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Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« on: December 29, 2014, 01:37:18 AM »
Omaha Steve is still alive. 

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$2.13 an hour means widespread sexual harassment in the restaurant industry

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/26/1346536/--2-13-an-hour-means-widespread-sexual-harassment-in-the-restaurant-industry

FRI DEC 26, 2014 AT 03:20 PM PST
$2.13 an hour means widespread sexual harassment in the restaurant industry

Women make up 66 percent of all tipped restaurant workers, which means a federal minimum wage of $2.13 an hour, a rate that hasn't changed in two decades. That means they live in or near poverty at high rates and are vulnerable to harassment both from managers and coworkers and from the customers on whom they depend for the tips that account for most of their income. According to a report from the Restaurant Opportunities Centers:

This dynamic contributes to the restaurant industry’s status as the single largest source of sexual harassment claims in the U.S. While seven percent of American women work in the restaurant industry, more than a third (an eye-opening 37 percent) of all sexual harassment claims to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) come from the restaurant industry.
The report found that 90 percent of women working for tips in the restaurant industry had experienced harassment, with much higher rates in states that have the $2.13 subminimum wage for tipped workers than in states that pay the full minimum wage.
According to one woman:

As a young woman who was dependent on tips, I felt a constant pressure to dress and act in ways I didn’t always feel totally comfortable with. This meant heels, make-up, close-fitting outfits—but it’s hard to maintain that ultra positive, friendly attitude the job requires while still standing up at the front for hours and hours in stilettos, usually doubling up on bussing tables for busier shifts. Especially as a woman, I couldn’t get tips if I didn’t embody a certain appeal. And a lot of the time my experience on the job was sort of demoralizing–I fielded a lot of sexist behavior, and it made me feel awful because I felt as if I could either have an income or a sense of self-respect.

It's crazy that the restaurant industry has been able to persuade lawmakers to preserve such a low wage for so many years. If there's a move to raise the minimum wage where you live, push to have tipped workers included.

Now right off the top of my head this should be a boring bonfire, right?

Well maybe not...

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1. Two dollars and thirteen cents is a disgrace. I don't care what business I owned, I just..

...couldn't pay my help that low.

If you had a business. Which you don't.

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pipoman (13,739 posts)
2. Even if their average hourly wage with tips

Was higher than any other job in the business?

ALERT!!!!

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4. Yep. The tips are extra. If it's a slow week, I'll eat the loss. If the business fails, it fails..

...but, at least, I can sleep at night.

Somebody else may feel free or think otherwise and act accordingly. I have no problem with that.
I'm not the holy judge.

The business would not get off the ground. Restaurant work is damned hard. Owning one is even harder. Dummie wouldn't make it two days.

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7. How valant

And silly. Waiting tables isn't easy...neither is cooking, washing dishes, bussing tables, or hostessing. My wait staff average hourly rate with tips in November (and consistently) was $14.50. Average hourly for cooks is $12...

"If the business fails, it fails.."

How cavalier. ...and sounds like someone never responsible for a business. Ten full time people depend on their paycheck to pay their bills and feed their families. ..not to mention 30 part time people. ...

ALERT!!!!!!

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BlueJazz (20,986 posts)
10. I'd give them plenty to live on for awhile. Remember I said "I feel that way"

No..I didn't earn it. I inherited it.

"sounds like someone never responsible for a business" You got me. Now you know why I don't have a business.
Plus I've said too much on this forum....

If I am reading this correctly...Dummie practically admits he could not own a business and admits he probably has never had a job. Bet he never donates any of his inherited wealth.

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5. But it's not.

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There is an automatic assumption that each tab will be tipped accordingly and the amount of the bill is reported to the IRS. The waitress has to pay taxes on an assumed amount. If she gets stiffed or less than is expected she still pays taxes on that amount. So, let's say she waits on a table of 10 college boys who run up a tab of say, 400.00, but leave no tip (you know how alcohol can get in the way of manners). She still has to pay taxes on the amount she should have been tipped. Not to mention the harassment she's bound to receive from a group like that.

Your assumption is ridiculous.

Yep.

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6. I don't know where you're talking about

It isn't that way in my state or Colorado. Wait staff declare tips at the end of the shift. I have never heard of any places doing what you're describing, frankly I don't believe it is even legal.

I have made no assumption, I manage a restaurant and server's average hourly wage including tips are consistently the highest in the restaurant...to the point I can't keep hostesses, they all move to wait after a month or two.

I have.

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8. Do you do the restaurant's taxes? (nt)

Catfight in the making?

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9. I manage a very large budget

Including a restaurant and 5 health care food service kitchens/dining rooms, my assistant is a CPA and I report to the CFO (also a CPA)...I approve every paycheck and weekly, monthly, quarterly, and annual report. I'll ask my assistant if she has ever heard of this.

Suuure you do.

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11. That would be great!

Check back once you've inquired. It kind of sounds like the particular restaurant you work for has found a way to make it more fair to their help. RE: Meeting the real minimum wage if not met with tips.

"States with lower tipped worker hourly rate still require the restaurant to guarantee non-tip minimum wage. IOW, if at the end of the shift when tips are declared the server doesn't make at least minimum wage the employer has to make up the difference."

Even then, think about it. Minimum wage for grueling work. They tip the busboys, bartenders and cooks out of their tips. And still, depending on the customers' tab and tip, they still may be paying taxes on money never earned. Some restaurants add 10% gratuity for a table with 8 or more people to help make up the deficit.

Nice way to put the idiot in his place.

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3. Just to be clear....

States with lower tipped worker hourly rate still require the restaurant to guarantee non-tip minimum wage. IOW, if at the end of the shift when tips are declared the server doesn't make at least minimum wage the employer has to make up the difference.

Not when I was working in the business. Might have changed. Dunno.


Now this is funny....

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12. I once worked at a character theme

restaurant. Each waiter/waitress had her/his own character, chosen by management. I was a Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader. The top of my white shorts came way below the hip and were so short they just barely covered my butt. I wore a shorty short little vest top with a star on each boob and high healed white boots. That's it. And this was a family restaurant. Some of the costumes fully covered the waiter/waitress. They based our costumes on our size and what we looked like in the costume.

Some guy actually bit me on the ass one night when I bent over to set down his drink. He and his friends got a good laugh out of that.

There was never a day that I made enough money in tips to make up for the kind of treatment I had to put up with.

So the dummie is saying that:

1. It is a family themed restaurant
2. The dummie was dressed as a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader with her ass hanging out and some guy bit her on the ass

 :lmao:



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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2014, 01:47:36 AM »
Omaha Steve has been busy tonite.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026015212

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014975359

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014975345

Trying to get that post count up to 50,000 before he becomes worm food.
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2014, 07:45:55 AM »
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12. I once worked at a character theme

restaurant. Each waiter/waitress had her/his own character, chosen by management. I was a Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader. The top of my white shorts came way below the hip and were so short they just barely covered my butt. I wore a shorty short little vest top with a star on each boob and high healed white boots. That's it. And this was a family restaurant. Some of the costumes fully covered the waiter/waitress. They based our costumes on our size and what we looked like in the costume.

Some guy actually bit me on the ass one night when I bent over to set down his drink. He and his friends got a good laugh out of that.

There was never a day that I made enough money in tips to make up for the kind of treatment I had to put up with.

DU is an interesting place. You almost always get to play a game of "choose the real point of the story" when you read a DU post.

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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2014, 10:04:18 AM »
...and....yet.....restaurants never seem to be out of waitresses or waiters. Hmm, wonder why that is, DUmbasses?
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2014, 10:56:03 AM »
Omaha Steve is still alive.

Now, that alone, all by itself, is funny.

I'm gonna do some research later to find out exactly when it was the big guy first announced his imminent demise, and go from there.

"Day 62: Omaha Steve still alive."  For example.
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2014, 11:44:52 AM »
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12. I once worked at a character theme

restaurant. Each waiter/waitress had her/his own character, chosen by management. I was a Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader. The top of my white shorts came way below the hip and were so short they just barely covered my butt. I wore a shorty short little vest top with a star on each boob and high healed white boots. That's it. And this was a family restaurant. Some of the costumes fully covered the waiter/waitress. They based our costumes on our size and what we looked like in the costume.

Some guy actually bit me on the ass one night when I bent over to set down his drink. He and his friends got a good laugh out of that.

There was never a day that I made enough money in tips to make up for the kind of treatment I had to put up with.


high healed white boots.

At least she is well heeled.

Some guy actually bit me on the ass one night when I bent over to set down his drink

That is going to take a lot of biting.
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2014, 11:58:31 AM »

high healed white boots.

At least she is well heeled.

Some guy actually bit me on the ass one night when I bent over to set down his drink

That is going to take a lot of biting.

How does one get bit on the behind when facing someone to set down his drink?  That ass must hang LOWWWWW
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2014, 01:30:37 PM »
I'm sure the laws vary state to state. GA's minimum is $2.13. When I worked at the Waffle House, if I did not make enough in tips to cover minimum wage, they were required to make up the difference. On the other hand, what tips were made OVER minimum wage were supposed to be reported. That was on the honor system as it was up to each server to enter tips at the end of his/her shift.
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2014, 02:22:14 PM »
I'm all for the $15/hr. minimum wage for restraunt wait staff.  :yahoo: No more tips.  :yahoo:
(Wondering how that would work for primitives)
Oh, yes, a mandatory 30-45% added tip to the bill.
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2014, 02:26:34 PM »
I'm all for the $15/hr. minimum wage for restraunt wait staff.  :yahoo: No more tips.  :yahoo:
(Wondering how that would work for primitives)
Oh, yes, a mandatory 30-45% added tip to the bill.

Are you kidding ?
Have you ever in your life seen a lib pick up a restaurant or bar tab?
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2014, 02:37:13 PM »
Are you kidding ?
Have you ever in your life seen a lib pick up a restaurant or bar tab?
That's why libs love taxes or anything that looks like taxes.
They never pay them and have no intention of ever paying them.

Remember, this is added to the regardless of the number in the party.


Just another thought...
Was this a gay bar? Was his uniform chosen, or did he actually pick it himself?
Perhaps he's changed his mind because he only got a nip on the bum.
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2014, 02:52:47 PM »
Now, that alone, all by itself, is funny.

I'm gonna do some research later to find out exactly when it was the big guy first announced his imminent demise, and go from there.

"Day 62: Omaha Steve still alive."  For example.

He announced his imminent deadness to the DUmp on Aug. 23, 128 days ago.

He claimed to have been diagnosed with terminal fattitude just before Christmas 2013, about 370 days ago.

Like everything else he's ever undertaken, so far he's done a very poor job of dying.
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2014, 03:59:01 PM »
He announced his imminent deadness to the DUmp on Aug. 23, 128 days ago.

Thank you; I just got in and was getting ready to look around for it.

I'm going to use this as my baseline, and so right now it's:

"Day 128: Omaha Steve still alive."
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2014, 04:45:27 PM »
How does one get bit on the behind when facing someone to set down his drink?  That ass must hang LOWWWWW

When I was a freshman in college, I knew of one young woman being bitten on the ass by somebody.  They wound up becoming a couple that weekend, and to my knowledge are still together, some 32 years later.
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2014, 04:50:28 PM »
When I was a freshman in college, I knew of one young woman being bitten on the ass by somebody.  They wound up becoming a couple that weekend, and to my knowledge are still together, some 32 years later.
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2014, 05:04:32 PM »

high healed white boots.

At least she is well heeled.

Some guy actually bit me on the ass one night when I bent over to set down his drink

That is going to take a lot of biting.

Super size meal?   :tongue:
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2014, 05:05:38 PM »
When I was a freshman in college, I knew of one young woman being bitten on the ass by somebody.  They wound up becoming a couple that weekend, and to my knowledge are still together, some 32 years later.

Love at first bite?   :tongue:
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2014, 05:07:28 PM »
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2014, 08:09:16 PM »
Love at first bite?   :tongue:


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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2014, 08:37:03 PM »
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I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2014, 09:27:45 PM »
Does Omaha Steve engage in sexual harassment and had any complains leveled against him?
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2014, 10:43:42 PM »
Does Omaha Steve engage in sexual harassment and had any complains leveled against him?

I believe he did... the guy knocked him on his fat ass and he hit his head on the urinal.   :-)

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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2014, 10:46:24 PM »
Why was this thread in the Video and Multimedia forum of DU anyway?
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2014, 10:54:15 PM »
Why was this thread in the Video and Multimedia forum of DU anyway?
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Re: Omaha Steve worried about sexual harrasment in restaurants
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2014, 11:05:44 PM »
Does Omaha Steve engage in sexual harassment and had any complains leveled against him?

Anyone old enough to be legally employed is too old for Steve.  He prefers to do his hunting at girl's high school basketball games.