dummie Lobo27 spins a semi bouncie.

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The link:  http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026365760

The OP:

Lobo27 (600 posts)

A lunch break conversation from today.
Usually eight of us gather at our lunch table. Usually the same people. Today's conversation was about sports, and swiftly went the way of politics. Eventually we got to Iran and nuclear weapons. Most of the conversation was as to why Iran shouldn't be allowed to have weapons.

Towards the end, Geoff, one of our oldest coworkers said who are we to determine who gets to have what. He was met with questionable looks to say the least. Followed by multiple, we're the good guys. One guy got a bit flustered, and insinuated that Geoff's words were treasonous.

Most of the people at work are in their late 20s or early 30s and geoff is in his late 50s and a vet for perspective. It was an interesting conversation just thought I'd share.

 

Small bonfire at the moment. Spins off another bouncie right away though:

riderinthestorm (17,575 posts)
1. I just had a convo this am with the husband of one of my clients

he responded that if he were younger he'd strap on a rifle and go kill some Iranians. That they are eeeeeevvvvviiiillll and that since monitoring didn't work in North Korea, it won't work in Iran.

I felt physically ill.

There's no way you can even counter that string of nonsense (the guys in his 50's and an obvious ass but I adore his wife who is a great client so I just walked away as she told him to shut up).

 

Fumesucker (39,654 posts)
5. Gish Gallop, deal with it a lot myself..

They unload a string of crap in about thirty seconds that takes hours to unravel thread by tedious thread and all you've done in the end is make them believe it more.

Ever wonder why women stay with guys that stupid or ignorant? Love the bit about her telling him to shut up.

And the dummies wonder why nobody likes them.

obxhead (8,319 posts)
6. What does age have to do with it?

If he's a manly man he can just march into Iran right now! Hell, its just a skip away from Iraq or Afghanistan. What's holding him up?

Oh yeah. He's really big on words, short on action.

Says the dummie that cannot even support himself.

Kalidurga (7,083 posts)
7. Yes far to much of our budget goes to the military

I don't want to get rid of our military some people think I do. I just want our troops stationed stateside rather than in other countries. We can probably get rid of all but 10% of our nukes as well. I doubt we will be attacked from closing down a base in Germany or Japan. Most small bases with less than 100 troops they can go too.

We need that money to feed us! Never mind the defense of the nation!

surrealAmerican (9,236 posts)
9. How do they know ...

... that we're "the good guys"? Would it feel different to be the "bad guys"?

Being "good" or "bad" is a function of what you do, not who you are. Sometimes, I think children's entertainment has ruined a few generations of Americans - mine included.

How many nations have the US said must be destroyed? Iran said Israel must be destroyed.  And yes dummie... your generation is ruined. Your kind is the one doing the ruining.

Lobo27 (600 posts)
11. Its the concept of everyone being against America

That is bombarded to the people on a daily basis, imo.

Take a look around the dump, dummie.  Your kind IS against America.

peace13 (9,114 posts)
10. As the middle class rapidly disappears...

We head closer and closer to being a third world nation ......with nuclear weapons. When Cheney was is charge some of warheads were unaccounted for at times. Our service people in charge of keeping our warheads safe and secure have come under severe scrutiny over the recent years. At times they have not passed the test! I stand with Geoff!

Who has been in charge the last 7 years now?



That is it for now. 

[Delmar]

Response to Lobo27 (Original post)Sat Mar 14, 2015, 08:05 PM
riderinthestorm (17,575 posts)
1.
There's no way you can even counter that string of nonsense (the guys in his 50's and an obvious ass but I adore his wife who is a great client so I just walked away as she told him to shut up).

Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #1)Sat Mar 14, 2015, 08:19 PM
Fumesucker (39,655 posts)
5.
Ever wonder why women stay with guys that stupid or ignorant? Love the bit about her telling him to shut up.

Too bad it never happened.

[obumazombie]

This reminds me of a similar parable that is at least as credible...

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes,it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that’s what they decided to do.

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. ‘Since you are all such good customers,’ he said, ‘I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.’ Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.

But what about the other six men – the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his ‘fair share?’

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100%savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.

‘I only got a dollar out of the $20,’ declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, ‘but he got $10!’

‘Yeah, that’s right,’ exclaimed the fifth man. ‘I only saved a dollar, too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more than I got!’

‘That’s true!!’ shouted the seventh man. ‘Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!’

‘Wait a minute,’ yelled the first four men in unison. ‘We didn’t get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!’

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, ladies and gentlemen, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works!!

The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

Full reference...
https://itooktheredpill.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/the-parable-of-10-men-in-a-bar/

SOAK THE RICH!!!

[ChuckJ]

surrealAmerican (9,236 posts)
9. How do they know ...

... that we're "the good guys"? Would it feel different to be the "bad guys"?

Being "good" or "bad" is a function of what you do, not who you are. Sometimes, I think children's entertainment has ruined a few generations of Americans - mine included.

So who are the good guys? The ones who kill your beloved homosexuals?

The DUmp never fails to amaze me. The United States is one of the few countries in the entire world in which the DUmmies can collect a check while safely lounging around and spewing their DUmmie-tude all day, yet they hate it. Maybe it is a result of subconscious self-hate. Maybe deep down they realize that they are abnormal abominations and long for a place that will not suffer them to live. I don't know, but it's strange.

[SVPete]

Well, what do you expect from people who hate their own country, the US? Hatred blinds. It blinds these people to the grossly obvious difference between the US and the likes of NoKo and Iran.

The whole "Good Guys", "Bad Guys", "What gives you the right" thinking in this story is so juvenile!

[JohnnyReb]

I've heard that after an all out nuclear war that only cockroaches will survive. Does that mean that only Muslims and democrats will be left?

[Carl]

In other words,despite a week of impotent hysteria from the left,they know that the public is against a deal that gives Iran a nuke.
The 47 patriots in the Senate did their jobs for once.

[obumazombie]

In other words,despite a week of impotent hysteria from the left,they know that the public is against a deal that gives Iran a nuke.
The 47 patriots in the Senate did their jobs for once.

Bob Schieffer is getting deranged about the 47 patriots...
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/14/ny-post-valerie-jarrett-leaked-hillarys-private-email-use-to-press/

He seems to have glossed over all the lib treachery in the last 6 decades.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeffrey-lord/2015/03/14/same-liberal-media-slamming-47-gop-senators-iran-loved-dems-meddling

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