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Offline bijou

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Russian Scholar Says U.S. Will Collapse Next Year
« on: March 04, 2009, 10:49:02 AM »
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MOSCOW —  If you're inclined to believe Igor Panarin, and the Kremlin wouldn't mind if you did, then President Barack Obama will order martial law this year, the U.S. will split into six rump-states before 2011, and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order.

Panarin might be easy to ignore but for the fact that he is a dean at the Foreign Ministry's school for future diplomats and a regular on Russia's state-guided TV channels. And his predictions fit into the anti-American story line of the Kremlin leadership.

"There is a high probability that the collapse of the United States will occur by 2010," Panarin told dozens of students, professors and diplomats Tuesday at the Diplomatic Academy — a lecture the ministry pointedly invited The Associated Press and other foreign media to attend.

The prediction from Panarin, a former spokesman for Russia's Federal Space Agency and reportedly an ex-KGB analyst, meshes with the negative view of the U.S. that has been flowing from the Kremlin in recent years, in particular from Vladimir Putin.

Putin, the former president who is now prime minister, has likened the United States to Nazi Germany's Third Reich and blames Washington for the global financial crisis that has pounded the Russian economy. ...
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I think, as the article points out, that the interesting part is the indication it gives to future Russian thinking.
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Re: Russian Scholar Says U.S. Will Collapse Next Year
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2009, 01:19:33 PM »
Gosh, that would not be good for Obama's legacy.
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Re: Russian Scholar Says U.S. Will Collapse Next Year
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2009, 02:19:39 PM »
He's looking at us through the lens of the collapse of the USSR, the 'Republics' of which were not even remotely as ethnically homogenous as the States of the USA are with each other, and which was controlled by a single party apparatus inseparable from the civil government itself, and massively dominated by a single member (The Russian SSR).  When they failed, it resulted in a complete power vacuum and a desire by all the components to get out from under Russian domination while they could.  He is drawing far too much of an analogy with Russian and Soviet history in this hypothesis, the cultural and political landscapes are quite different here.
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Re: Russian Scholar Says U.S. Will Collapse Next Year
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2009, 06:18:48 PM »
Interesting read.

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Re: Russian Scholar Says U.S. Will Collapse Next Year
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 06:39:37 AM »
Good Morning,

I read the article about a month ago and he was predicting the breakup of the US.  On that part I felt he could be spot-on.  Where I disagree is this.  He indicated that the country would be split up into something like six sections with Texas part of Mexico and CA being Chinese etc. 

To me that indicated a decided lack of understanding about certain cultural aspects of the US.  If countries secede, out of that will arise a new republic based on many of the same principals as our founding fathers with safeguards agains too much government control.  Particularly in the case of Texas, the author forgets that such a large percentage of the population is armed.  He also neglects to understand that the huge geographical area that voted republican and that it is the inner cities, decendents of the LBJ unwed mother incentive program that voted democratic.  Now those folks would have a problem in those states who choose to secede, likely there will be migration and deck shuffling a good bit.

In both the case of AZ and of TX, they have been constrained by the federal government when it comes to protecting their borders.  Remove those constraints and it could get pretty interesting.  Mexico might become part of Texas but not vice-versa.

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