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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2017, 01:06:08 PM »
Well, if they made a silencer that would hush a full auto BAR, I would for sure want one.
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2017, 01:07:00 PM »
Well, if they made a silencer that would hush a full auto BAR, I would for sure want one.

Oh, it can be done. But I wouldn't take any bets on how long it would last. hehe

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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2017, 05:03:28 PM »
Good to see the DUmmy know just as much about guns as they do everything else....except for cheating the government. That, they are in the 98th percentile.
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2017, 07:21:16 AM »
There's a chance that some of the Walmart's in smaller towns around here might carry them.

Really sad since I can remember when Sears, K Mart, Walmart, Montgomery Ward all carried guns.
I remember when Western Auto carried guns.

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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2017, 07:54:20 AM »
Where is democrat underground's resident gunslinger, Hoyt?

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One wants a suppressor, the other wants to go "full bore".
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2017, 07:59:25 AM »
I remember when Western Auto carried guns.

I recall my dad telling me he used to see wooden barrels even in the Ace Hardware when he was a kid, piled full of 1903's... pick one for like 10 bucks or something.
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2017, 09:42:40 AM »
I've heard rumors that some Walmart stores sell guns but none around here do. We only have one chain store, (http://www.ruralking.com/) that sells guns, otherwise you have to go to a gun store.
The two in my area have a small gun selection. But we are rural for the most part. Funny how I could tell that we were in a country area by looking at the magazine racks in the local grocery stores. Our old house it was rap and black hair magazines, here its guns and hunting.
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2017, 10:52:48 AM »
I recall my dad telling me he used to see wooden barrels even in the Ace Hardware when he was a kid, piled full of 1903's... pick one for like 10 bucks or something.
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There is a store in Easton PA (Sarco) that sometimes has "Barrel O' Mausers" Not 10 bucks but something like 3 for $150.00
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2017, 11:07:24 AM »
There is a store in Easton PA (Sarco) that sometimes has "Barrel O' Mausers" Not 10 bucks but something like 3 for $150.00

What chambering?  My dad has an old war trophy that my uncle brought back from the ETO, which my dad then had rebarreled to .30-06.  He also had the new barrel cut to a carbine length, and had a Mannlicher-style stock installed (which cracked around 1980 or so).
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2017, 11:39:08 AM »
What chambering?  My dad has an old war trophy that my uncle brought back from the ETO, which my dad then had rebarreled to .30-06.  He also had the new barrel cut to a carbine length, and had a Mannlicher-style stock installed (which cracked around 1980 or so).

I will check next time I go there which is not often. I'm not a Mauser fan but what I saw looked like standard (and somewhat beat up) military issue, what ever caliber that is. The last time there wasn't much good in the barrel, at least to my eye but I'm told you by others that sometimes you can do well. They also have a bunch of 20th century military rifles in good condition but at a higher price.

Anyway, I want a nice condition 1903 Springfield 30-06 and Lee Enfield 303. I have a 1917 "American" Enfield in 30-06 that my Dad bought way back from DCM and I also have mid 1950 M1 Garand that came from CMP a few years ago. I really need to get out and shoot them. If I could find a low cost good quality SKS and Nagant that would be nice also. Not. enough. time.
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2017, 02:26:19 PM »
I will check next time I go there which is not often. I'm not a Mauser fan but what I saw looked like standard (and somewhat beat up) military issue, what ever caliber that is. The last time there wasn't much good in the barrel, at least to my eye but I'm told you by others that sometimes you can do well. They also have a bunch of 20th century military rifles in good condition but at a higher price.

Anyway, I want a nice condition 1903 Springfield 30-06 and Lee Enfield 303. I have a 1917 "American" Enfield in 30-06 that my Dad bought way back from DCM and I also have mid 1950 M1 Garand that came from CMP a few years ago. I really need to get out and shoot them. If I could find a low cost good quality SKS and Nagant that would be nice also. Not. enough. time.

With Sarco they could be just about anything Mauser ever made, but the vast majority of Mauser patent rifles are either 7mm Mauser (Most Latin American rifles, especially Model 1893s and 1895s) or 8mm Mauser (Germany, her allies, the Turks, and Yugoslavian guns and most 1898s or their derivatives).  They made a bunch of them for more minor players, or licensed the production, in calibers like 6.5mm Swedish to 7.65 rounds of various dimensions.  Some few post-war rebuilds, like the Spanish FR8, are actually chambered for .308/7.62 NATO, but those are pretty hard to come by, especially at those kind of prices.  As long as they've got a bolt body and receiver, though, it's quite a bargain, as the Mauser small parts are hugely available and broadly interchangeable, and the action itself is a favorite starting place for custom building projects.
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2017, 02:37:37 PM »
With Sarco they could be just about anything Mauser ever made, but the vast majority of Mauser patent rifles are either 7mm Mauser (Most Latin American rifles, especially Model 1893s and 1895s) or 8mm Mauser (Germany, her allies, the Turks, and Yugoslavian guns and most 1898s or their derivatives).  They made a bunch of them for more minor players, or licensed the production, in calibers like 6.5mm Swedish to 7.65 rounds of various dimensions.  Some few post-war rebuilds, like the Spanish FR8, are actually chambered for .308/7.62 NATO, but those are pretty hard to come by, especially at those kind of prices.  As long as they've got a bolt body and receiver, though, it's quite a bargain, as the Mauser small parts are hugely available and broadly interchangeable, and the action itself is a favorite starting place for custom building projects.

Some say that you buy the three best in the barrel and assemble one worker and have a bunch of parts. They also have tables upon tables of spare parts for all kinds of guns but you I guess need to know what your doing which when it comes to military rifles I admit to being not that informed. Kind of a strange place. I assume that you would need to take a head space gage with you?
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2017, 05:16:21 PM »
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Anyway, I want a nice condition 1903 Springfield 30-06 and Lee Enfield 303. I have a 1917 "American" Enfield in 30-06 that my Dad bought way back from DCM and I also have mid 1950 M1 Garand that came from CMP a few years ago. I really need to get out and shoot them. If I could find a low cost good quality SKS and Nagant that would be nice also. Not. enough. time.

I had many chances for a 1903 but was young and dumb and didn't buy them. I do have an inherited Long Branch .303 that I have never fired. Now to get a 1903 I will be paying through the nose.
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2017, 10:33:07 PM »
Some say that you buy the three best in the barrel and assemble one worker and have a bunch of parts. They also have tables upon tables of spare parts for all kinds of guns but you I guess need to know what your doing which when it comes to military rifles I admit to being not that informed. Kind of a strange place. I assume that you would need to take a head space gage with you?

I've bought parts from Sarco for over 30 years, first through the mail and then on-line.  Never did visit them while I lived in NJ, though.  The Easton part is a relatively new adjunct to their operation, so they could get out from under increasingly-burdensome NJ restrictions on magazines, 'Assault weapons' as defined by NJ law and their parts, and just the problems of selling firearms in NJ generally.

If the SN matches on the bolt and receiver, and it seems to have the original barrel and has a used look to it, it was correctly headspaced for whatever round it shoots long ago.  I can't speak for license-built guns, but if Mauser built them they should have the last two numbers of the SN on most of the major parts.  Guns that were never issued may be reserve weapons that are short-chambered by about five thousandths, but those kind of pristine cherry pieces are not what you're gonna find in the sort of barrel lot you're talking about.  Other than re-assembling the inner guts of the bolt, there is nothing difficult or even complicated about putting parts on a Mauser.  The people at the store would be able to sell you the right parts, if they have them in stock, to replace missing parts, none of which are all that expensive or hard to find, aside from possibly the firing pin assembly out of the bolt.  There's a special tool for installing and removing the extractor, but installing one can be done fairly easily without the tool.  If they're short on helpfulness you could take a tablet with you and figure out the relevant part numbers from the Sarco website once you identified the model, then shop for those specific parts at the store.

Really wouldn't need the headspace gauge unless you bought a rifle without a bolt, or a mismatched bolt, but buying a boltless one for anything but a parts gun on another build would be rash, since a complete bolt might be as expensive as the rest of a beater rifle for some models, and even with a primo unmatched bolt there's no guarantee it'd headspace properly.
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2017, 10:38:37 PM »
There's a chance that some of the Walmart's in smaller towns around here might carry them.

Really sad since I can remember when Sears, K Mart, Walmart, Montgomery Ward all carried guns.

...I remember looking at them in the Sears catalog.  And I'm not *that* old.

Say around 1970.
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2017, 09:55:37 AM »
There is a store in Easton PA (Sarco) that sometimes has "Barrel O' Mausers" Not 10 bucks but something like 3 for $150.00
A few around here (SE Virginia) had a similar setup with $40 Mosin–Nagant. Bought a few then when Obama got into office sold them for $250 each!
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2017, 09:59:02 AM »
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I've bought parts from Sarco for over 30 years, first through the mail and then on-line.  Never did visit them while I lived in NJ, though.  The Easton part is a relatively new adjunct to their operation, so they could get out from under increasingly-burdensome NJ restrictions on magazines, 'Assault weapons' as defined by NJ law and their parts, and just the problems of selling firearms in NJ generally.

If the SN matches on the bolt and receiver, and it seems to have the original barrel and has a used look to it, it was correctly headspaced for whatever round it shoots long ago.  I can't speak for license-built guns, but if Mauser built them they should have the last two numbers of the SN on most of the major parts.  Guns that were never issued may be reserve weapons that are short-chambered by about five thousandths, but those kind of pristine cherry pieces are not what you're gonna find in the sort of barrel lot you're talking about.  Other than re-assembling the inner guts of the bolt, there is nothing difficult or even complicated about putting parts on a Mauser.  The people at the store would be able to sell you the right parts, if they have them in stock, to replace missing parts, none of which are all that expensive or hard to find, aside from possibly the firing pin assembly out of the bolt.  There's a special tool for installing and removing the extractor, but installing one can be done fairly easily without the tool.  If they're short on helpfulness you could take a tablet with you and figure out the relevant part numbers from the Sarco website once you identified the model, then shop for those specific parts at the store.

Really wouldn't need the headspace gauge unless you bought a rifle without a bolt, or a mismatched bolt, but buying a boltless one for anything but a parts gun on another build would be rash, since a complete bolt might be as expensive as the rest of a beater rifle for some models, and even with a primo unmatched bolt there's no guarantee it'd headspace properly.
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2017, 08:00:59 PM »
The DUmmies would shit themselves if they found out I walked into a gun store here in Virginia and and purchased a S&W M&P Shield 9mm in less than 10 minutes!
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Re: You deserve to lose your hearing if you choot gunz
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2017, 05:26:04 AM »
The DUmmies would shit themselves if they found out I walked into a gun store here in Virginia and and purchased a S&W M&P Shield 9mm in less than 10 minutes!

If I might ask . . . how much?  I saw a Shield .45 at a LGS for $10 over MSRP, last week.
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