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Holder had a point.  Though maybe not the whole country--just democrat underground.

The big_dog primitive posted about a new class offering at Arizona State University called Race Theory & the Problem of Whiteness.  The post could have served as a good launching point for a discussion about race but big_dog self-deleted it for some cowardly reason.

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Fox News Rips Into Arizona State University For Course Titled 'The Problem Of Whiteness'




A segment on Friday's "Fox and Friends" chastised Arizona State University for offering a course this spring that examines the "problem of whiteness." Co-host Elizabeth Hasselbeck spoke with Lauren Clark, an ASU student who was disturbed by a course in the school's English department titled "Race Theory & the Problem of Whiteness." Clark is also a writer for Campus Reform, a student news website backed by the Leadership Institute, which organizes conservative groups on campus.

Clark took issue with the class book list, which included titles like "Everyday Language of White Racism" and "Possessive Investment in Whiteness." A syllabus for the class was not available online. "All of these books have a disturbing trend and that's pointing to all white people as the root cause of social injustices for this country," Clark said. Hasselback then asked Clark whether ASU would dare offer a course called "The Problem With Blackness" or "The Problem With Being Female."

"I don't think that would fly at the university," Clark responded. "Quite frankly, as an ASU student myself, I'm disappointed that my school would offer a course like this. Clearly we have a lot of work to go as a society in terms of racial tension, but having a class that suggests an entire race is the problem is inappropriate, wrong, and quite frankly, counter productive."

Hasselback added that she thought the course seemed "quite unfair and wrong and pointed." When contacted by TPM on Friday, Lee Bebout, the white professor teaching the class, referred questions to the university's press office. The university issued the following statement on the course to TPM:

This course uses literature and rhetoric to look at how stories shape people’s understandings and experiences of race. It encourages students to examine how people talk about – or avoid talking about – race in the contemporary United States. This is an interdisciplinary course, so students will draw on history, literature, speeches and cultural changes – from scholarly texts to humor. The class is designed to empower students to confront the difficult and often thorny issues that surround us today and reach thoughtful conclusions rather than display gut reactions. A university is an academic environment where we discuss and debate a wide array of viewpoints. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-arizona-state-problem-whiteness
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Re: The United States is a nation of cowards when it comes to race
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2015, 05:15:22 PM »
In DUmmieland, that might be a pizzaronious offence.
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Re: The United States is a nation of cowards when it comes to race
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2015, 12:44:28 AM »
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"I don't think that would fly at the university," Clark responded. "Quite frankly, as an ASU student myself, I'm disappointed that my school would offer a course like this. Clearly we have a lot of work to go as a society in terms of racial tension,

Bullshit, little Mr. "I'm in college so, I now know everything."  90% of racial tension in this country is either, centered in blue-city hell holes, aggravated by the (D)Marxist party for political power, practiced like a science by faux-victim aggrieved minorities who can't even properly pronounce "slave" and blown way out of proportion by the fellow traveler Marxistmedia®

F-ck you, you little dipshit.   :bird:

All that being said, we are still one of the least racist nations on this planet.  Grow up and visit a couple, dickhead.
              

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Re: The United States is a nation of cowards when it comes to race
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2015, 12:48:50 AM »
The libs think their abuse of racism is completely under control.
They never see it coming when their abuse of racism blows up in their face.
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Re: The United States is a nation of cowards when it comes to race
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2015, 08:38:02 AM »
Gotta love how the university's mewling, mealy- mouthed, pseudo- intellectual defense of that course does absolutely nothing to address the issue of how blatantly racist the course's content is towards white people.

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Re: The United States is a nation of cowards when it comes to race
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2015, 08:53:58 AM »
Gotta love how the university's mewling, mealy- mouthed, pseudo- intellectual defense of that course does absolutely nothing to address the issue of how blatantly racist the course's content is towards white people.

That's because only white people (especially males) can be racist.

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Re: The United States is a nation of cowards when it comes to race
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2015, 10:12:29 PM »
I don't understand. Kin Barky the Liar of Fecal Touch was to bring forth a 'post racial" America. yet from the polls all of America, particularly blacks, say Obama has made race relations worse. What is one to believe?
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Re: The United States is a nation of cowards when it comes to race
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2015, 10:38:51 PM »

>snipage<

F-ck you, you little dipshit.   :bird:

All that being said, we are still one of the least racist nations on this planet.  Grow up and visit a couple, dickhead.
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Re: The United States is a nation of cowards when it comes to race
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2015, 10:57:16 PM »
Gotta love how the university's mewling, mealy- mouthed, pseudo- intellectual defense of that course does absolutely nothing to address the issue of how blatantly racist the course's content is towards white people.

Courses like that are in most colleges. A few years back a girl I work with brought a textbook of a required course her son had to take at a local college. Called Race, Gender and <something else, can't remember now>. White male bashing is what it was. To sum up the entire course in one short sentence: The root of all evil in the world is a direct result of white males.

One article in the book I remember is this: http://www.uic.edu/orgs/cwluherstory/CWLUArchive/wantawife.html and that was one of the tame ones.
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Re: The United States is a nation of cowards when it comes to race
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2015, 11:47:29 PM »
Courses like that are in most colleges. A few years back a girl I work with brought a textbook of a required course her son had to take at a local college. Called Race, Gender and <something else, can't remember now>. White male bashing is what it was. To sum up the entire course in one short sentence: The root of all evil in the world is a direct result of white males.

One article in the book I remember is this: http://www.uic.edu/orgs/cwluherstory/CWLUArchive/wantawife.html and that was one of the tame ones.
I have been cleaning out some old boxes of random stuff, some dates to my college days.  Found my college "handbook" from senior year in early '90's, which lists every class available to take with a brief description.  Not a thing was offered even resembling such garbage that we often see today as examples of crap classes.

True, I did go to a private and "Christian" university.  Not a small or obscure one...most of you know which one it is.  I'll have to look up the most current offerings to see if it has changed much in that regard.
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Re: The United States is a nation of cowards when it comes to race
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2015, 12:20:31 AM »
I have been cleaning out some old boxes of random stuff, some dates to my college days.  Found my college "handbook" from senior year in early '90's, which lists every class available to take with a brief description.  Not a thing was offered even resembling such garbage that we often see today as examples of crap classes.

True, I did go to a private and "Christian" university.  Not a small or obscure one...most of you know which one it is.  I'll have to look up the most current offerings to see if it has changed much in that regard.

This looks like the book but I can't be sure... too long ago (around 2000):  http://www.amazon.com/Race-Class-Gender-United-States/dp/142921788X/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1422245516&sr=8-15&keywords=race+gender+and+class

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I used "Race, Class, and Gender in the United States" for a recent class on Racism and Sexism and I found myself spending a considerable amount of time exploring articles outside of those assigned. The articles integrate with one another quite well and they provide a variety of perspectives. Perhaps the most valuable part of Rothenberg's compilation is its ability to simultaneously provide the historic framework of oppression while providing a cross-section of how concepts of race, class, and gender play out in today's society.

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I had to buy this book for college. It is easy and interesting reading. The history it covers is amazing. I read a story about Pearl Harbor and was so touched by the story. As an African- American, it help me to understand that We were not the only race hated, discriminated against and treated badly, when I read the story, told by a Japanese teenager, I was brought to tears. This book enlightened me,for now when I think of the history of oppression it is not just confined to the walls of MY race anymore. I believe discrimination is all about Power, therefore, it can knock on anyone's door who do not fit Into the part of society that have the power, money and control. Great b

I remember reading something about that in that text. The whole premise in that section was the lilly white Germans were not interned like the filthy, yellow japs and it was all racist American white men that did it. Doesn't mention that the japs bombed the shit out of Pearl Harbor and the west coast of America was vulnerable. Roosevelt was not mentioned either. I asked my great uncle about it, he was around 20 when the attack happened and in the navy, and he said that America was petrified after December 7th and was worried about an invasion. Never mind the fact the Nazis had no way to invade the US. He fought the japs in WW2 and hated them to the day he died.

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Rothenberg does a great job in compiling multiple sources in order to expose the inequality and oppression within the United States. The articles identify the oppressors and the oppressed in order to make the invisible visible. Race, class, and gender in the United States reveals that the possibility of achieving the "American dream" takes more than a strong work ethic and education, rather it means having many of the privileges and benefits that minorities and lower class citizens lack

Like I said... sounds like the book but I can't be sure.

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Re: The United States is a nation of cowards when it comes to race
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2015, 12:37:19 AM »
Orientals can be Racis too ... :fuelfire:

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Re: The United States is a nation of cowards when it comes to race
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2015, 05:16:44 AM »
Orientals can be Racis too ... :fuelfire:

Especially towards other orientals.
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Re: The United States is a nation of cowards when it comes to race
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2015, 03:55:58 PM »
Orientals can be Racis too ... :fuelfire:

Silly Dopey. Don't you know that only YT can be racist?

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