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Offline CC27

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Conflicted about Amazon.
« on: April 03, 2018, 07:06:47 AM »
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Conflicted about Amazon.

2 years ago, I remodeled my kitchen (as well as a couple of other rooms). The project took me 9.7 months, according to my spreadsheet. For those who have never remodeled a kitchen...it is difficult and stressful for a DIY person. I'd put it at one of the top 5 stresses in my life. 3 months of those 9.7 months was consumed by research on the computer. The rest was actual work time. The stress related to a kitchen remodel is caused by the following: having to worry about tolerances and clearances, having to measure everything 5 times before you order material (you waste a lot of money if you order the wrong size of something), and having to buy many specialized tools and parts (hinges, hinge mounting plates, knobs, pulls, LED strip lighting, LED can lights, belt sander paper, dowel center set, shelf liners, vent covers, ceiling fans, spray adhesive, etc... you get the idea). So many tools and parts.

Coincidentally, I had happened to join Amazon about 6 months before starting the remodel. As a result, I ordered everything possible from Amazon for the project. This proved to have several benefits such as: the ability to return something and get it replaced quickly if the item was incorrect, the ability to have a central location (my orders page) maintained for all time to see what items I bought, the ability to simply type in a part number or a fragment of a part description and have it instantaneously appear on my computer screen, and the ability to find tools that I have never heard of before to do a non-common task. In short, Amazon saved me a few months of time and a ton of frustration. I most likely would have been able to find every thing that I needed by either going to other websites, or going to brick and mortar stores and asking their staff for help. However, I'd probably still be doing that kitchen if I had done so. In short, Amazon saved me.

That being said, I'm conflicted concerning the treatment of their employees. I don't know what a good answer to this problem is. If Amazon is forced somehow to correct this issue, the cost of doing so will be passed on to the consumer, and they will feel that cost in terms of price, shipping costs, and efficiency. By the same token, having employees work under onerous conditions is not acceptable.

I've been trying to think of possible solutions that could allow local businesses to somehow compete with Amazon in terms of price and service. That would be ideal, but I have not been able to come up with a sustainable business model that would facilitate this competition.

In any case, what I do know is this. Any decisions or applied pressure on Amazon should be done by the consumer, not by the so called POTUS.

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Re: Conflicted about Amazon.
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2018, 08:18:34 AM »
The solution is to hire uneducated illegals, pay them sub standard wages and work them like mules. If they complain turn them over to ICE. Then you can get your goods at a low price you cheap inhumane bastard. :bird: :loser:
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Re: Conflicted about Amazon.
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2018, 08:29:13 AM »
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I've been trying to think of possible solutions that could allow local businesses to somehow compete with Amazon in terms of price and service. That would be ideal, but I have not been able to come up with a sustainable business model that would facilitate this competition.

Economies of scale notwithstanding even IF your local businesses could compete you would not get that entire list of benefits: centralized order tracking, ease of finding and ordering, quick returns, etc. etc. etc.

Bottom line: if you really cared about local businesses and Amazon's employment practices you would ONLY use local businesses.  In the clash between convenience and morality, morality LOSES in the progressive world!

DUmmies are so funny when they try to virtue signal when telling the truth they are self-centered tightwads just like everyone else (see "I hate paying taxes" thread Frank started).
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Re: Conflicted about Amazon.
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2018, 02:19:24 PM »
IIRC, Bezos is a lefty.
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Re: Conflicted about Amazon.
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2018, 02:27:35 PM »
Quote from: Skul on April 03, 2018, 02:19:24 PM
IIRC, Bezos is a lefty.

YRC. He also owns the WashPost, IIRC.
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Re: Conflicted about Amazon.
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2018, 06:39:28 PM »
Wait, we all missed something:
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That being said, I'm conflicted concerning the treatment of their employees. I don't know what a good answer to this problem is. If Amazon is forced somehow to correct this issue, the cost of doing so will be passed on to the consumer, and they will feel that cost in terms of price, shipping costs, and efficiency. By the same token, having employees work under onerous conditions is not acceptable.

But, DUmmy, I thought only greedy businesses did that?  All your lovely lefty types just ate the cost of increased regulation because they came from your god, Government?  Are you saying that businesses are allowed to be profitable in order to continue to provide goods and services to their customers and jobs to their employees?  You dirty CAPITALIST!
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Re: Conflicted about Amazon.
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2018, 07:46:34 PM »
It boggles my mind that the same morons who hate WalMart because of their 'Low' wages and competitive advantage over Mom-and-Pops think it's just wonderful to kill all the storefronts possible with Amazon and want to open the borders to illegals willing to work off the books for peanuts while collecting welfare.
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