Primitives want to abolish the Senate

[SVPete]

House seats are apportioned according to each state's population. So a populous state like CA, TX, FL, or NY will have more House seats. The Senate is two votes per state, so that a small handful of populous states cannot use Congress to exploit less populous states.

We all learned this in junior high or high school, even those among the DU-folk who stayed awake and un-stoned in school. So, what's the real beef? The Ds' base constituencies are concentrated in large cities. And how many DU-folk dwell in or near large cities? The DU folk want to be able to do exactly what the Senate was set up to prevent. The DU folk want to be able to run the US based on just the votes of a few large cities, such as NYC, Chicago, LA, Houston, Miami, Philadelphia, Seattle-Tacoma, and SF.

[Ptarmigan]

Talk about sore losers.

House=Larger states as based on population
Senate=Each state gets two no matter the population.

Back than Senators were appointed by state legislatures prior to Seventeenth Amendment passed in 1913.

[98ZJUSMC]

The DU folk want to be able to do exactly what the Senate was set up to prevent.

Talk about sore losers.

Proven, over and over and over again.  Petulant infants.

[miskie]

It's never an issue until the Dems are out of power and/or their own tactics are used against them.

Things like Gerrymandering, Nuclear Option, IMpeachment, Government shutdowns are ALWAYS good and useful pieces to the Democratic process when Dems control the levers of power.

However...

When they aren't the ones controlling the levers it suddenly tuens bad and evil.

See also: "Dissent is Patriotic"

Absolutely - The most recent example is Elizabeth Warren threatening Govt. Shutdown -- The media that spent its time running around like headless chickens over Ted Cruz, etc. couldn't stop gushing about her bravery as she faced the demon of unjust legislation.

[miskie]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026037099

We lost but should still be in control. 

Pretty much, yeah. Over the coming weeks, we will see a turn for the desire of 'bipartisanship' at the DUmp - which only happens when the Dems are in the minority.

Except when Obama vetoes things.. Then they'll be in full agreement that there will be no calls for bipartisanship at all.

And even though the Republicans control both the house and senate, they will still be called the obstructionist party, and if Dingy Harry manages to filibuster, it will be a righteous act.

[GOBUCKS]

Gridlock in Washington is a much better state of affairs than "getting things done".

[JohnnyReb]

We could determine the number of senators by the number of square miles contained in each state....the largest get more and the smaller less. That should about wipe out blue New England. Of course it will hurt my little state of SC but hopefully fly over country would make up for it.

[thundley4]

We could determine the number of senators by the number of square miles contained in each state....the largest get more and the smaller less. That should about wipe out blue New England. Of course it will hurt my little state of SC but hopefully fly over country would make up for it.

Texas and Alaska would heavily influence the country.

[JohnnyReb]

Texas and Alaska would heavily influence the country.

Isn't that the basic DUmmie plan except I was just trying to swing it in our direction.

[Ptarmigan]

Proven, over and over and over again.  Petulant infants.

They are so infantile. 

[obumazombie]

Voters should have votes equal to their total tax payments.
One incarnation of owebuma would agree with that analasys.
He said we should have skin in the game.

[Texacon]

Voters should have votes equal to their total tax payments.
One incarnation of owebuma would agree with that analasys.
He said we should have skin in the game.

I've thought for a long time we should make it mandatory to pay taxes to be able to vote.  Don't pay federal taxes?  You don't get to vote.  Why should those on the dole be able to vote for their own pay increases?  I can't vote for mine.

KC

[txradioguy]

I've thought for a long time we should make it mandatory to pay taxes to be able to vote.  Don't pay federal taxes?  You don't get to vote.  Why should those on the dole be able to vote for their own pay increases?  I can't vote for mine.

KC

Or better yet...as Mark Levin suggests...move tax day to the first Monday in November.

[Karin]

Vattel (5,351 posts)
15. I think Wyoming, Idaho and Montana should be one state, and North and South Dakota should be one,

and Kansas and Oklahoma should be one. That would help make things fairer

     Stupidest post of perhaps all time!     "Fairer."   

Look at them over there, it looks like they think that by making profoundly stupid posts on a dopey internet board, they can abolish our very system of government.  "I'd whack the senate" indeed.  Don't you ever get embarrassed, DUmbasses?

[GOBUCKS]

   Stupidest post of perhaps all time!     "Fairer."   

Look at them over there, it looks like they think that by making profoundly stupid posts on a dopey internet board, they can abolish our very system of government.  "I'd whack the senate" indeed.  Don't you ever get embarrassed, DUmbasses?

Have they suggested that New York, New Jersey, and all those little county-sized shithole states to their north should also be made a single state?

[JohnnyReb]

OT....Learned something today, the largest state east of the Mississippi is Georgia.