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Offline debk

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Re: Are public workers paid too much?
« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2010, 03:28:21 PM »
And you exposed all of this to the public, right? All the teachers got together, kicked ass and took names, right? You had videos of this extravagance on all the local news channels, right?

What did the local PTA have to say? Everyone inundated the school board meetings in order to express their outrage, correct? You put your Mayor on the hot-seat until he/she investigated this waste, didn't you?

I've read all your complaints but nothing of what you and your fellow teachers, turned Real estate agents, tried to do about it. I'm the one who mentioned the real estate agents that were teachers, not Vivi.Sounds like you just quit and left the broken system as is.

Sorry, but you stated you made 40 grand a year. That's a helluva lot more than the average Joe with 2 or 3 kids in your school is making. Back when my kids were in school, we got a list at the beginning of every year on what we had to furnish for our kids. That's the way it ought to be, btw. At the time the wife and I both worked and rarely made more than 40 grand a year!

Oh, and they didn't teach my kids America was the lousiest place on the planet, or hand out condoms, or teach them Danny has 2 dads!

I have a hard time feeling sorry for teachers when in NYC, child molesters hang out in some office getting full pay and benefits because they cannot be fired! Washington DC spends more per student than any other district in memory, yet have continually had the worst education value for the buck! The union is a major factor when it comes to this. I forget where, but a district wanted to extend the school day 15 frikkin' minutes a day, teachers went ballistic and threatened to strike! Their gripe was they weren't going to get a pay raise for the extra 15 minutes!

From what I have heard and seen, teachers have it a lot better than most of the parents in their districts. The system has, over the years, turned into nothing more than a huge waste of taxpayer dollars! We need the Federal Government and the unions out of education!

I think it's important to remember that we live all over the country and that the teacher situation is different in each state and may or may not vary from county to county or city to city. All we can do is reference what we each are familiar with.
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Re: Are public workers paid too much?
« Reply #51 on: June 11, 2010, 04:26:10 PM »
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Being a young teacher, inexperienced with how things work, I didn't have any leverage to do anything...and you're right, the teachers could have done something but most of us were too beaten down to even think about it.

I understand completely, and also understand what you are sayin'. However, until we actually get a different frame of mind and understand it has to come from the ground up, we can't expect to make change!

I really didn't mean for it to sound so personal. I realize the hurdles you would have to overcome in order to even make any sort of den in the current system. That said, if you won't do it, who will? You were in the trenches. Many of the things you speak of are completely hidden from the parents who's kids go to your schools! I believe it is actually up to teachers like you in order to educate the public! How else are they going to know?

If you look at any videoed PTA meeting broadcast over the media, all we see is the liberal point of view!

We have to start somewhere, and I can't think of a better place than from the good teachers who are feeding our children's skulls full of mush! ( to coin a Rush phrase )

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I think it's important to remember that we live all over the country and that the teacher situation is different in each state and may or may not vary from county to county or city to city. All we can do is reference what we each are familiar with.

You are correct in thinking there are different situations thru-out the country, but, we need to get the feds and the unions out of every classroom in America! That will only happen if we put the pressure on the Feds! Until we hold the unions responsible for the spending and the poor performance, we can't put a dent in reform!
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