**** YOU! HILLARY HATERS!!!

[dutch508]

Yavin4 (20,414 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026375766

Is your anger/discontentment towards Hillary worth living through 4 years of a Republican president
with a Republican congress? 

 

NYC_SKP (65,504 posts)
1. BULLSHIT. I won't vote out of fear of a Republican, or the SCOTUS. Fear is a RW tactic.

Please take it elsewhere.

We can do better than that, we MUST do better than that.

Yavin4 (20,414 posts)
11. A Republican president will take us to war in Iran and put another Scalia on the SCOTUS

You are okay with all of that? 

morningfog (10,246 posts)
128. Will you commit to voting for Hillary?

I feel a purge of the DUmp coming soon...

NYC_SKP (65,504 posts)
133. No, I will not. And you can take a screen cap of it and everything. I will never vote for Hillary.

I will support someone else in the primary and doubt that I'll care at all if she's the nominee when the general election comes around.

California is a winner take all state, she doesn't need my vote.

 

NYC_SKP (65,504 posts)
80. I hate to see our side helping to quash real options by echoing the Inevitability Meme.

Let's step back and take a breath and tell the pollsters and the media and others to go to hell, we want the process to be allowed to work.

To me, they're stifling our ability to have an open discussion about options.

Let's face it, Hillary isn't polling well because she's great, she's polling well because she's got name recognition, political power, and she's a darling of the power players out there.

We should know better than to buy into it and we should really not help them.

Let's have a primary, for goodness sake.

Romeo.lima333 (323 posts)
8. just ****ing great yet another 'cut off your nose to spite your face' democrat

s/he is gonna ride their principles right into serfdom - THAT'S JUST BRILLIANT wake up!

Frances (7,851 posts)
52. Do you think that if Hillary had been president instead of W

that going to war with Iraq would have happened?

No way!

Chan790 (17,301 posts)
61. She vociferously supported it. She's more of a war-hawk than many Senate Republicans.

I love how her supporters gloss over that. George W. Bush's Iraq policy was Hillary Clinton's.

To quote my HS principal, Sr. Joan: "There isn't room for the Holy Ghost between them."

I have every faith that Hillary will get us into the next Iraq if elected, both because she supports military adventurism and because she knows who will be paying for her reelection if she does. (UTC, Boeing, McDonnell-Douglas, Raytheon, Boston Dynamic and probably every other defense contractor in the DoD rolodex.)

rhett o rick (42,497 posts)
108. You're right it was a mistake to run Gore against Bush. The people wanted change and Gore offered 8 more years of Clintonomics. And now we are faced with the exact same choice. Clinton vs Bush, yet some are hoping for a different outcome. Instead let's find a progressive candidate we can all get behind? 

Geez, guys. We got a year before this shit starts up. It's pretty early in teh game to be killing each other.

cali (97,692 posts)
20. yes, it is too early. I sure wouldn't be surprised if Hillary imploded. and it's clear that O'Malley is serious about challenging her. That's why he chose not to run for Mikulski's seat.

Yavin4 (20,414 posts)
40. She's not going to implode. She's going to be the nominee because it's too late for a serious challenger to get into the game.

NYC_SKP (65,504 posts)
87. Well then we are screwed because she can't win. So, Republican President here we come.

She can't bring people together except to bring them together to prevent her from winning.

So, her power and self-interest and faux popularity, those things that make her the nominee, will produce a Republican win and we'll all be screwn.

Thanks so much.

namastea42 (36 posts)
24. Threats like this do not make the case to support Hillary in the primaries. I believe this is the best chance for a democrat to win in 2016 as the Republican are imploding into themselves. The Blue Wall speaks and to waste it on a center right Democratic instead of someone to the left would be a sin.

Man from Pickens (1,146 posts)
37. So now it's blackmail?

That bag o' tricks that Hillary's got is looking mighty empty indeed if this is all that's left.

Yavin4 (20,414 posts)
46. I will preserve this thread when President Scott Walker is marching us off to war in Iran

As proof that folks were comfortable with a Republican president over Hillary. 

 

Logical (15,737 posts)
134. LOL, I can't tell if you are just ****ing with us! nt

Yavin4 (20,414 posts)
146. I'm not. Hillary is a far superior choice to ANY Republican.

Right now, she does not have a challenger, and given the time, she won't have a credible one.

 

Al Gore... 

Nay (7,608 posts)
82. Well, I don't know. The sight of Pres Obama basically okaying such things as torture,
targeted assassinations, drone warfare on civilians, "touchups" to SS, the TPP, etc., has made these horrors OK, it seems. I have to consider that the slow introduction and normalization of these neocon ideas by Democratic presidents is at least as, or more, harmful than the introduction of them by Republican presidents. We're supposed to be the ones with actual liberal principles. When we (as in the Dem leadership) ditch those principles, it is much more dangerous than when Pubs don't have those principles in the first place.

Yes, A Pub president would be a horrorshow, it may also result in all of the Pubs being thrown out of many offices after 4 years of gross mismanagement. Who knows. As a subscriber to the the theory that environmental problems are going to put a quick end to all this bullshit in the next 20 years, I have trouble caring, since the Money God still rules everything whichever party is in power.

Yavin4 (20,414 posts)
93. Guess you didn't live in America from 2001 through 2008 I did, and it really was close to being the Apocalypse.

 

Yavin4 (20,414 posts)
109. If you were in NY in the towers on 9/11, it was the Apocalypse. Muslims
If you were in New Orleans during Katrina, it was the Apocalypse. Democratic Mayor and Gov.
If you were in Iraq and Afghanistan, it was the Apocalypse. Muslims
And for everyone else, we all experienced an economic Apocalypse in 2008 which some of us are still suffering for today. ... ... Barry's election?
So, yes, it was that bad.

rhett o rick (42,497 posts)
101. Ah Yes, insinuation by question. It's intended to be a trick question. Clever, so clever.

However, your logic is backwards. If you don't want to see a Republicon in the WH, then don't nominate H. Clinton-Sachs. It's that simple. But no, you want to nominate someone that a good share of the party doesn't want and then coerce them into supporting her in the general "or else." Let's nominate a progressive and kick the hell out of the R-Cons.

To save the middle and lower classes from poverty, we need to end the continuous neocon wars and cut back on defense spending. H. Clinton isn't about to bite the hands that feed her money.

 

winter is coming (7,504 posts)
157. Not this shit again.

Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays are the days when you're supposed to tell us we must vote for HRC or the scary Republican will win. The rest of the week you're supposed to inform us that we're an insignificant fringe of the party and that the rest of the Party can't wait to vote for Hillary.

I realize that switching back and forth between contradictory characterizations of "the left" can be confusing, but try to stick to the schedule, 'k?

[diesel driver]

namastea42 (36 posts)
24.  ...The Blue Wall speaks and to waste it on a center right Democratic instead of someone to the left would be a sin.

Did I read this right?  Does this DUmbass live so far out in left field he/she/it thinks Hitlery is CENTER RIGHT?   

These idiots would consider Stalin to be part of the VRWC. 

[98ZJUSMC]

Let's face it, Hillary isn't polling well because she's great, that's true she's polling well because she's got name recognition, political power, and she's a darling of the power players out there.

Incomplete.  She polls well because she's the only option the Marxists have.

[thundley4]

Incomplete.  She polls well because she's the only option the Marxists have.

Any other candidate besides Hillary means that that GOP has to majorly **** up to lose.  The GOP elite will find a way to lose when it should be a cake walk.

[Bad Dog]

The great thing is, barry and the wicked witch of the West wing feel the same as these DUmmies.  Jarret is using the MSM to assassinate the hildabeast.

[thundley4]

The great thing is, barry and the wicked witch of the West wing feel the same as these DUmmies.  Jarret is using the MSM to assassinate the hildabeast.

Makes me wonder if it was Hillary that sent the cyanide to the White House. 

[JohnnyReb]

Makes me wonder if it was Hillary that sent the cyanide to the White House. 

I thought lead was the Clinton preferred poison pill?

[Fourwinds]

Looks like they're starting early. It's fun watching the fur ball, but mark my words they'll be in lock step come election time.

[tanstaafl]

Yavin4 (20,414 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026375766

Is your anger/discontentment towards Hillary worth living through 4 years of a Republican president
with a Republican congress? 

My anger IS directed towards She Who Must Not be Named, otherwise known a "Cankles". And Yes, if we are blessed with a republican President,  a Republican House AND a Republican Senate for the years 2017 to 2021, it will be worth living, Living Large.

Republican nominated SCOTUS will be the Cherries on top.

[BlueStateSaint]

My anger IS directed towards She Who Must Not be Named, otherwise known a "Cankles". And Yes, if we are blessed with a republican President,  a Republican House AND a Republican Senate for the years 2017 to 2021, it will be worth living, Living Large.

Republican nominated SCOTUS will be the Cherries on top.

I think that Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg's decision to not retire is going to bite her, and the whole of the Prog movement, in the ass.