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Parents Decry Electric School Buses As Iceboxes in Winter

https://pjmedia.com/catherinesalgado/2025/12/22/parents-decry-electric-school-buses-as-iceboxes-in-winter-n4947375

New York officials mandated that all school bus purchases be electric by 2027, and parents are already thoroughly disgusted with the purchases so far. Apparently, New York officials think they are saving the planet with buses that freeze kids like popsicles.

Electric vehicles (EVs) are always a disaster from start to finish, with their short-lived, expensive, and toxic batteries, which are so dependent on slave and child labor in Africa and China, and they simply don’t work the way they are supposed to. That includes heating in the EVs during icy winter weather.

While the electric bus rule is to apply across the state of New York, parents in the Lake Shore Central School District are the ones vocally speaking out. WIVB News4 reported last week that parents are worried about their children’s health as bus drivers turn down the heat in the buses or even turn it off altogether as they try to conserve battery life. In fact, that is a recommended practice for EVs, which perform very poorly in the wintertime. And that is exactly why they should not be used to transport children to and from school in freezing temperatures.

Putting it simply, bus drivers are turning down/off heat in the bus in order to reduce the very real risk of the buses getting stranded due to battery depletion with students aboard.

At least one EV bus manufacturer went bankrupt recently, so that mandated 2027 target date may not be achievable, not that envirocrats care about practical reality.

The DU OP'er is Orrex (66,588 posts).

In real life, this Trump supporter has a much loved DIL whose original family name was one of the most common family names in China.

In real life, this Trump supporter attends (almost 18 years) whose senior pastor is Korean and has other pastors whose ancestry is Korean, Iranian, Assyrian, and Indian.

In real life, this Trump supporter works in a building (9+ years with the company) where the most common first language is Mandarin, and the second most common might be Vietnamese.

In real life, this Trump supporter's neighbors include blacks, Hispanics, Indians, Iranians, and east Asians (that I know of).

In real life, one of the running event organizers whose events this Trump supporter does most (for almost 12 years) often is owned by a husband and wife, the wife being east Asian.

The specifics would vary, regionally, but I know I'm not even close to unique.

If I'm a "racist", Stormfronters (if the site still exists) would demand I surrender my Racist Card.

I would love to see DUmmies' Replies to a thread with the OP of:

I just learned my 70-year-old neighbor ...

... voted for Trump. What should I do with him?

The many Replies with silly stereotypes would be rated  .

angrycaveman (20 posts)

If there is something he can grab in his proximity, he likes to grab it.

Morning Joe was just disusing the Venezuela nonsense ...

Is Malaprop your first language?

If Trump "likes to grab" anything "in his proximity" why hasn't Trump "grabbed" Canadian or Mexican oil, since those are closer. And if Venezuela oil is "nonsense" why would Trump want it?

Ok, I missed this one when it was posted. This is the mental defect who hates hateful people but daily-posts a hate thread entitled "is he dead yet" at the DUmp. How would civilized and sane people measure the mental capacity of one who thinks this daily post makes him appear intelligent or witty...
These are among the DUmbest people on earth.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212677855

I regret referring to Trump supporters as "idiot racist ****heads."
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I met my first (AFAIK) Qanon today, and I realized just how grossly inadequate the term "idiot racist ****head" is to describe the catastrophically disastrous lunatics.
They are so far beyond simple idiocy, or racism, or ****headness that I confess I simply wouldn't have believed it if you'd described one of them to me.
Their minds are lost. They are full-blown cultists.
I once spent two hours in a one-on-one meeting with a fairly high-ranking Scientologist, and by comparison he seemed entirely sane and rational and full of good ideas.
The unhinged and frothing cultist I met this morning so exceeds my wildest concept of a Trump zealot that I honestly thought he was pranking me.
If only.
I knew that they were dangerous, but they're much, much worse than I'd imagined.
Holy shit what a seething cauldron of hideous mental dysfunction.
And to all you idiot racist ****heads lurking here with the intent of reposting this on your little circle jerk conservative forum, every last one of you can go **** yourselves, individually and collectively.

hahaha! The disconnect from reality is astounding. I love the q-anon reference, yet he can't see the plank in his own eye. There is so much fake shit posted at that place, q-anon would actually be proud of those low-iq vipers posting all of the ridiculous crap that they do.

Dustlawyer (10,536 posts)
35. And like Nazi Germany these people have been programmed to hate.
Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #1)
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 03:32 PM

The RW media has created this cult since Reagan. Trump's base cannot be swayed by facts or logic as they have been trained not to believe anything that doesn't align perfectly with their beliefs.

Until we can come up with a way to require some truth in the news, Americans cannot come together again.

Before I get hit with some Free Speech argument it is possible for the government to restrict speech if there is a compelling governmental interest, such as making it illegal to shout "fire" in a crowded theater if there is no fire. Fox News won an appeal out of Florida where it is ok for them to lie because Fox News was found to not be news... it is entertainment. Things like this need to be addressed legislatively once we can take the Senate and the WH.

NAZI'S man! they are everywhere.
Seriously, how can they not see it?  It's almost as if DU is 98% trolls. No human with an IQ above 50 would be able to miss it.

AnotherMother4Peace (5,009 posts)
6. Neither Lindsey Graham nor Scientologists will read anything "against" their cult. nt
Reply to Orrex (Original post)
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:34 PM

 

orleans (36,629 posts)
10. my god, orrex, how do you meet these people?
Reply to Orrex (Original post)
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:56 PM

i'm not sure i really want to know. i'm just glad i'm not aware of people like that.
and whatever you're doing & wherever you're at--please be careful.

He doesn't meet people like this DUmmy. Are you as stupid as he is for believing it?

angrycaveman (20 posts)

If there is something he can grab in his proximity, he likes to grab it.

Morning Joe was just disusing the Venezuela nonsense and the guest (didn't catch name) was trying to make this articulate educated explanation on why Trump is doing this. Took us back to inauguration speech regarding Panama Canal, fancying himself as having a Neo Con Monroe doctrine...but it's his last two comments that stood out...It's really based on how he operates businesses and accepting tribunals...If there is something he can grab in his proximity, he likes to grab it.

Um...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220883542

You lost me at Morning Joe new DUmmie