We are about to take a victory lap!

[DumbAss Tanker]

I'm expecting it to pass, too--but to get overturned by the myriad of Federal lawsuits that will be filed.

I can't say I'm counting on that, the Supreme Court is historically very unlikely to do anything substantive about a law passed by procedural irregularities, they generally only look at whether the law itself is unConstitutional in substance - not how it got enacted.  As the questions over Obama's birth certificate showed, the Supreme Court rarely takes any action to enforce the procedures required by the Constitution, usually only stepping in to deal with the results.

[BlueStateSaint]

I can't say I'm counting on that, the Supreme Court is historically very unlikely to do anything substantive about a law passed by procedural irregularities, they generally only look at whether the law itself is unConstitutional in substance - not how it got enacted.  As the questions over Obama's birth certificate showed, the Supreme Court rarely takes any action to enforce the procedures required by the Constitution, usually only stepping in to deal with the results.

DAT, there's a lot of things about this that are unconstitutional.  I'm not even thinking about how it gets there. 

[BEG]

I was looking up info on sebaceous hyperplasia (over active oil gland) on my forehead.  I have two and I asked the doctor who did my eye surgery to cut it off (they are really small, one was too small to even cut off) and he said he would but told me to remind him before surgery (but I forgot).  I have been on an antibiotic for the past two weeks and they are gone so I was looking up the antibiotic I was taking and if it could be the reason why they went away.  I found this little nugget about NHS (UK National Health Care).  The post was from 2004 and the subject was not about healthcare so it is an unbiased view of national healthcare by someone who is actually living with it.  

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Re:sebaceous hyperplasia causes/treatment?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday June 17, 2004, 08:19:10 PM »
Another newbie here  

I have sebaceous hyperplasia and i am also in my mid 30's. I too have oily skin and have been taking various antibiotics over six or seven years to help control my acne. It's taken around 12 months to get seen by a dermatologist in the UK and so far it's taken another 12 months to test which treatments he thinks are best for me.

First treatment was electrocautery where a spark generated between two electrodes is used to ZAP the gland leaving a small burnt pit the scabs come off within around 7-10 days leaving a small scar which over a period of months heal quite well. So far the small number of glands treated have not grown back

Second was cryocautery which trys to freeze the gland an causes it to wither. This had no effect on my problem but did help remove some of the skin of glands which had grown out a long way but it did not remove the problem gland.

Third was direct heat cautery where a soldering iron type tip is heated up and used to burn the sweat gland off the face. This removed the sweat gland but is also the one that has taken 6 months to heal. Even now i still have noticable scars on the few the consultatant trialed.

All these were done under local  which was very painful and caused tears to my eyes as he had to apply it several times around each gland to be treated.

My next appointment is in September (after my May one was cancelled by the hospital- grumbles about NHS waiting times) when i need to choose which treatment to go for. It's the electrocautery for me  

I asked about putting me on Accutane but he said it would clear the problem but once i stopped taking it the sebaceous glands would just start growing again.

One last treatment he did mention was having the glands scouped out under general anesthetic but this would leave bigger scars then the other treatments (although i don't think the scaring could get any worse then the heat iron)

One problem is that because my getting treatment has taken such a long time is that sebaceous hyperplasia has increased a lot in the two years and has really underminded my confidence socially and at work and has also lead me to be treated for depression but now i'm actually receiving some treatment it has given me a bit of the light at the end of the tunnel.

So there you go you idiots....that is your future.  I wonder what the ones who see psychiatrists regularly will handle having their appointments canceled and waiting over a year for an appointment for a specialist.  

[BEG]

Another point.  I was watching Red Eye the other day and he has some lib on from the UK.  They were discussing Obamacare and she admitted having to wait FIVE months for an xray but thought that X number of American's not having health insurance was worse.  The ones with out health insurance have healthcare, they can go into an ER and get an xray that day if they needed one.  She had to wait 5 months.  She didn't say what she needed one for but here if it isn't an emergency more often than not you will get the xray the same day.  I have never had to wait for an xray. 

[Airwolf]

Remember the National Recovery Administration, the centerpiece of FDR's New Deal, was found unconstitutioal and scrapped in 1935. That was the reason he wanted to pack the Supreme Court. Maybe we'll have another go-around of the Court slapping down a socialist president. That would be too beautiful to imagine. We'd hear all about the "selection" of Dubya again.

You can bet good money on it. Mark Levin has said that he intends to sue in court if it passes.

[shadeaux]

You know between the actual appointment time and prescription refill could be weeks maybe months in some cases.

The DUmmies are used to getting their fixes monthly like clockwork.  Will we see some cold turkey going on over there ?  Imagine half of them off their head meds.

OH LAWD.

I've had xrays even a cat scan in the same day.  I have never waited.

[Randy]

I've never waited longer than 2 weeks for anything, surgery included.
I'm feeling those days are fixing to end though.

[ChuckJ]

Another point.  I was watching Red Eye the other day and he has some lib on from the UK.  They were discussing Obamacare and she admitted having to wait FIVE months for an xray but thought that X number of American's not having health insurance was worse.  The ones with out health insurance have healthcare, they can go into an ER and get an xray that day if they needed one.  She had to wait 5 months.  She didn't say what she needed one for but here if it isn't an emergency more often than not you will get the xray the same day.  I have never had to wait for an xray. 

I have no insurance. I went to the doctor and had blood in my urine. He told me I needed an IVP (Intravenous pyelogram). This was just after lunch. Before I left his office he had me set up for an IVP at the hospital the next morning at 7 am.  At no time did anyone refuse to treat me because I had no insurance. Nor could I tell that they treated me any different than they would have treated someone with insurance.

[Randy]

I was sent by an Urgent Care Doc to the hospital once for an IVP and was IV'd and demeroled up on an X-ray table within 30 minutes on a Saturday afternoon. No insurance. 3 shot of fun juice, 2 IV bags of fluid and 8 or so X-rays in 2.5 hours for the stone to pass. Total cost was under a grand. Worth every penny too. 

[ChuckJ]

I think mine was around $700 to $800. I didn't get any Demerol.  Of course I wasn't having any pain. Just blood. Now a few days after the IVP came the urologist with the cystoscope. That involved pain.

[Freeper]

I'm confused for months a lot of the primitives have been complaining about the bill now all of a sudden they will be dancing in the streets if it passes?

For years the libs have said us conservatives who are not rich vote against our own interests if we vote GOP. This bill is clearly against not only our interest but the interests of the libs as well. Maybe they are slowly catching on that this is the foundation for what they really want, Single payer, perhaps when Obama convinced kucinich the primitives were convinced as well.