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Offline CC27

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I'm done being a "liberal"
« on: January 19, 2015, 07:46:22 PM »
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I'm done being a "liberal"


I have never been a fan of "labels." But everyday I am becoming even more perturbed with labels. Liberal, Conservative, right, left, Dem, repub, etc.

I am an individual who has certain principals. I'm not sure if they jive with others who hold a number of similar principals. I am my own individual with my own thoughts, opinions, and ideas of how to progress.

I support the American worker to have certain rights to fair wages and benefits. I support educating our youth in the best way possible and to be competitive on the global job markets. I support social safety nets like SSI and SSI for the disabled workers. I support Medicare and Medicaid in its current form as a social universal health care program that needs to be expanded to include all Americans. I support common sense legislation to regulate deadly weapons that are owned and obtained by the general public. I believe in a strong federal network or safe transportation including roads and bridges that are safe to travel. I believe in the rights of women to make decisions regarding their own health and reproductive systems. I believe in marriage for ALL consenting adults. I believe that people have the right to go to church, worship their Gods, or to believe in no Gods, without persecution.

Rather than negotiating labels, I'd rather negotiate my beliefs. I tend to find that it is easier to tell someone that I am not a liberal. I then start explaining who I am with the above points and then discuss those individual points. People who claim they are Conservative seem to have a tough time actually arguing the above points. By the end of the discussion many of them seem to believe they way I do. Yet they go back to that odd label they give themselves.

I swear these labels are part of the huge overall us versus them mentality. We need to drop labels and discuss beliefs.

Just call yourself a progressive then.  :whatever: Nice added bouncy in there DUmmie.

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Re: I'm done being a "liberal"
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2015, 08:41:24 PM »
Lame attempt at cred.

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Re: I'm done being a "liberal"
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2015, 09:19:09 PM »
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Star Member titaniumsalute (1,752 posts)

I'm done being a "liberal"


I have never been a fan of "labels." But everyday I am becoming even more perturbed with labels. Liberal, Conservative, right, left, Dem, repub, etc.

I am an individual who has certain principals. I'm not sure if they jive with others who hold a number of similar principals. I am my own individual with my own thoughts, opinions, and ideas of how to progress.

I support the American worker to have certain rights to fair wages and benefits. I support educating our youth in the best way possible and to be competitive on the global job markets. I support social safety nets like SSI and SSI for the disabled workers. I support Medicare and Medicaid in its current form as a social universal health care program that needs to be expanded to include all Americans. I support common sense legislation to regulate deadly weapons that are owned and obtained by the general public. I believe in a strong federal network or safe transportation including roads and bridges that are safe to travel. I believe in the rights of women to make decisions regarding their own health and reproductive systems. I believe in marriage for ALL consenting adults. I believe that people have the right to go to church, worship their Gods, or to believe in no Gods, without persecution.

Rather than negotiating labels, I'd rather negotiate my beliefs. I tend to find that it is easier to tell someone that I am not a liberal. I then start explaining who I am with the above points and then discuss those individual points. People who claim they are Conservative seem to have a tough time actually arguing the above points. By the end of the discussion many of them seem to believe they way I do. Yet they go back to that odd label they give themselves.

I swear these labels are part of the huge overall us versus them mentality. We need to drop labels and discuss beliefs.

So let me see if I got this correct, dummie. Whenever you "talk" to a "conservative" the previous mentioned "conservative" has a tough time arguing your oh-so-flawless points?

Are you really serious? If so dummie, I got a little challenge for you and your oh-so-flawless talking points. Why don't you register here? Pick someone, just about anyone will do. Start a thread in general discussion and discuss your oh-so-flawless talking points with that person. I think you will find out that person will have no problem arguing your oh-so-flawless talking points.

So how about it, dummie? 
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Re: I'm done being a "liberal"
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2015, 09:26:14 PM »
So let me see if I got this correct, dummie. Whenever you "talk" to a "conservative" the previous mentioned "conservative" has a tough time arguing your oh-so-flawless points?

Are you really serious? If so dummie, I got a little challenge for you and your oh-so-flawless talking points. Why don't you register here? Pick someone, just about anyone will do. Start a thread in general discussion and discuss your oh-so-flawless talking points with that person. I think you will find out that person will have no problem arguing your oh-so-flawless talking points.

So how about it, dummie?

you would have a better chance of getting Al Sharpton to debate Allen West or Ben Carson.

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Re: I'm done being a "liberal"
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2015, 12:00:58 AM »
Gees. They may as well call themselves communists.
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Re: I'm done being a "liberal"
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2015, 12:15:40 AM »
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People who claim they are Conservative seem to have a tough time actually arguing the above points. By the end of the discussion many of them seem to believe they way I do. Yet they go back to that odd label they give themselves.

Survey says?         

 :bouncy:

Lame attempt at cred.

Pretty much.


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Quote from: I_B_Perky on January 19, 2015, 09:19:09 PM
So let me see if I got this correct, dummie. Whenever you "talk" to a "conservative" the previous mentioned "conservative" has a tough time arguing your oh-so-flawless points?

Well.....umm....it works in Hollywood? [/(D)ipshit]
« Last Edit: January 20, 2015, 12:19:48 AM by 98ZJUSMC »
              

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