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DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« on: August 12, 2011, 09:51:02 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4958678&mesg_id=4958694


A huge campfire.  I almost didn't know where to start.  Amongst all of the pissing and moaning, I found lots of DUmmie on Dummie action in this one, of which I rowed over three quick rounds. 

Friday Night Fight Night!  Let's meet the DUmmie's campfire we'll be fighting around this evening: DUmmie cal04!: 

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cal04   (1000+ posts)             Fri Aug-12-11 01:20 PM
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Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law   
   
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Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 02:01 PM by cal04
Source: Reuters

An appeals court ruled on Friday that President Barack Obama's healthcare law requiring Americans to buy healthcare insurance or face a penalty was unconstitutional, a blow to the White House.

The Appeals Court for the 11th Circuit, based in Atlanta, found that Congress exceeded its authority by requiring Americans to buy coverage, but also ruled that the rest of the wide-ranging law could remain in effect.

The legality of the so-called individual mandate, a cornerstone of the healthcare law, is widely expected to be decided by the U.S. Supreme Court. The Obama administration has defended the provision as constitutional.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/12/us-usa-healthcare-idUSTRE77B4J320110812




In ring number one, we have rfranklin vs. DesMoinesDem:

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rfranklin   (1000+ posts)             Fri Aug-12-11 01:21 PM
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1. Members of the court appointed by G.W. Bush Junior....
   
Wanna bet?

Yes.  How much do you want to lose?

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DesMoinesDem (36 posts)           Fri Aug-12-11 01:57 PM
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33. One Bush appointee, Two Clinton appointees

Winner:  DesMoinesDem



In ring two, HereSince1628 vs. alc:

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HereSince1628   (1000+ posts)             Fri Aug-12-11 02:01 PM
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37. Most laws are written so that parts can be struck down without
   
bringing down the entire law. It's called severability. It would have been real amateur hour to leave this out of a controversal bill.

In three, two, one...

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alc (536 posts)           Fri Aug-12-11 02:12 PM
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45. amateurs wrote this law
   
Roger Vinson, the federal judge behind today's ruling, agreed with plaintiffs who argued that if the mandate is unconstitutional, the entire law should be struck down.

That's because the legislation lacked the so-called "severability clause,"



http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/31/severability-clause-at-heart-of-judge-vinsons-ruling-that-obam/


I have no idea if that's a reliable source (first I found in google) or if the supremes would agree. But I have heard this many times before with convincing explanations from reliable sources. There's also the probability that severability doesn't matter since the mandate is what makes the rest of the bill work. Without it, many other things would have to go.

Winner: alc



The final bout of the night pits DUmmie Lasher vs. DUmmie No Elephants:

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Lasher   (1000+ posts)           Fri Aug-12-11 03:12 PM
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83. I also hope for the individual mandate's demise. It was a Republican idea to start with.
   
Insurance company senior executives must be shitting bricks right now.

Yeah, sure.   :rotf:

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No Elephants   (1000+ posts)           Fri Aug-12-11 03:18 PM
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85. Which Republican? I thought that the Nixon era plan had a business mandate, no
   
individual mandate?

And the individual mandate first showed up in Hillarycare?

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Lasher   (1000+ posts)           Fri Aug-12-11 04:45 PM
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106. Romney was for it, for one.
   
Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 04:46 PM by Lasher
http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2011/05/12/romney-w... /

I was not aware it was included in Hillarycare. Was it?

I must be living in that one time warp where Romney has never been a Senator or Representative.

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No Elephants   (1000+ posts)           Fri Aug-12-11 05:32 PM
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111. I Googled. I can't tell for sure without spending more time, but my best guess is
   
she had no individual mandate until she ran for President. IOW, I probably had bad info.

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No Elephants   (1000+ posts)           Fri Aug-12-11 05:51 PM
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114. Probably not necessary. My original info came from a message board, maybe even this one.
   
I should know better.

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Lasher   (1000+ posts)           Fri Aug-12-11 09:41 PM
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129. What the hell, Elephants, so did mine.
   
Sometimes it's just fine to speculate.

Oh no!  It looks like we have a tie, as DUmmies No Elephants and Lasher knock each other out!   :popcorn:





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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2011, 10:01:17 PM »
What a cluster you know what of a thread!
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2011, 10:03:42 PM »
 :rotf:  H5 for a great play-by-play, Battle.
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2011, 10:05:16 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on August 12, 2011, 10:01:17 PM
What a cluster you know what of a thread!

That's why I only bothered to bring over the little amount that I did.  That thread has enough mess DNA to be a thread twice its size.
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2011, 10:47:30 PM »
Quote from: Alpha Mare on August 12, 2011, 10:03:42 PM
:rotf:  H5 for a great play-by-play, Battle.
Ditto!  :cheersmate:
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2011, 10:48:54 PM »
That's not a camp fire, that's the MGM Grand! They must be knee deep in tears and snot over there.  :fuelfire:
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2011, 10:52:03 PM »
Great news. 

Great play-by-play.   :rotf:
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2011, 11:07:21 PM »
Quote from: Alpha Mare on August 12, 2011, 10:03:42 PM
:rotf:  H5 for a great play-by-play, Battle.

A most excellent way of displaying the primitives.

Remarkable, sir!

Awesome.
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2011, 02:59:47 PM »
That thread is epic - and if the Supreme Court strikes down what is Obama's ONLY tangible 'accomplishment', 'The One' will get to run on four years of debt & misery for naught for his reelection campaign.
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2011, 03:47:38 PM »
Quote from: miskie on August 13, 2011, 02:59:47 PM
That thread is epic - and if the Supreme Court strikes down what is Obama's ONLY tangible 'accomplishment', 'The One' will get to run on four years of debt & misery for naught for his reelection campaign.
I think you're forgetting that he's made it OK for active-duty military to participate in Gay Pride parades and be openly queer on base.
He's hoping to soon have an entire pejazzled brigade. (nadin will google that)
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2011, 03:59:12 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on August 13, 2011, 03:47:38 PM
He's hoping to soon have an entire pejazzled brigade. (nadin will google that)

I'm not sure I want to . . . :o
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2011, 04:25:31 PM »
That was an entertaining thread! I strongly recommend rowing over to the island and watching the 'splodin' heads!
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2011, 04:28:02 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on August 13, 2011, 03:47:38 PM
I think you're forgetting that he's made it OK for active-duty military to participate in Gay Pride parades and be openly queer on base.
He's hoping to soon have an entire pejazzled brigade. (nadin will google that)

I knew better than to google that.   :thatsright:
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2011, 04:45:58 PM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on August 13, 2011, 04:28:02 PM
I knew better than to google that.   :thatsright:

I'm not Googling it.

I remember a recent trend called Vajazzleing which involved attaching glitter onto places where it really doesn't belong. I'm assuming that Pejazzleing is the male equivalent.
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2011, 04:47:44 PM »
Oh, oh, oh...I thought of another accomplishment the Kenyan can brag about.

He shut down the U.S. space program, and redirected NASA to conduct outreach to muzzies, whatever that is.
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2011, 04:49:04 PM »
Quote from: miskie on August 13, 2011, 04:45:58 PM
I'm not Googling it.

I remember a recent trend called Vajazzleing which involved attaching glitter onto places where it really doesn't belong. I'm assuming that Pejazzleing is the male equivalent.


Astute observation.  Now, if I can fumble around and see where I left my jug of mind-and-eye bleach, I'll be better.
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2011, 05:12:09 PM »
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133. Only way to get that is to move to a country with advanced politics. U.S.A. aint it.
If that wasn't so pathetic, it would be funny.
Quick, define "advanced".  No swear words allowed.
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Re: DUmmies weep and gnash teeth as Obamacare starts to really go up in flames
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2011, 05:53:50 PM »
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harun (1000+ posts)        Fri Aug-12-11 10:10 PM
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133. Only way to get that is to move to a country with advanced politics. U.S.A. aint it.
"Advanced" as in the enlightened politics of North Korea? or the People's Paradise of Cuba?
No right wing radio there. No govt handouts either.

How about "Advanced" as in socialist Europe? Oh wait...their economies are crashing and they are undergoing austerity measures...No free handouts there either.

The chi-coms are embracing capitalism....muslims hate gays and atheists...Canada is turning conservative, and Israel has Jews...

What nations are the DUmmies preferred havens? Not sure they exist anymore...
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