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Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:04:18 AM »
It's almost one of the those uh...duh! moments. A confederate memorial will have 32 'rebel' flags around it. Eh...

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The Sons of Confederate Veterans, the group behind the $50,000-memorial, just ordered the custom-made flag poles, said Marshall Davis, Texas Division spokesman. The group has been raising money for the project for two years and construction has moved along as fund have allowed.
The thirteen columns that represent the states that fought on the side of the Confederacy during the Civil War already stand north of the interstate off Martin Luther King Jr. Drive. The group will add eight flags as soon as the poles come in – though Davis can't estimate when that will be – and the remaining flags will be added in increments of eight as funds allow until all 32 stand around the circular monument, Davis said.
Each flag with have a nameplate and history of the flag.
Locals whose ancestors fought in the Confederate Army or Navy also contributed to the memorial by purchasing bricks at $50, $300 and $500 and benches at $800, according to the group's website.

So these are either CSA National flags, State Flags or historic Battle flags? OK... I guess that would make some sense. I am sure it'll piss off alot of people.

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2. They want a war, they want to own black people. All these teaparty ****s want is a civil war so they can own black people again. They want to own people. And according to the FBI 3 out of the top 4 terrorist concerns in America are AMERICAN homegrown rightwing terrorism. Cant find the chart right now but it was on "Vice" and "Vice" tells it like it is.
 


It's true! I just can't find it right now... (try looking in the Southern Poverty Law Review)

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3. I lived in Mississippi for several years.

You wouldn't believe how many Deep South Republicans believe that if the Confederacy were to return they'd suddenly become modern-day Rhett Butlers and Scarlett O'Haras - at the expense of certain folks of color, of course. It rarely dawns on them most white Southerners were dirt poor in the Antebellum South - often even more so than slaves, who were at least someone's property.

This isn't to say all white Southerners feel that way (on the contrary); but those who disagree typically keep quiet, for fear of being ostracized. The easiest way to get along in today's Deep South is usually to go to church at least twice a week (preferably Baptist), vote for the most racist candidate; and every now and then, whistle Dixie.


 :rotf:  What a shitty bouncy.

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8. And of course...there's a particular and non-racist reason the SCV *had* to put their monument next to Martin Luther King Jr. Drive. - which, as the link upthread will show, is in a lightly-built-up part of Orange.


is it.... becuase the president is black?

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10. I could put a monument ~across the street that would make them think hard about this. n/t

*yawn* sure. sure...

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17. Why did Texas accept it?

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They challenged the license plate. Why not the monument?

Update: I just learned this is private property so Texas can't avoid it. 


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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2015, 04:18:16 AM »
Well, this is certainly something I've never seen here before; the link used as the title.

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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2015, 06:01:49 AM »
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26. The Sons of Confederate Veterans seems to be an advocay group that engages

in "heritage defense" and tries to prevent "heritage violations". It’s also connected to the League of the South.

Here’s an article from the Southern Poverty Law Center on the Sons of Confederate Veterans(written by Mark Potok on Feb 11, 2011):

Once Again, Racism Rears Up in the Sons of Confederate Veterans

For much of the last decade, the Sons of Confederate Veterans (SCV) has been roiled by an internal civil war between racial extremists and those who want to keep the Southern heritage group a kind of history and genealogy club.

It’s beginning to look like the racists won.

First came the news, originally reported on this blog last August, that the SCV was planning a Feb. 19 march down Dexter Avenue here in Montgomery, Ala., to “CELEBRATE THE BEGINNING OF THE CONFEDERACY” and ensure that it “is remembered and portrayed in the right way.” What the SCV meant by “the right way” was made obvious by its website promoting the event, which insists that “the South was right!” and claims that “there is no difference between the invasion of France by Hitler and the invasion of the Southern states by Lincoln.”

And now, from the Mississippi Division of the SCV, comes this new gem: The group wants the state to issue a special license plate, keyed like the Montgomery march to the 150th anniversary of the Civil War, to honor Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest — a millionaire Memphis slave trader before the war, an apparent war criminal who presided over the massacre of surrendering black prisoners at Fort Pillow, Tenn., during it, and the first national leader of the Ku Klux Klan afterward, when the Klan’s terrorist violence paved the way to a Jim Crow South.

I couldn't help but notice that the DUmmie forgot to mention that Nathan Bedford Forrest was a Democrat.

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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2015, 06:46:37 AM »
"They want a war, they want to own black people. All these teaparty ****s want is a civil war so they can own black people again. They want to own people."
Huh. That certainly is news to me. I attended two Tea Party rallies a few years ago, and I have no desire whatsoever for a civil war or for reinstating slavery, and none of the speakers there, fellow Tea Partiers there, or people I personally know who have attended Tea Party rallies have expressed any desire for either of those things, either.
Why, you'd almost think that NJNP is just a lying, race- baiting nutcase who knows absolutely nothing about Tea Partiers or their beliefs, and is so psychotically obsessed with skin color that he/she will make up any kind of lie possible in order to slanderously accuse those who disagree with him/her of racism.
But, of course, that COULDN'T be the case, could it? :wink:
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2015, 07:52:15 AM »
If anybody owns anybody, it's blacks owning white liberals.
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2015, 09:55:28 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on April 07, 2015, 04:18:16 AM
Well, this is certainly something I've never seen here before; the link used as the title.

<<<could correct it, but not sure what sort of title dutch508 would like, and doesn't like to get dutch508 all upset and bent out of shape, if he didn't like it.

I kind of like it. I probably won't do it again but it looks cool. Plus it's a draw to the thread. Eh.

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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2015, 03:47:37 PM »
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3. I lived in Mississippi for several years.

You wouldn't believe how many Deep South Republicans believe that if the Confederacy were to return they'd suddenly become modern-day Rhett Butlers and Scarlett O'Haras - at the expense of certain folks of color, of course. It rarely dawns on them most white Southerners were dirt poor in the Antebellum South - often even more so than slaves, who were at least someone's property.
 

That didn't own slaves eh?  Then why treat all southerners as they did?  :mental:
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2015, 03:50:10 PM »
Quote from: Gina on April 07, 2015, 03:47:37 PM
That didn't own slaves eh?  Then why treat all southerners as they did?  :mental:

Everyone knows that it was the rich democrats that owned slaves.
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2015, 04:01:52 PM »
Quote from: Gina on April 07, 2015, 03:47:37 PM
Then why treat all southerners as they did?  :mental:

Lazy ass group politics and all that goes with it.
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2015, 05:15:33 PM »
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2. ... All these teaparty ****s want is a civil war so they can own black people again...

Why?  If they wanted stuff that doesn't work and needs constant attention, they could just buy old English sports cars and motorcycles.
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2015, 05:19:59 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on April 07, 2015, 05:15:33 PM
Why?  If they wanted stuff that doesn't work and needs constant attention, they could just buy old English sports cars and motorcycles.

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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2015, 05:56:07 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on April 07, 2015, 05:15:33 PM
Why?  If they wanted stuff that doesn't work and needs constant attention, they could just buy old English sports cars and motorcycles.

You mean, like our Chris_ does? :tongue: :whistling:
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2015, 06:08:31 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on April 07, 2015, 05:15:33 PM
Why?  If they wanted stuff that doesn't work and needs constant attention, they could just buy old English sports cars and motorcycles.
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2015, 06:31:41 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on April 07, 2015, 05:15:33 PM
Why?  If they wanted stuff that doesn't work and needs constant attention, they could just buy old English sports cars and motorcycles.
Heh, DAT wins.  :thumbs: :texas:
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2015, 06:37:42 PM »
You guys are killing me. :rofl:

I don't own a black person... I wasn't able to put him up in the garage and he refused to live in the driveway.
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2015, 06:44:12 PM »
Quote from: Chris_ on April 07, 2015, 06:37:42 PM
You guys are killing me. :rofl:

I don't own a black person... I wasn't able to put him up in the garage and he refused to live in the driveway.

He wouldn't stand in your yard and hold reins for horse riders?
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2015, 06:55:35 PM »
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He wouldn't stand in your yard and hold reins for horse riders?
Not much call for horses around here unless you're doing your grocery shopping in the barrio.
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2015, 07:47:49 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on April 07, 2015, 05:15:33 PM
Why?  If they wanted stuff that doesn't work and needs constant attention, they could just buy old English sports cars and motorcycles.

Or marry my ex-wife.
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2015, 08:04:25 PM »
" And according to the FBI 3 out of the top 4 terrorist concerns in America are AMERICAN homegrown rightwing terrorism."
Is that why almost every single act of terrorism or mass murder in America over the last few years or so has been committed by either a Muslim extremist or a far- left nutjob who holds views that most of the DUmmies agree with?
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2015, 08:15:43 PM »
I graduated from Nathan Bedford Forrest High School and our team name was the Rebels. Before that I attended JEB Stuart Junior High and our big rival was Jefferson Davis Junior High. In elementary school I lived near to Stonewall Jackson Elementary School.  My mom graduated from Robert E. Lee high school which is one of the oldest high schools in Jacksonville.
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2015, 09:41:06 PM »
Do Dummies really consider every Confederate soldier as evil slave-owners? 
Weren't many just defending their homes? 

And I say this as someone who has an ancestor who died fighting in the Civil War for the North...
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2015, 09:50:04 PM »
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3. I lived in Mississippi for several years as a ghey haberdasher.  ::)

You wouldn't believe how many Deep South Republicans believe that if the Confederacy were to return they'd suddenly become modern-day Rhett Butlers and Scarlett O'Haras - at the expense of certain folks of color, of course. It rarely dawns on them most white Southerners were dirt poor in the Antebellum South - often even more so than slaves, who were at least someone's property.

This isn't to say all white Southerners feel that way (on the contrary); but those who disagree typically keep quiet, for fear of being ostracized. The easiest way to get along in today's Deep South is usually to go to church at least twice a week (preferably Baptist), vote for the most racist candidate; and every now and then, whistle Dixie.

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2015, 09:55:27 PM »
Quote from: HawkHogan on April 07, 2015, 09:41:06 PM
Do Dummies really consider every Confederate soldier as evil slave-owners?   

Uh...yup.  Remember, these are the world's foremost critical thinkers.

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Weren't many just defending their homes?


Yes, and their state.


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Why?  If they wanted stuff that doesn't work and needs constant attention, they could just buy old English sports cars and motorcycles.



No shit.......  junk.
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2015, 10:14:07 PM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on April 07, 2015, 09:55:27 PM


No shit.......  junk.
Well, yeah.  It's a rubber bumper model.  Nobody likes those.  :tongue:

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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2015, 10:15:00 PM »
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All these teaparty ****s want is a civil war so they can own black people again. They want to own people.

Nope. I just want to quit having the government take my money to give to others. Pretty much the exact opposite. I don't want to be owned and in my area I pay more than 55% taxes. That's slavery and it's not enough for them.
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