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Offline franksolich

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cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« on: April 30, 2013, 07:58:12 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022778290

Oh my.

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nadinbrzezinski (119,329 posts)   Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:55 PM

So Zimmerman gave up

the stand your ground hearing...gotta wonder what O'Mara (the defense lawyer) has under his sleeve...
 
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(I hate autocorrect)

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Egalitariat (1,593 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:02 PM

1. A no-brainer legally

In Zimmerman's best case scenario - one where a judge believes he didn't start the fight, Zimmerman thought Trayvon was going to beat him to death, and he shot only to protect himself - no judge would have granted him immunity knowing the outcry that would follow.
 
And he'd have to show a bunch of his Defense cards.

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mwrguy (811 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:09 PM

3. He is claiming simple self defense, not 'stand your ground'

He claims that he was attacked and did not have the ability to retreat, so SYG does not enter into it.

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VanillaRhapsody (234 posts)   Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:13 PM

5. "Not having the ability to retreat..."

Isn't that the very definition of the SYG law?

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ManiacJoe (5,509 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:26 PM

8. It is the exact opposite.

SYG says you had the ability to retreat but chose to stand and fight instead.

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brush (990 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 08:51 PM

19. Trying to avoid civil suit

If zimmerman's lawyer pulls off the most spectacular defense and gets zimmerman off, because of this new wrinkle, zimmerman cannot be sued in civil court.
 
He's rolling the dice and hoping he gets off in criminal court and then doesn't have to worry about civil suits at all.
 
He wants to kill and be completely unscathed, save for those couple of weeks he spent in jail when the judge caught him lying about having no funds.
 
Real good character guy this zimmerman.

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MellowYellow (23 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:12 PM

4. My whole problem with Zimmerman was that he followed Trayvon on foot.

If you're so afraid that someone might beat you death then why stalk them? If you can't go fist to fist then don't go looking for trouble.

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ProgressiveProfessor (22,071 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:51 PM

13. This was fully expected and is indicative of nothing

The other motions were much more interesting. The defense claims slow rolling by the state and may score some points with that. The motion to depose the family lawyer should be even better. Classic grounds for appeal if Zimmerman loses the motion and the trial.

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Kalidurga (4,802 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 08:26 PM

17. He really doesn't have much choice.

Sure he could go in front of a judge and explain how he was standing his ground. But, he would be very likely to lose that argument and he would give away his defense doing so.
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Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2013, 08:33:43 PM »
Well, at the time Zimmerman was attacked I thought he was walking back to his vehicle in the opposite direction as 0bama's adopted son. I think I have the wrong definition of stalking.

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Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2013, 08:41:36 PM »
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brush (990 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 08:51 PM

19. Trying to avoid civil suit

If zimmerman's lawyer pulls off the most spectacular defense and gets zimmerman off, because of this new wrinkle, zimmerman cannot be sued in civil court.
 
He's rolling the dice and hoping he gets off in criminal court and then doesn't have to worry about civil suits at all.
 
He wants to kill and be completely unscathed, save for those couple of weeks he spent in jail when the judge caught him lying about having no funds.
 
Real good character guy this zimmerman.

That is absolutely wrong. The stand your ground ruling would have made him immune from all further criminal or civil penalties if the judge had granted it. Now that he has waived that right, should he win in criminal court he is still can be sued in civil court for wrongful death. Think OJ he won the criminal case but lost in civil court.
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Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2013, 09:25:25 PM »
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MellowYellow (23 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:12 PM

4. My whole problem with Zimmerman was that he followed Trayvon on foot.

I can't wait for the trial for this bullshit line to be put to rest on the public record.
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Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2013, 10:02:30 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on April 30, 2013, 09:25:25 PM
I can't wait for the trial for this bullshit line to be put to rest on the public record.

They'll just ignore it at the DUmp.
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Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2013, 06:12:56 AM »
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MellowYellow (23 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:12 PM

4. My whole problem with Zimmerman was that he followed Trayvon on foot.

If you're so afraid that someone might beat you death then why stalk them? If you can't go fist to fist then don't go looking for trouble.
So when do you go in to testify seeing that apparently you were there watching the whole thing? :mental:
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Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2013, 12:57:38 AM »
So now shes a lawyer?
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Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2013, 07:04:15 AM »
Quote from: Airwolf on May 02, 2013, 12:57:38 AM
So now shes a lawyer?

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