You ****ing idiots just can't catch a break. First the IRS 'loses' e-mails then destroys the hard drives only to find them all later... then Hillary is running this little shell game that just keeps blowing up. Hillary is giving Nixon good press! At least he didn't destroy the tapes!
morningfog (10,336 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026430960
Scrubbing the server looks very bad.
For many reasons. Hillary scrubbed her emails sometime between when she gave emails to the State dept and this month.
When determining which emails to give State, it was in response to the Benghazi nonsense. Thus, her team used Benghazi and Libya based search terms to find responsive emails. They said they also pulled any to .gov accounts as well as search by email address/name of some dignitaries and other officials.
Then, at some point after that document production, they deleted it all. Now, there is no way to ensure or verify that she retained all the records required. She employed the Benghazi based searches to find any emails that may not have been included by the .gov and official's name search. It follows that there are numerous other subjects that would likewise be missed by the .gov/officials search. But they are gone now.
This smells like destruction of evidence, desperation and spoliation. Because of another stupid (or worse) decision, this story will grow new and longer legs. All it will take is one business email to turn up which she didn't produce to destroy any credibility she has left. I hope whatever she is hiding either stays hidden or is revealed long before the convention. She's a liability for the Democratic Party.
Well... yeah.
notadmblnd (19,684 posts)
1. Just what is it that the right thinks she is hiding?
If I were HRC, I would be insulted that the right thinks that I am not smart enough to know not to send nefarious communications via e-mail or telephone.
WTF! Does the right wing think she has conspired with other foreign officials to conduct some malevolent deed? And do they really think she' that god damn stupid to write about it in an e-mail?
No, the right wing folks need to get out their tinfoil hats to protect themselves from what appears to be microwaves that are cooking their brains.
Thats what alot of people think- she set up her own server to aviod exactly what is happening. Her sneekly little plots coming out for all to see. BUT- lets say she is totally innocent in all this. We will never know because she destroyed the records.
morningfog (10,336 posts)
34. She did not have a back-up at State.
That would have been great if she did. It would have avoided all this.
She went out of her way to by-pass the very system she ordered all the State Department to use.
notadmblnd (19,684 posts)
54. There's a lot of HRC haters, so when someone produces what ever it is you all think might ruin her-which is what you want, right? Then it will be the time to clutch your pearls and wring your hands with worry. Until then, let it go. Geesh!
If HRC ends up not running and not being the nominee, I think there are a couple more viable candidates that are electable
BlueJazz (21,753 posts)
3. My personal belief is: It's not a big deal. The Benghazi thing has been investigated to death by republicans and they still have nothing of value. The Emails that were deleted contain what? I don't know. Could have been about her and Bill. I really don't care.
Your thoughts may be entirely different and that's cool...by me.
Hillary has been stonewalling along with her buddies since day one. Now she destroys the records she kept outside the official communication channels? Yeah- nothing to see here. Move along.
napi21 (40,044 posts)
7. Did you ever think that she wanted her email to be secure, and since the server was set up
for the former President, she believed THAT to be much more secure than .gov?
I know I thought of that.
former9thward (13,985 posts)
51. Bill Clinton has said he only has sent 2 emails in his life.
So that story that it was set up for him is BS.
Ooo. Ouch.
fadedrose (8,623 posts)
31. Maybe it's a psycologial plot
that the HC people dreamt up to embarrass the committee.
They know nothing was in the emails and wanted to make a fuss so that Gowdy would ask for the servers and have them restored.
What a trick to play on them if nothing is found but menus and wardrobes....and the committee is falling asleep from boredom reading them.
That'll teach'em...
All that time and expense....
Ya, and I have a bridge that fell out of my mouth one time. Can't sell it for some reason....
Cheese Sandwich (12 posts)
37. Looks bad? Is bad. She knew destroying the emails would be controversial but decided to do it anyway. That means whatever was in those emails was so bad that it would be worth dealing with the controversy of destroying them. That's the cold political calculation Mrs. Clinton and her team made.
There must have been some scandalous stuff in the emails.
ALERT ALERT ALERT
Man from Pickens (1,242 posts)
55. Only one good reason to do it and that is that whatever data that server contained is worse than giving the public impression of deliberately destroying public records and any actual legal consequences that may come to pass. Remember, this is a person whose (ghostwritten) autobiography is arrogantly titled "Living History". So by her own implicit and explicit claims, she just destroyed priceless historical documents that can never be replaced. Unless the contents of that server could have sent her to jail, there's no explanation that suffices to explain this.
There seems to be alot of Hillary Hate at the DUmp. Or is it just me?
Major Hogwash (15,228 posts)
59. Well, just a few short weeks ago, there were some who were saying that it was not illegal.
How the hell will we ever know now???
Anyone who keeps claiming that this is a non-issue had better hope and pray for someone else to run.
I'm certainly not in the mood to just look the other way.
