FULL STOP! We now have enough evidence to put him away

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Iwasthere (2,695 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216329703

FULL STOP! We now have enough evidence to put him away 10 times over

Or at the very least prevent him from EVER running for any office. I am sick of all the normalizing. DOJ PLEASE DO YOUR JOB! We shouldn't have to beg.

 

samsingh (16,403 posts)

1. you are so right. He's openly admitted it.

what is the DOJ waiting for? another coup that may destroy democracy.

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Fiendish Thingy (8,719 posts)

2. You don't know that they aren't doing their job. You're just impatient he's not arrested RIGHT NOW

 

Star Member hamsterjill (13,117 posts)

78. Why does it not bother you that a traitor is going unpunished?

That’s the part that I think about - as the proud American that I am. I don’t understand why anyone is upset that some of us want a traitor to be held accountable.

Some on DU are trying to frame the narrative that those of us who want justice are somehow impatient, negative and aren’t real Democrats. We are also supposedly ill-informed and stupid because surely the DOJ is working up an air tight case. Really? Please show me how you know that?

That narrative is completely untrue and unsubstantiated. We want the traitor put in jail so that democracy survives and we continue to have the freedoms we enjoy today.

You don’t know anything more about the workings within the DOJ than the rest of us do.

 

Star Member Irish_Dem (20,322 posts)

75. Unless you are a black male. Then the cops shoot you on the spot.

 

mitch96 (9,019 posts)

4. I don't know why but I think he his gonna get nailed on his business practice more than

the political bullshit he has been doing. Nip away at what his kids are doing and then nail him.
Of course the right is gonna say it's all political but the State of NY and the DOJ is the law..
YMMV

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maxsolomon (26,454 posts)

6. Evidence of what?

Incitement of riot? He speaks like a mob boss; he doesn't give direct orders.

What is the crime you'd have the DOJ charge him with?

Iwasthere (2,695 posts)

8. How about sedition. All the normalizing taints the seriousness imo

Sedition is a serious felony punishable by fines and up to 20 years in prison and it refers to the act of inciting revolt or violence against a lawful authority with the goal of destroying or overthrowing it.

maxsolomon (26,454 posts)

10. I agree that what he did was Sedition, and he incited the riot

But there has to be evidence to charge him, and it is a very hard charge to prove. He never gave direction to the 1/6 crowd that was explicit, like "go invade the capitol and interrupt the proceedings", "steal the elector ballots", "kill mike pence", or "kill nancy pelosi".

He said "fight like hell", "we're going to walk to the Capitol". Like a mob boss, he is very good at walking that line; everyone knows what he means but it's all deniable.

I don't believe the DOJ is going to charge a former President with Sedition unless there is a giant flashing neon sign of proof. The risk of him being found innocent at trial is large, and would give him immense power as a victim of Liberal persecution in 2024. He's already waving that bloody flag; he's been waving it since 2016.

Star Member uponit7771 (81,318 posts)

18. He admitted on video to firing Comey for investigating him, that's enough alone to charge him

 

maxsolomon (26,454 posts)

15. As President he had the right to fire Comey, didn't he?

OOJ = ?

Star Member uponit7771 (81,318 posts)

19. Please don't gas light, its rude. He can fire who he needs to but not for illegal reasons like ...

... he's being investigated like he admitted on video to firing Comey.

That's NO DOUBT enough to charge him with a crime and keep investigation open

The majority of DUrs aren't LIVs

maxsolomon (26,454 posts)

27. I'm not ****ing gaslighting you.

I am a cynic when it comes to DC and the DOJ. I don't believe there is any appetite in the DOJ for prosecution of a former president.

I don't know what a "LIV" is.

Star Member Emile (1,712 posts)

20. Inciting a riot is against federal law.

18 US Code 2101 and 2102

lagomorph777 (28,031 posts)

30. He gave direct orders on Jan 6th. It's on tape.

Star Member uponit7771 (81,318 posts)

11. At minimum there's enough to *CHARGE* Putin's Whore with a crime, that's not done either.

Star Member uponit7771 (81,318 posts)

23. Strawman, Putin's Whore could be charged with OOJ for firing Comey for investigating him ...

.. which he ADMITTED to on video.

There's been no charge even when he's out of office.

There's NO DOUBT enough evidence to at least CHARGE him with a number of crap he's admitted to, telling people the opposite at this point is gas lighting

 

Star Member uponit7771 (81,318 posts)

35. "It's POLITICAL,..." At least you're honest enough to say what everyone who's pissed at the DOJ

... has been saying and others have been dismissing.

Yeah, someone *
ADMITTING
* to committing a crime on video like Benedict Donald did with Comey is NOT SUPPOSED TO BE 'political' !!!

Cause then the DOJ can say "its political" for everything white, male, rich, hetero and Christians do !!

Our country is way too diverse for "its political" any longer, shit ... we might as well not have a judicial system if that's an answer that's supposed to be accepted.

Putin's what? Seriously? Are we allowed to casually use that sexist word now?


Putin's Whore, when has it been sexist to call a guy a whore ?!

Star Member uponit7771 (81,318 posts)

37. "Too bad. It is. Deal with it..." Nope, a more perfect union doesn't come if its just white males...

... who benefit for it.

I believe in what the country stands for and doing and think we're a nationa of laws not of men as much as possible, not perfect but the you and DOJ should be beyond "deal with it".

What you're now admitting to or accepting is the VERY THING we're complaining about the DOJ doing; they're text book saying what you're saying "... deal with it..." but with lack of action and relatively very few words.

... and no, I don't expect people to be this openly honest ... that's not what humans do as a pattern when it comes to these issues.

I don't agree with you on the principle of what the country is supposed to stand on when it comes to law.

"Deal with it" isn't written anywhere other than where the privileged can take advantage of it.

When? Oh please! Stop. --- BT-dubs: It's also a homophobic slur when used in that manner. (But I'm sure you knew that already, too.)


Link and quote to any credible sight claiming such, I've never heard this before ... regards

Star Member MineralMan (141,812 posts)

67. Who are "we?"

If you are part of that "we," and you have actual evidence, please present it in detail.

I suspect, however, that you do not actually have genuine evidence, though, but only mere suspicion and supposition.

You know who does have real evidence? The DOJ. It has tons of evidence, which is is using to decide what should be done. It's not as simple a decision as you seems to think it is. The DOJ knows what to do with evidence and how to present it to grand juries and in court. Do you know that stuff, too? Maybe you can get a job at the DOJ and help...

 

[SVPete]

The Cave's pantry is almost out of emojis, and it's DU's and my fault!

[67 Rover]

Star Member uponit7771 (81,318 posts)

18. He admitted on video to firing Comey for investigating him, that's enough alone to charge him

Inspector General said what about Comey?

[Ralph Wiggum]

Stop typing that insipid phrase "Full Stop".

Full stop.

[Muddling 2]

Stop typing that insipid phrase "Full Stop".

Full stop.

Okay.

Mahalo.

That is all.

[SVPete]

Stop typing that insipid phrase "Full Stop".

Full stop.

When I first read the thread title I thought that maybe mal had a new catch-phrase to replace, "That is all." Nope, not even that minimal originality and creativity.  

[YupItsMe]

I would pay $100.00 just to be in the same room with Uponit7771 (assuming I had bodyguards) watching even the midterm election results this November.   I think we're talking total meltdown, smash the TV kind of fun.

[DLR Pyro]

Iwasthere (2,695 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216329703

FULL STOP! We now have enough evidence to put him away 10 times over

Or at the very least prevent him from EVER running for any office.

afraid you cant win an election fair and square so you attempt to put your competition in a box.  Well done comrade

Oh and Ron DeSantis says hello from the sidelines and is ready to fill in if needed....

[DefiantSix]

Iwasthere (2,695 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216329703

FULL STOP! We now have enough evidence to put him away 10 times over...

Wait; WHAT?!?!

There's actual presents under the Fitzmas tree this time? Or is it just another note that says, "IOU one Fitzmas present"?

Are we still elebenty bid'ness hours from gathering in the town square to sing Fitmas carols around the blazing warmth of the burning Fitzmas liquor store?

We need to know these things, DUmmies!

 

[ABC-2]

Wait; WHAT?!?!

There's actual presents under the Fitzmas tree this time? Or is it just another note that says, "IOU one Fitzmas present"?

Are we still elebenty bid'ness hours from gathering in the town square to sing Fitmas carols around the blazing warmth of the burning Fitzmas liquor store?

We need to know these things, DUmmies!
 

Only "elebenty bid'ness hours?"  ... 

And I never did, receive my song sheet with the words to the Fitmas Carols.

Holy cow, What do I do now?!!! 

[DefiantSix]

Only "elebenty bid'ness hours?"  ... 

And I never did, receive my song sheet with the words to the Fitmas Carols.

Holy cow, What do I do now?!!! 

What's worse, I haven't even STARTED my Fitzmas looting yet. With less than elebenty bid'ness hours left now, the big box electronics stores are almost certainly out of 70" OLED TVs to steal already.

See what happens when the DUmp Monkies don't keep us informed???

[DefiantSix]

I would pay $100.00 just to be in the same room with Uponit7771 (assuming I had bodyguards) watching even the midterm election results this November.   I think we're talking total meltdown, smash the TV kind of fun.

I got $100 that says the DUmp is in full, "star morons only" mode by noon this November, and stays in lockdown for at least a week while Lord Marblehead mops up the blood and tears.

[ABC-2]

I would pay $100.00 just to be in the same room with Uponit7771 (assuming I had bodyguards) watching even the midterm election results this November.  I think we're talking total meltdown, smash the TV kind of fun.

Oh Mercy! November will take forever to get here.

I had better stock up now, on purchasing enough popcorn for watching the meltdown ...   

Especially with all the  supply chain problems at the moment.

[ABC-2]

What's worse, I haven't even STARTED my Fitzmas looting yet. With less than elebenty bid'ness hours left now, the big box electronics stores are almost certainly out of 70" OLED TVs to steal already.

See what happens when the DUmp Monkies don't keep us informed???

Ha! Ha!  Funny man!  Stop making me laugh.   

 I have a hard enough time trying to be serious in here!

  ~ ABC



 

[CollectivismMustDie]

Star Member Irish_Dem (20,322 posts)

75. Unless you are a black male. Then the cops shoot you on the spot.

Who knew...Ashley Babbit was a black male.

[ABC-2]

Who knew...Ashley Babbit was a black male.

  Good one CMD!!!