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Offline thundley4

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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2015, 10:26:59 PM »
Nope. I just want to quit having the government take my money to give to others. Pretty much the exact opposite. I don't want to be owned and in my area I pay more than 55% taxes. That's slavery and it's not enough for them.

DUmmies get things backwards. It's provide for the common defense and promote the general welfare.  They just see provide welfare.

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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2015, 10:45:28 PM »
DUmmies get things backwards. It's provide for the common defense and promote the general welfare.  They just see provide welfare.
They're greedy and conditioned to see "general" welfare as "individual" welfare.  The government wasn't writing checks to individuals for food or housing until FDR.

Gummint welfare has been the best vote-buying program of the last 70 years.
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2015, 11:21:27 PM »
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2. They want a war, they want to own black people. All these teaparty ****s want is a civil war so they can own black people again. They want to own people. And according to the FBI 3 out of the top 4 terrorist concerns in America are AMERICAN homegrown rightwing terrorism. Cant find the chart right now but it was on "Vice" and "Vice" tells it like it is.

This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen. You idiots put a HUGE portion on the dole and I don't want to pay for them NOW! They should work for their own damn sustenance. "I" want them as slaves? So I have to pay for their food AGAIN? Yeah, makes ALL the sense in the world.  :whatever:
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2015, 11:23:13 PM »
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2. They want a war, they want to own black people. All these teaparty ****s want is a civil war so they can own black people again. They want to own people.

No  we want black people to be free, not slaves to the Democrat Party as they are now.

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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2015, 11:25:27 PM »
Correction, this is the dumbest shit I've ever seen. No way in hell did this moron EVER live in MS. If you did, you lurking assholes get him to create an account here. I challenge the ****er. Grow some balls. Show up. I won't hold my breath:


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3. I lived in Mississippi for several years.

You wouldn't believe how many Deep South Republicans believe that if the Confederacy were to return they'd suddenly become modern-day Rhett Butlers and Scarlett O'Haras - at the expense of certain folks of color, of course. It rarely dawns on them most white Southerners were dirt poor in the Antebellum South - often even more so than slaves, who were at least someone's property.

This isn't to say all white Southerners feel that way (on the contrary); but those who disagree typically keep quiet, for fear of being ostracized. The easiest way to get along in today's Deep South is usually to go to church at least twice a week (preferably Baptist), vote for the most racist candidate; and every now and then, whistle Dixie.

Not one ****ing person in MS wants to have slaves running around. Slaves cost money. Purchasing a slave back then is the equivalent of 45K today. All farms are pretty much automated these days. Dumbasses. As for poor folk fighting for the Civil War, IT'S BECAUSE WE WERE INVADED BY A Damn SLAVE-HOLDING NATION! SLAVERY WAS NOT THE REASON!
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2015, 11:31:43 PM »
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All these teaparty ****s want is a civil war so they can own black people again. They want to own people.
After all these years I still am amazed at the rank ignorance and superstition at DU.
No one wants to own blacks again. Have you seen them? The inner city ones?
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2015, 07:01:49 AM »
Do Dummies really consider every Confederate soldier as evil slave-owners? 
Weren't many just defending their homes? 
That was indeed the case. Robert E. Lee himself was initially offered the opportunity to lead the Union Army, but turned it down and led the Confederate Army for that very reason.

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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2015, 08:07:57 AM »
They also seem to forget that blacks also owned slaves. If I remember correctly the very first true slave (not indentured servant) in the US was owned by a black man.

According to an article I read several years back from Amnesty International slavery is still ongoing in places in Africa.
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2015, 10:36:00 AM »
They also seem to forget that blacks also owned slaves. If I remember correctly the very first true slave (not indentured servant) in the US was owned by a black man.

They not only owned them, almost all of the actual slavers who captured them were either Black or Arab...who then sold most of them to middlemen, who were primarily from countries speaking English, Spanish, or Portuguese. 
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2015, 12:20:31 PM »
They also seem to forget that blacks also owned slaves.

Yes, they most certainly did...

http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Ellison

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If I remember correctly the very first true slave (not indentured servant) in the US was owned by a black man.

That is also correct.  Freed indentured servant, Anthony Johnson, set a precedent when he successfully sued to "keep" indentured servant John Casor as his servant for life even though John Casor had committed no crime (other indentured servants were help in perpetual labor as punishment for crimes - see John Punch).

Again the narrative fails to fit the facts; not that such silly things as "facts" matter to libtards.
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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2015, 12:25:19 PM »
I graduated from Nathan Bedford Forrest High School and our team name was the Rebels. Before that I attended JEB Stuart Junior High and our big rival was Jefferson Davis Junior High. In elementary school I lived near to Stonewall Jackson Elementary School.  My mom graduated from Robert E. Lee high school which is one of the oldest high schools in Jacksonville.

It's a lot simpler in West Virginia.

All that stuff is named after Robert C. Byrd.

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Re: Orange Confederate monument will include 32 rebel flags
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2015, 12:32:04 PM »
They not only owned them, almost all of the actual slavers who captured them were either Black or Arab...who then sold most of them to middlemen, who were primarily from countries speaking English, Spanish, or Portuguese.

This pisses me off, about how the history of slavery's portrayed.

I'm not excusing anybody who ever indulged in slaving, but Africans seem to be overlooked when it comes to the blame game.

Most, if not nearly all, slaves brought to the western hemisphere came from western Africa.

The Portuguese and the English had forts on the coast of western Africa; they didn't dare venture any further inside that continent until the late 1800s, decades after slavery had been abolished.

There was a reason; those of European derivation couldn't handle the climate or the terrain.

That's why, incidentally, in the British colonial empire, its colonies in western Africa were among the first granted independence; they wanted rid of them, as they'd never been able to establish themselves, as they had in southern Africa and eastern Africa.

During the slave-trading era, it was Africans who brought other Africans from the interior to those coastal ports, and sold them to slaver-buyers.
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