A Hanging in Mississippi this afternoon - posted with heavy heart and worry

[dutch508]

mwrguy (1,926 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141044783
14. or, coroner writes off another black murder

 

NaturalHigh (9,537 posts)
18. Do you have some reason to think the finding is wrong? If this is a murder that is being covered up as a suicide, it would have to be a spectacular conspiracy. The FBI, medical examiner, local police, and who knows who else would have to be involved and on the same page to pull off a cover up like that.

 

it would have to be a VRWC or something...

Fiendish (1 post)
20. Suicide? Seriously?

Full disclosure: I identify Mississippi as home. I wasn't born there, but I'm a military brat whose old man was stationed at Keesler. I lived there from age 6 to 19, so for all intents and purposes, it's home.

This just makes me sick at heart. Based on what little we know now, this doesn't strike me as suicide. For one thing, the lack of a chair/stool near the body should make it pretty obvious suicide is an unlikely option at best. Yeah, he might've climbed up onto the tree limb and then jumped down... except a "rope" made of tied bedsheets likely wouldn't have stood up to the strain of a falling body.

Hopefully the cops there are using their heads for something other than their hats. If the sheets didn't come from his home or weren't just purchased (i.e., have skin cells or hair or other material traces indicating they're not brand new), that's another strike against the suicide theory. I just don't buy it.

It hurts to say that, too. I love Mississippi in a lot of ways. I knew a lot of great people there. I knew (and know) that there are ugly parts of the state and the South in general, but living on the Coast, things seemed better there. That this sort of thinking persists in the 21st century never ceases to floor me. That people act on this sort of thinking is just sad and disgusting.

I hope the authorities don't shrug their shoulders and carry on with business as usual. If this poor man was murdered, he and his family deserve the full measure of justice, and whoever killed him deserves the full measure of justice.

noob

[obumazombie]

Probably the work of Zimmerman and Wilson under the direct orders of Bush and Reagan.

[BlueStateSaint]

It is trying too hard.
If that is a mole from here read the rules. 

Unfortunately, Carl, Moling 332 doesn't have compulsory attendance--it's a 'private study' course.  This one was trying too hard.

[SVPete]

Don't much care whether it's a suicide or a murder, provided if it's the latter - whether by a black thug(s) or a white thug(s) - the murderer(s) enters prison by jury and exits prison (after a brief stay) by pine box.

[Eupher]

Holder and his sycophant goons in the FBI jumped all over this in the same vein as "Mississippi Burning". They were bound and determined to find a lynching. Too bad that it just didn't work for Eric, Barry, et. al.

[Ptarmigan]

he did kill some politican type woman or one that came from a prominent family

Was Mississippi black man's death suicide or homicide?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/20/hanging-death-investigation-mississippi/25087293/

Byrd spent more than 25 years in prison for the February 1980 murder of Lucille Trim in Claiborne County, according to Mississippi Department of Corrections records. He robbed her of $101, was convicted of capital murder Oct. 28, 1980, and was paroled Nov. 2, 2006.

Trim is the mother of Martha Rainville, the first woman in the history of the National Guard to serve as a state adjutant general when she became adjutant general in Vermont in 1997. Rainville now lives in Virginia and is married to the Paul McHale, a former Pennsylvania congressman and a former assistant secretary of defense.

Otis Byrd murdered Lucille Trim in 1980 after he robbed her. He was paroled in 2006. Trim is the mother of Martha Rainville, who was first woman Adjutant General.

Martha Rainville
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Rainville

I wonder if this could be money related.

A friend last saw him March 2, when he dropped Byrd off at a casino 30 miles north in Vicksburg.

Must of had a huge loss that time. It could be he owed money to someone and was angry at him.

[Gina]

Had to dig this back up because the media and the libs have been eerily silent on it so I'm guessing the guy committed suicide because his autopsy has been given to the family and no screams of him being murdered.  Will they ever learn?

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/04/autopsy_mississippi_hanging.html

JACKSON, Miss. -- The FBI says it has discussed autopsy results with the family of a black man found hanging from a tree in Mississippi.

However, investigators are not saying when they will publicly release the information or whether they consider the death of 54-year-old Otis Byrd to be homicide or suicide.

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Attorney Dennis Sweet III says family members do not believe Byrd died by suicide. They say the results of the autopsy weren't enough.

[SVPete]

I could be wrong, but taking this much time - and the BHO/Holder FBI is part of the investigation - feels more consistent with doing due diligence before ruling it a suicide. That the family has brought in independent investigators - or at least have said they have done so - is similarly suggestive that the FBI, MS, and local law enforcement are leaning toward ruling it a suicide.

[JohnnyReb]

I could be wrong, but taking this much time - and the BHO/Holder FBI is part of the investigation - feels more consistent with doing due diligence before ruling it a suicide. That the family has brought in independent investigators - or at least have said they have done so - is similarly suggestive that the FBI, MS, and local law enforcement are leaning toward ruling it a suicide.

...an Obama may have ordered the feds to drag their feet to stir more racial shit.

[miskie]

I think if there is any intentional foot dragging, it isn't to stir up more race issues, but to allow the story to fall off the news cycle - suggesting there is abundant evidence this was a suicide.

If they wanted to make hay about this, there would be interviews and specialists inside the newsrooms of all of the Obama's best friends with charts and data to fuel it. Instead there is nothing at all.

[Gina]

I think if there is any intentional foot dragging, it isn't to stir up more race issues, but to allow the story to fall off the news cycle - suggesting there is abundant evidence this was a suicide.

If they wanted to make hay about this, there would be interviews and specialists inside the newsrooms of all of the Obama's best friends with charts and data to fuel it. Instead there is nothing at all.

Agreed. 

[Rebel]

And, yet, not one damn word about this girl who was, MOST likely, killed by someone who would look like Obama's son:

[Rebel]

Or these two:




Honestly, if white people rioted every time black thugs killed a white person(s), this nation would be at perpetual war. Well, until one side was wiped out. I'm going with the 12.3%. Yeah, but we're the racists. 

[Gina]

^ God bless their souls.  They died horrific deaths.  Not just a bullet or knife. Hate fueled their painful deaths. 

Still haven't heard anything about Jessica Chambers.  The whole town is up in arms about the cops hiding something because they won't release anything.