are the stupid and cowardly.
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2015, 04:49:06 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on April 07, 2015, 04:46:10 PM
It always makes me wonder how people who insist they cannot support themselves and will not defend themselves claim we are the stupid and cowardly.

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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2015, 04:49:13 PM »
What is their product?
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2015, 04:49:19 PM »
oohhh... gawd.   :thatsright:

..and they wonder why we accuse them of projection.

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Republican “packaging,” or “framing of issues,” is so well crafted, that our values and ideas rarely make it through the media filter. (A filter we must find a way to either match, or break.)     :o   Yer shittin' me..

You mentioned something about paying attention?

Retard.....

Quote from: wasp69 on April 07, 2015, 04:49:06 PM

Exactly...
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2015, 04:58:11 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on April 07, 2015, 04:31:44 PM
The Dem base is comprised of low info voters that vote Dem for one reason and one reason only: Free Shit!




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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2015, 05:03:50 PM »
I'm sure glad that people who can never get ahead in life and usually have substance abuse problems know what my best interests really are.
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2015, 07:43:18 PM »
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It always makes me wonder how people who insist they cannot support themselves and will not defend themselves claim we are the stupid and cowardly.

Ain't that the damn truth  :rant:
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2015, 08:40:46 PM »
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Tue Apr 7, 2015, 02:39 PM

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7. There's an underlying pathology, what you describe is a symptom of it.

Republican voters WANT to be told what to do, they want a Daddy (or Mommy) to protect them; they have authoritarian personalities. Because of this, they are unable to think and see more than one side of an issue, they are unable to determine if whether what they're being told is good for them or not.

They fall in lockstep, swallowing the party line without question. They are lazy.

You can`t make this stuff up.
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2015, 08:49:25 PM »
Quote from: Carl on April 07, 2015, 08:40:46 PM
You can`t make this stuff up.
It seems all one has to do to be an adequate mole is to ascribe the Primitives' personality traits  back to them as conservative/Republican. And maybe you'll even get a heart in February.
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2015, 09:10:57 PM »
The Ds' problem is not that Americans do not know what they stand for, but that they do understand what they stand for. To be elected the Ds do not need to communicate who they are, but to disguise who they are.
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2015, 09:27:27 PM »
Weird... whenever they do the videos interviewing voters after an election, the Democrats are the ones who look stupid. 

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skw-0jv9kts[/youtube]
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2015, 07:09:53 PM »
Like 98ZJUSMC would say,
Accuse others of what you do.
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2015, 07:38:37 PM »
In the land of the blind the one eyed jack is king!



[I must now go turn myself in for a racist post]  :rotf:
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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2015, 02:16:33 PM »
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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 02:19 PM

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3. We don't know what we're for.

Democrats judging from the last election, are in favor of winning, and opposed to losing. Otherwise we're sure the Republicans are involved on a War on Women, despite the fact that we were laughed at when we put it out after a very short while. For some reason, despite being supposedly smarter, we were too stupid to realize we needed an issue, or two, besides that to run on.



The audience laughed at her. THEY LAUGHED AT HER. If that doesn't show you the stupidity of making that our campaign centerpiece, then perhaps this will. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/10/13/mark-udall-has-been-dubbed-mark-uterus-on-the-campaign-trail-thats-a-problem/

So what is our superior product, and why don't we run on it. You blame Republican packaging, but they read the polls, and craft their arguments to fit in with the public opinion out there.

The Republicans campaigned against the Job Killing Obamacare. The Job Killing Deficit, the Job Killing tax increases and let's not forget Job Killing Minimum Wage. The only thing they didn't claim would kill jobs was Daylight Savings Time. Our answer?

We claimed it wouldn't cost any jobs. The CBO came out and said yes it would. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/02/18/cbo-minimum-wage-jobs/5582779/

So what happened? We folded, the CBO gave the Republican argument legs, and we didn't have anything left. They looked intelligent and most importantly right on the issues, and we looked stupid and out of touch. We didn't have any studies to counter the CBO. No economists were going to come out and dispute the report. We went from saying no we wouldn't lose jobs, to saying those jobs would come back, eventually. We were caught flat footed and looking stupid.

Pick an issue, and we take the lazy way out with no preparations, no study, and no effort to present our view. Just a handful of stupid bullet points that everyone mouths like some sort of mantra. War on women. Idiots.

This rare bit of introspection went completely ignored. 

I hope Cryano keeps hammering that point about our own best interests, out in real life.  People really love that. 

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Re: Cyrano can't understand
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2015, 02:20:41 PM »
Star Member Savannahmann has something on the ball.
Hard to believe he's a hard core lib & DUmmie.
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