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Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« on: February 07, 2015, 07:35:23 PM »
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 ...should not desert their Party or their country to support the Israeli leader, Netanyahu. They really need to re-examine their loyalties, in my opinion. Even if they are dual citizens, they should still remain loyal to this country, rather than Israel. All the moreso since Boehner and the Republicans are using the Netanyahu speech for purely political reasons. Even the citizens of Israel can see what is happening.

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Re: Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2015, 07:54:44 PM »
Ah, yes, the old, "To whom are they loyal?" argument. I thought that sort of argument was taken off the table by JFK in 1960 ...
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Re: Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2015, 08:31:12 PM »
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Ken Burch (35,173 posts)   Sat Feb 7, 2015, 04:12 PM

3. I seriously doubt any members of Congress are dual citizens.

Are they even allowed to be?

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kentuck (73,030 posts)   Sat Feb 7, 2015, 04:16 PM

5. Joe Lieberman had dual citizenship.

I don't know if any presently are? All the more reason to not go along with this Republican scheme.

Final comment, just before kentuck's stupid post was taken down:

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11. do you reaLize how offensive this is ?
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Re: Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2015, 08:51:13 PM »
It is a legitimate point, and axiomatic in national security strategy, that nations don't have 'Friends,' they have 'Allies,' and so it follows that the interests of the USA and ANY ally are not identical, eternal, or inseparable.  However, demanding that legislators demonstrate party loyalty by trying to embarrass and humiliate the chief executive of an ally for quite trivial domestic political reasons is so far beyond that as to defy rational discussion.
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Re: Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2015, 08:52:44 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on February 07, 2015, 08:51:13 PM
.....is so far beyond that as to defy rational discussion.

Uh huh.

That's the primitives, all right.
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Re: Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2015, 12:16:48 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on February 07, 2015, 08:51:13 PM
It is a legitimate point, and axiomatic in national security strategy, that nations don't have 'Friends,' they have 'Allies,' and so it follows that the interests of the USA and ANY ally are not identical, eternal, or inseparable.  However, demanding that legislators demonstrate party loyalty by trying to embarrass and humiliate the chief executive of an ally for quite trivial domestic political reasons is so far beyond that as to defy rational discussion.

It's not about embarrassing Netanyahu. They want to embarrass Boehner. Both parties are playing a petty game of "whose is bigger" right now. The Republicans wanted to show Ojughead that he's irrelevant, and the Dems are lining up behind him to show he still is.

Frankly, I want to hear what Bibi has to say, but Boehner probably could have gone about it in a better way.
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Re: Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2015, 12:45:19 AM »
Quote from: Mary Ann on February 08, 2015, 12:16:48 AM
It's not about embarrassing Netanyahu. They want to embarrass Boehner. Both parties are playing a petty game of "whose is bigger" right now. The Republicans wanted to show Ojughead that he's irrelevant, and the Dems are lining up behind him to show he still is.

Frankly, I want to hear what Bibi has to say, but Boehner probably could have gone about it in a better way.

While that is completely covered in my post as "for quite trivial domestic political reasons," of which the embarrassment of an Israeli PM would be the actual effect, I beg to differ with your conclusion, in that the Democrats actually wish to do both.  Obama would love to see the Likud out of power, and replaced by a more tractable (And gullible) Labour coalition government.
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Re: Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2015, 08:48:29 AM »
By loyalty the libs want loyalty to them before all others.
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Re: Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2015, 08:54:52 AM »
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By loyalty the libs want loyalty to them before all others.
 

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Re: Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2015, 12:29:32 PM »
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I don't know if any presently are? All the more reason to not go along with this Republican scheme.

WTH is he talking about, "Republican scheme"?!

Netanyahu was invited to speak about Iran and its nuke efforts. Without looking at the globe in the next room, I can state with confidence that Israel is closer to Iran than is WashDC. Israel has a much higher stake in monitoring Iran's doings and figuring out its intentions. If US intel people are as well, Obama and his peeps are between those intel people and Congress, and Obama, et al, have been less than forthcoming in close to all dealings with Congress. However much Obama & Crew dislike Netanyahu's coming to the US, it serves a necessary purpose. And that is no little part of why Obama & Crew are POed, Netanyahu's speech and consultations bypass their stonewall & filter system.
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Re: Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2015, 03:12:53 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on February 08, 2015, 12:29:32 PM
WTH is he talking about, "Republican scheme"?!

Netanyahu was invited to speak about Iran and its nuke efforts. Without looking at the globe in the next room, I can state with confidence that Israel is closer to Iran than is WashDC. Israel has a much higher stake in monitoring Iran's doings and figuring out its intentions. If US intel people are as well, Obama and his peeps are between those intel people and Congress, and Obama, et al, have been less than forthcoming in close to all dealings with Congress. However much Obama & Crew dislike Netanyahu's coming to the US, it serves a necessary purpose. And that is no little part of why Obama & Crew are POed, Netanyahu's speech and consultations bypass their stonewall & filter system.

Plausible deniability?

Skip Netanyahu's speech then when the subject of Iran's threats are discussed later they can plead ignorance.
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Re: Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2015, 03:31:12 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on February 08, 2015, 03:12:53 PM
Plausible deniability?

Skip Netanyahu's speech then when the subject of Iran's threats are discussed later they can plead ignorance.

The owebuma administration only ever learns of the day's events in the next days newspaper.
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Re: Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2015, 04:11:36 PM »
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The owebuma administration only ever learns of the day's events in the next days newspaper.

FUTURE HEADLINE:

Israel Intercepts Iran Nuke, Retaliatory Strike Claims 20 Million Iranian Lives


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"I wish would had learned of the Iranian nuclear program sooner back when we could have done something to avert this humanitarian crisis but the obstruction from the obstructionist GOP obstructed us."
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Re: Kentuck goes anti-semitic, gets OP hidden
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2015, 05:07:48 PM »
Future Headline (Iran plants 3 Nukes in USA and 2 in Europe ( Lets us find ONE of the five) ,tells us if we help Israel they will detonate the remaining four, then they detonate one in Tel Aviv brought across Syrian Frontier in an Ambulance, (900k Jews Die), before Israel responds the Current US Administration threatens Sanctions & Divestment & no Aid for " The disaster" in Tel Aviv if Israel uses a Nuke in response.
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