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Re: oh geezuz (groan)
« Reply #50 on: October 14, 2013, 09:00:28 PM »
My dogs alert "Toots" when I can't it get up!

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Re: oh geezuz (groan)
« Reply #51 on: October 14, 2013, 09:07:08 PM »
A dog can be trained to sense that its owner can't hear, and that its job is to alert its owner when the dog hears some noise the dog interprets as indicating something or someone dangerous.

My grandpa told me he used to keep guinea fowl on the farm to alert them of intruders or predators. Of course they had dogs, but he said the guineas were more reliable to sound the alarm.

A cage with a couple of guinea hens might be easier for a restaurant to accept.
I assume they'd be covered as companion animals.
I hope the law doesn't discriminate against birds.

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Re: oh geezuz (groan)
« Reply #52 on: October 14, 2013, 09:30:51 PM »
You're a lousy excuse for a deaf person, a woman, a human being.

For some reason, I thought the whiny bitch DUmmy was an XY chromosome bearer*.


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Re: oh geezuz (groan)
« Reply #53 on: October 14, 2013, 09:37:14 PM »
nadin should get a service dog for spelling, and another for grammar.



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Re: oh geezuz (groan)
« Reply #54 on: October 14, 2013, 09:39:04 PM »
Well, just to let you know, some indoor/outdoor cats live a long time.  Our last two died at 21 and 22.  Dogs and cats can get along just fine living together.  I've usually had both at the same time and they got along better than the last two cats ever did.  Maybe that's why they lived so long, just to irritate each other.   :-)

Well, actually if it takes too long, I'm not going to wait until all the cats have sprung loose of this Mortal Coil.

I suspect a couple of dogs could get along a lot better with just one or two cats, rather than five of them.

So we'll see what happens.
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Re: oh geezuz (groan)
« Reply #55 on: October 14, 2013, 10:01:23 PM »
Seeing eye dogs should be accommodated wherever it's reasonable.
The others are just dogs.


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Re: oh geezuz (groan)
« Reply #56 on: October 14, 2013, 10:39:14 PM »
My very good friend Big Dog and I are naturally going to disagree--but not being primitives, it doesn't affect our liking for each other--because of wholly-different life experiences, but a dog can be of invaluable service to a deaf person.

A dog can be trained to sense that its owner can't hear, and that its job is to alert its owner when the dog hears some noise the dog interprets as indicating something or someone dangerous.

You're describing it perfectly, and I agree 100%. A Hearing Dog is trained to alert the handler to specific sounds- that is the Hearing Dog's "task" that is required of qualified Service Dogs under the ADA. Velvet's job is to hear things I can't, to alert me to certain sounds, and to show me the source of sounds.

Velvet is trained to warn me about smoke detectors, ringing telephone, car horns, sirens, doorbells, knocking (as on a door), gunfire, and the beeping on my stove. A handler or trainer can add new sounds as needed- I added the sounds of my cell phone and gunfire to her repertoire. Some dogs are trained to alert to crying babies or boiling water.

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One of the consequences of being deaf is that one isn't aware of what's behind one, or on either side of one; only what's in front of one.  Hearing people might hear a noise or something, and turn around to look, but I of course hear no noise.

The hippywife primitive Mrs. Alfred Packer's hippyhubby Wild Bill could be noisily trampling around inside this house right now, and I'd be the last person to know it (unless, of course, he was right in front of me).  He could come up to me from behind and garrote me, and I'd never know what happened.

Big Dog might have some other uses for a service dog, but that's what I consider the essential purpose of them; to warn one that danger might be in the offing.  I can't think of any other purpose, but perhaps he can.

A hearing dog also notices everything in the handler's environment that moves or makes noise. In Velvet's case, she raises her ears and points her nose toward sound and movement sources- which is something I need due to the nature of my hearing loss. I keep her in my field of vision, and I look at whatever she is responding to.

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Currently, my situation is that there's five cats here, who came with the place, who seem to "understand" that I can't hear, and raise a ruckus when they sense that something isn't kosher, and want to alert me about it.  They're very good at it, but alas I don't give them as much credence as I would a dog (since cats aren't as bright as dogs).

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Re: oh geezuz (groan)
« Reply #57 on: October 15, 2013, 09:19:22 AM »
Frank, Big dog, excellent answer, and nothing short of what I expected. Thanks for the insight.


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Re: oh geezuz (groan)
« Reply #58 on: October 15, 2013, 04:52:54 PM »
Frank, Big dog, excellent answer, and nothing short of what I expected. Thanks for the insight.

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You can perhaps see the difference in perspectives here; Big Dog uses a service dog for many more purposes, and with more sophistication.

If I had a service dog, I'd use it merely as a watch-dog, nothing else.

It's because Big Dog once had perfect hearing, and knows what he's missing.

Myself, never having known any other life but this, have no idea what I'm really missing, but as nothing can be done about it, just having someone (person, animal) watching my back is about all for which one can reasonably hope.
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Re: oh geezuz (groan)
« Reply #59 on: October 15, 2013, 05:05:04 PM »
Oh man.

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241. Uh huh. Tell Frank hi.

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