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Politics / Off the Deep End: Dems Make 'Abolish ICE' Official Position
« Last post by SVPete on August 18, 2026, 09:00:36 AM »
Off the Deep End: Dems Make 'Abolish ICE' Official Position

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2026/08/17/off-the-deep-end-dems-make-abolish-ice-official-position-n3818075

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Give Democrats at least this much credit for sticking to their priorities. After losing a national election largely on the issue of border security and immigration enforcement, the DNC wants to double down in the midterms.

Of course, given the DNC's cash position at the moment, "double down" is entirely figurative.

The DNC kicked off its summer meeting in Austin by deciding that voters got it all wrong two years ago. The committee that handles policy resolutions approved two proposed additions to the party's official positions in the midterms. The first would "reform" Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), while the second would abolish it altogether. The full membership passed both by unanimous acclamation:

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The Democratic National Committee adopted a resolution Saturday urging congressional Democrats to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), alongside a competing measure calling only for reforms to the agency, at the party’s summer meeting in Austin, Texas.

This comes as no surprise, since practically every Democrat candidate in this cycle has adopted both positions simultaneously. The few who oppose it, such as House Democrat Henry Cuellar in Texas, are keeping their mouths shut about it. The position of their party is that ICE should not exist, Border Patrol should not exist, no illegal aliens should be detained, and that every possible method of enforcement of immigration law should be prohibited.

Dem Party misleaders seem to believe that "Defund the Police" worked well in 2020, and simply was not pushed hard and far enough in 2024. I guess we'll see in November how successfully the Dems and their MSM-shills have demonized ICE and how well this works for the Dems.
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The DUmpster / Re: THE TWO SANTA CLAUS THEORY IS A REAL THING
« Last post by Ralph Wiggum on August 18, 2026, 08:58:02 AM »
I had not heard the term, but here's how W'pedia describes it, quite fifferently that 4bonhoffer, BTW, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Wanniski#The_Two_Santa_Claus_Theory :

I've also never heard of Jude Wanniski.

His "Theory", carried out, would benefit the economy two ways: government takes less $$ out of the economy by force; people invest less conservatively - = safer low-tax investments - and instead invest in businesses, which are higher risk, higher profit, and, paradoxically, result in increased government revenue. Arthur Laffer, at least, apparently predicted that paradoxic outcome.

Had never heard of this theory or dude either. Sounds like a "Nobel Prize in Economics" winner Paul Krugman, the former NY Slimes econ writer. Who has never met a prediction that didn't come true.

Minored in Economics in college by accident. Because of my core business school curriculum, had to take four Econ courses. Senior year, my faculty advisor suggested that I take one additional one, because that would enable me to get the 15 credit hours to graduate with a minor. Not that it has ever helped me attain a job, but back in the day it "looked good on a resume". But realistically, learning economics the proper way goes a hell of long way to understanding some complicated stuff.

It is mostly a dismal science, and surrounded and clouded by theory especially whether one falls on the supply or demand style economist scale. You can probably guess which one I trust and has been proven true.
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The DUmpster / Re: THE TWO SANTA CLAUS THEORY IS A REAL THING
« Last post by SVPete on August 18, 2026, 08:07:36 AM »
I had not heard the term, but here's how W'pedia describes it, quite fifferently that 4bonhoffer, BTW, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Wanniski#The_Two_Santa_Claus_Theory :

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The Two Santa Claus Theory
The Two Santa Claus Theory is a political theory and strategy published by Wanniski in 1976, which he promoted within the United States Republican Party. The theory states that in democratic elections, if members of the rival Democratic Party appeal to voters by proposing programs to help people, then the Republicans cannot gain broader appeal by proposing less spending. The first "Santa Claus" of the theory title refers to the Democrats who promise programs to help the disadvantaged. The "Two Santa Claus Theory" recommends that the Republicans must assume the role of a second Santa Claus by not arguing to cut spending but offering the option of cutting taxes.

According to Wanniski, the theory is simple. In 1976, he wrote that the Two-Santa Claus Theory suggests that "the Republicans should concentrate on tax-rate reduction. As they succeed in expanding incentives to produce, they will move the economy back to full employment and thereby reduce social pressures for public spending. Just as an increase in Government spending inevitably means taxes must be raised, a cut in tax rates—by expanding the private sector—will diminish the relative size of the public sector." Wanniski suggested this position, as left-liberal observer Thom Hartmann has clarified, so that the Democrats would "have to be anti-Santas by raising taxes, or anti-Santas by cutting spending. Either one would lose them elections."

I've also never heard of Jude Wanniski.

His "Theory", carried out, would benefit the economy two ways: government takes less $$ out of the economy by force; people invest less conservatively - = safer low-tax investments - and instead invest in businesses, which are higher risk, higher profit, and, paradoxically, result in increased government revenue. Arthur Laffer, at least, apparently predicted that paradoxic outcome.
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The DUmpster / Re: THE TWO SANTA CLAUS THEORY IS A REAL THING
« Last post by CC27 on August 18, 2026, 08:07:18 AM »
Revisionist history, aka lies. The Democrats forced through goobermint spending via Tip O'Neill during the Reagan administration. Admittedly, the Republicans have been just as guilty with loose spending especially since the Chinese Wuhan Red Death.

However, tax cuts raise revenue, and do not reduce it. Conversely, tax raises bring in less revenue to the government. The often mocked Laffer curve is real and correct.
Laffer is one of my favs
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The DUmpster / Re: THE TWO SANTA CLAUS THEORY IS A REAL THING
« Last post by Ralph Wiggum on August 18, 2026, 07:44:13 AM »
Revisionist history, aka lies. The Democrats forced through goobermint spending via Tip O'Neill during the Reagan administration. Admittedly, the Republicans have been just as guilty with loose spending especially since the Chinese Wuhan Red Death.

However, tax cuts raise revenue, and do not reduce it. Conversely, tax raises bring in less revenue to the government. The often mocked Laffer curve is real and correct.
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The DUmpster / THE TWO SANTA CLAUS THEORY IS A REAL THING
« Last post by CC27 on August 18, 2026, 07:07:51 AM »
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4bonhoffer (302 posts)

THE TWO SANTA CLAUS THEORY IS A REAL THING

Republicans have been using this since 1980 ( Ronald Reagan ) AND it works for them. Basically it is whenever republicans are in power you run up the national debt as Fast and far as possible. ( spending on projects that benefit your donors. Cut taxes for the 1% , wars for the military industrial complex etc. ) . Then when you are out of power you SCREAM about the debt ( that you created) and demand that democrats cut social programs.

This is real thing. You can easily google it , and yet for some god#*%#* reason the democrats NEVER F’ing mention it.
The two Santa clause theory should be a well known meme by now. The first thing a democratic politician should say when republicans start talking about the debt is “ there they go again with their two Santa Claus bs “

The republicans have just run up our national debt to the highest level in history. Hardly a beep about it, but if we regain control of the government I guarantee that the republicans and corporate news will be screaming about it. For the love of god , democrats , please start talking about it. It’s been played against us since the 80’s. It caused Clinton to cut back on social programs and limited what Obama could do. Again , every democratic politician should have THE TWO SANTA CLAUS THEORY as a major talking point.

https://democraticunderground.com/100221448466

WTF are you talking about
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No one ever brags about their losses, only their wins.

They always tell you how much they won, but never say how much they lost! :thatsright: :lmao:
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General Discussion / Re: A Women's League That Can't Define a Woman?
« Last post by Ptarmigan on August 17, 2026, 09:18:33 PM »
Caitlin Clark is the reason WNBA got popular. Wokeness ruined it.
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Entering the Gates of Lies: Unmasking the Climate Version of Theranos
https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2026/08/14/entering_the_gates_of_lies_unmasking_the_climate_version_of_theranos_1199986.html

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One of President Trump’s campaign promises was eliminating climate scams. As net-zero climate policies fade into the shadows, another climate scam is biting the dust. 

Bill Gates’s daughter, Phoebe Gates, may not have her father’s entrepreneurial talent, but she, too, frequently peddles climate alarmism. Mr. Gates, however, renounced climate doomerism last year in a widely-shared memo.

A recent media investigation determined the younger Gates and her cofounder, climate influencer Sophia Kianni’s self-described sustainable e-commerce startup, Phia, was fraudulently collecting sales commissions. Phia was marketed as a climate-friendly platform that directed shoppers to secondhand products. Unsurprisingly, the startup created its own climate of lies.

Climate change is a sham.
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Newly Minted Attorney General Todd Blanche Refuses NBC Host’s Pledge To ‘Always Act Independently’ Of White House

https://dailycaller.com/2026/08/16/todd-blanche-refuses-nbc-news-meet-press-kristen-welker-pledge-act-independently-donald-trump-white-house/

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Recently confirmed Attorney General Todd Blanche refused Sunday to take a pledge to lead the Department of Justice independently of political pressures by President Donald Trump and his administration.

In one of his first media interviews since his Aug. 8 confirmation by the Senate, Blanche told “Meet the Press” host Kristen Welker he doesn’t need to worry about Trump pushing him to cross an ethical or legal line.

“As we just heard in your address to the Justice Department staff this week, you said you and the DOJ will, ‘uphold the law without fear or favor.’ You, of course, used to be President Trump’s former personal defense attorney. Can you pledge that the Justice Department will always act independently of the White House?” Welker asked the attorney general.

“Well, there’s a big difference between saying, ‘We will always do our job and investigate any case’ and ‘act independently of the White House.’ No, I’m not going to pledge that. And no attorney general should ever pledge that,” Blanche said. He then argued that, if he were to pledge that, then it would mean “if President Trump says, ‘I want the Department of Justice to go after every violent criminal in this country,’ which is what he has said, what you’re saying to me is I should say, ‘No, sir, I’m not going to do it.’”

I'm beginning to think that some/many MSM Dem-shills are too stoooopid to notice that Trump Administration people come prepared to - and do - smack down the Dem-shills' gotcha "questions".
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