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These stories irritate me.  If you believe in it, and you support it, then you need to stay there and reap what you have sown.

If you flee what you caused, you should be stripped of all the taxes you would have paid should you have stayed for a period of maybe a decade.

KC
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The DUmpster / A fellow D.U.er friend was defending Bill Maher
« Last post by Texacon on November 25, 2025, 01:34:06 PM »
https://democraticunderground.com/100220825357


Thought I'd bring this over just to save it, and it has a pretty good reflection of DU as a whole in one very simple post.  I don't think several of these posts will last over there.


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samplegirl (13,599 posts)

Sat Nov 22, 2025, 09:33 PM
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A fellow D.U.er friend was defending Bill Maher
to me tonight on the phone. It ended in a an argument.
Sorry I can't watch Bill Maher because I think he's an asshole.
As far as I'm concerned he flip flops more than Newt Gingrich.
He was blaming D.U. for not liking him.

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Halicarnassus (27 posts)

17. And that's fine!

Reply to samplegirl (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 03:14 AM

It sounds like you had a healthy, perfectly reasonable discussion. There’s nothing more American.

My vigilant defense of Bill Maher is mostly a reaction to the extra vitriol he seems to receive here. It’s the same hate that’s also reserved for Senator John Fetterman. It’s silly. The moderate wing of the party is as large (if not larger - it fluctuates), as the progressive wing. I can only shake my head with a smile at the bull$h!t hurled weekly at Bill, that would never, NEVER be tolerated if said about sacred cows like Maddow, Colbert, AOC, Sanders, Mamdani, et al.

I know this is a progressive-leaning site, but Dean or Kucinich weren’t nominated in 2004; Sanders wasn’t nominated in 2016; he along with Warren didn’t come close in 2020; and again in 2024, though… that doesn’t really count as it was weird. But that should tell you where the party is.

So you don’t like Bill Maher, great. Don’t watch him. And then don’t comment on him. And I’ll do the same with Rachel Maddow and her interesting… “theories.” Or Oliver and Colbert’s brand of humor. And we’ll all get along better looking ahead to next year!

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Emile (39,411 posts)

18. You call AOC, Mamdani, and Bernie cows. Then you defend

Reply to Halicarnassus (Reply #17)
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 06:21 AM

Bill maher a moderate republican-libertarian.

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KLK1972 (6 posts)

51. They said "sacred cow" which isn't the same pejorative....

Reply to Emile (Reply #18)
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 10:27 AM

I don;t think they were saying those figures are "fat" or any of the typical things people use "cow" as a slur or insult over. They're saying that they are treated as though they are untouchable- above reproach, etc.

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Emile (39,411 posts)

53. Welcome to du.

Reply to KLK1972 (Reply #51)
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 10:31 AM

The term "sacred cow" is offensive.


Here is the post that is DU in a nut shell.  Perfectly summed up.


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Abolishinist (2,846 posts)

65. Welcome to DU!

Reply to Halicarnassus (Reply #17)
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 05:12 PM

You've already bumped into one of the more divisive 'topics' on this site, at least that I'm aware of.

That being said, what I and others have found is that very few of the 'FBM' crowd are able/willing to engage in a reasonable conversation. Typically they start out with nothing more than exaggeration and name calling and move on.


Yup, not much more accurate than that about the entire site!


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Paladin (32,079 posts)

25. You're right. Your friend is wrong.

Reply to samplegirl (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 07:43 AM

Maher is untalented hack who has been regularly trashing Democrats for years. Once he did that overnight jaunt to trump's White House and emerged with tales of what a nice guy trump is, all Democrats should have been through with him. I walked away from his shows and his insults years ago; never have regretted it.

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samplegirl (13,599 posts)

40. That's my point I've seen

Reply to Paladin (Reply #25)
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 09:06 AM

him trash democrats. If my friend wants to watch him and listen to his shit~~~ so be it!
I'm a leftist and since maga swooped this country your either with us or against us.
Maher is wishywashy!
He can take his spin on comedy and shove it!

Oh and hes not even funny!

My friend use to be a leftist but I question that these days.


And now we find out who she's bickering with ...


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JohnnyRingo (20,310 posts)

33. What's wrong with that guy?

Reply to samplegirl (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 08:40 AM

I hope you and him are still friends. Sometimes you just have to let it go.
Besides, I'm sure he loves you very much.

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samplegirl (13,599 posts)

42. He's got nothing good to say

Reply to JohnnyRingo (Reply #33)
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 09:13 AM

And neither does the pizza hole you choose to buy food from that voted for you to have less healthcare and fair drug prices! While they vote for every Rebulicans across the board!
This stuff use to matter to you.


Fun thread if you have a little time.

KC
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Here’s What Kash Patel's FBI Uncovered About the Trump Assassination Attempt

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/11/25/heres-what-the-fbi-uncovered-about-the-trump-assassination-attempt-n4946381

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Herridge asked Patel why Crooks, at just 20 years old, was fixated on taking out Donald Trump as he moved toward the GOP nomination last year. At the time, the FBI claimed ideology played no role. But that was not the case.

“He [Crooks], as has been publicized, had a basically hateful relationship with the United States government, talked disparagingly about both political parties, to include President Trump, and talked about the need to take matters into his own hands,” Patel said of the shooter's motive. “And, unfortunately, that’s what he did.”

“When we came in, our job was to both treat the president as a president [of] the United States and [as] a victim and remind the American public that there were three other victims, and, tragically, one person [Corey Comperatore] even lost his life,” Patel explained. “So, there are certain victims’ rights that we have to honor.”

Patel continued, “But what we did and what we presented and what we released is the full findings that we are able to publicize to the world that definitively answer questions regarding Butler. We seized dozens and dozens of devices. We exploited and got into every single one of those devices. We got on to all the online platforms and social media sites of the assailant, of Crooks. And we did a recanvassing just to double down since we got in and inherited this case, and we gave out information to Congress and the public that the prior administration refused to do.

My emphasis. The FBI did find all Crooks's online stuff recently made public, but LIEden's InJustice Department and FBI withheld all that info from Congress and the American public. Why it was withheld? My evidence-free speculation is that they believed it would keep the assassination attempt at the forefront of people's minds at that this would hurt Kammie's chances of becoming President.
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Breaking News / Re: Worth Knowing, Probably Not Quite Threadworthy 11/25
« Last post by SVPete on November 25, 2025, 12:58:28 PM »
Remember All the Illegals Sleeping in Airports? The Biden Administration Was Behind It All

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/amy-curtis/2025/11/25/biden-admin-housing-illegals-in-airports-n2666972

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During the Biden years, social media users were not surprised to see videos of illegal immigrants flooding airports, often living in terminals for extended periods of time.

It turns out that wasn't an accident. A new report, from the Senate Commerce Committee, says the Biden administration forced airports to house illegal immigrants, posing a serious safety risk to airports and American travelers.

That report alleges the Biden administration directed several government departments, including the Department of Transportation (DOT), Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), and Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA), and the Federal Transit Administration (FTA) to house migrants in airports.
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he Biden administration allegedly pressured US airports to house migrants despite warnings that it could compromise safety and put travelers at risk, according to a bombshell Senate report.

The 47-page document, “Flight Risk” released by the Senate Commerce Committee, alleges the White House directed the Department of Transportation (DOT), Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA), and Federal Transit Administration (FTA) to find airport facilities for shelters or processing centers for migrants.

According to the report, the administration instructed DOT and FAA to “inventory available facilities” at both federally owned and local airports and to “divert federal resources” to support migrant arrivals.
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The DUmpster / Re: Looks Like Krasnov Won't Be Invading Venezuela
« Last post by SVPete on November 25, 2025, 12:22:34 PM »
Remind me, how far from Venezuela are:

* Kaliningrad and Vladivostok;

* Shanghai and Guangzhou;

* US naval bases in the Gulf of America, the Caribbean, and the Atlantic?

How many aircraft carriers does Russia have? How many aircraft carriers does China have and how often would they need to refuel enroute to the Colombian coast?

Putin's and Xi's promises are pretty hollow. And why are DUmmies cheering Putin's promise?
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Looks like he finally got bit by the taxes imposed by those he funded. He fed others to the crocodile hoping not to be eaten himself.
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Lakshmi Mittal, the Indian-born steel magnate, has left Britain amid sweeping tax hikes by the country’s ruling, leftist Labour Party, to which he had donated millions of pounds in the past. Once a fixture at the top of The Sunday Times Rich List, he is now a tax resident of Switzerland and plans to spend much of his time in Dubai. At his 2008 peak, his wealth was estimated at £27.7 billion, equivalent to approximately $34 billion. Even now, with a fortune of ~£15.4 billion (~$19 billion), he would have ranked among Britain’s richest residents.

Mittal’s exit is widely linked to the abolition of the “non-dom” tax regime, which previously allowed foreign residents to pay British tax only on income earned within the country. One adviser close to the family said, “The issue was inheritance tax. Many wealthy people from overseas cannot understand why all of their assets, wherever they are in the world, should be subject to inheritance tax imposed by the UK Treasury. People in this situation feel they have little choice but to leave and are either sad or angry to be doing so.” The UK levies up to 40 percent inheritance tax, while places like Dubai impose none, and Switzerland typically does not tax inheritances for children.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2025/11/24/foreign-billionaire-who-donated-to-far-left-labour-party-now-leaves-country-after-helping-wreck-it/
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The DUmpster / Re: Looks Like Krasnov Won't Be Invading Venezuela
« Last post by ADsOutburst on November 25, 2025, 11:13:09 AM »
::)

Even if Trump was planning to invade Venezuela, don’t you think planners and advisors would have thought of this already?
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The DUmpster / Re: Looks Like Krasnov Won't Be Invading Venezuela
« Last post by DUmpDiver on November 25, 2025, 11:01:34 AM »
This is concerning as DUmmys are never right in their predictions and I don't want an invasion of Venezuela... just an air campaign to end the communist Maduro malfeasance.

Good point. DUmmies just guaranteed a Marine beach assault.
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The DUmpster / Re: A Pre-Emptive Strike By The Democrats
« Last post by SVPete on November 25, 2025, 10:56:12 AM »
"Pre-Emptive Strike" ... "Pre-Emptive Strike" ... "Pre-Emptive Strike" ... trying to preempt what? Trump's next decisive action ... and where?
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