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The Bar => The Lounge => Topic started by: mamacags on August 01, 2014, 06:39:40 PM
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I was thinking about something the other night when I couldn't sleep. I just wondered how people think about this issue. I am not talking about humans, or ET even. Any kind of life including bacteria type things or things we could never even understand. Thanks
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Hey Mama! Long time no see. Hi5 just because I missed ya.
I do not believe Earth has been visited by intelligent aliens. But I'm open other life. Most likely we will encounter microbial life.
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Care to guess how I might have answered?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZhtT-dUyo[/youtube]
:-) :popcorn:
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I think that it's pretty arrogant for us to think that we are the only intelligent life forms in the galaxy. Furthermore, why are there depictions of "aliens" throughout time immemorial?
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Given the immense size of the universe, odds there is some sort of life there. To what extent or type, I'm not to sure about that.
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There almost has to be some form of life elsewhere in the galaxy or universe. However, I do not think any extraterrestrial life forms have visited Earth, unless you count bacteria or viruses.
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I think so, but the more we learn about other solar systems, the more unusual ours looks by comparison. Earth has the right gravity, the right tectonic activity level, is in the 'Liquid water zone' distance from its star (Which is also the right size and radiance), the right chemical composition, and it's tidelocked to a single disproportionately-large satellite uniquely among the planets in this system.
I think that combination of life-favoring conditions is going to prove to be monumentally rare, notwithstanding all the Carl Sagan 'Billions and billions' kind of thinking.
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Strictly based on the probability the there almost has to be life else where. Setting probability aside and looking at the evidence then the answer is no. There is no empirical evidence right now that supports the existence of live, much less intelligent life.
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Strangely enough, 50 years ago, I had a conservative physics professor that made a good jab at explaining this very question to the affirmative. At that time they estimated that there were roughly 23 trillion stars in the universe....a lot more now. But anyway, it went something like this....
If there are 23 trillion stars in the universe and if only 1% of them can have planets then there are 230 billion stars with planets. If only 1% of those that do have planets can have life on them then there are 2.3 billion stars with planets that have life on them. If only 1% of those that do......and so on and so at a 1% rate until you get down to, "There are 2,300 planets out there with life even more intelligent than the planet earth".
It's an almost mathematical fact that there is life out there. And if you believe in a God that created the universe and think that he can only handle one screwed up planet in it, then he ain't as great a God as we give him credit for being. I think we have brothers and sisters out there somewhere and the great distances and difficulties of meeting them between us and them is by design. By the time we evolve to the point we can meet them, we will have evolved to the state of mind and behaviors that God has intended for us.
....and that just about maxes out my moonbat quota for this week.
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Care to guess how I might have answered?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZhtT-dUyo[/youtube]
:-) :popcorn:
I answered the same thing. H5 to be given--one already was given to moma for including 'Teh JOOOOOOOOOOOS!' option twice. :cheersmate:
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Strangely enough, 50 years ago, I had a conservative physics professor that made a good jab at explaining this very question to the affirmative. At that time they estimated that there were roughly 23 trillion stars in the universe....a lot more now. But anyway, it went something like this....
If there are 23 trillion stars in the universe and if only 1% of them can have planets then there are 230 billion stars with planets. If only 1% of those that do have planets can have life on them then there are 2.3 billion stars with planets that have life on them. If only 1% of those that do......and so on and so at a 1% rate until you get down to, "There are 2,300 planets out there with life even more intelligent than the planet earth".
It's an almost mathematical fact that there is life out there. And if you believe in a God that created the universe and think that he can only handle one screwed up planet in it, then he ain't as great a God as we give him credit for being. I think we have brothers and sisters out there somewhere and the great distances and difficulties of meeting them between us and them is by design. By the time we evolve to the point we can meet them, we will have evolved to the state of mind and behaviors that God has intended for us.
....and that just about maxes out my moonbat quota for this week.
Mathematical probability doesn't equal certainty. As my atheist friends like to point out to me that even though the mathematical probability of the existence of an intelligent designer is almost certain it doesn't constitute certainty that the Designer's is real.
I'm not saying that there is no extraterrestrial life, I'm just stating that there is no concrete proof of it. My mind is open to the possibility of life existing out there.
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We have too many Aliens. I would prefer to see them outside the atmosphere.
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We have too many Aliens. I would prefer to see them outside the atmosphere.
Rest assured that NASA is well ahead of you on that...
[youtube]www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncBSOyte6lA[/youtube]
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Definitely. Angels do not live within our atmosphere.
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Definitely. Angels do not live within our atmosphere.
Arent they in Anaheim?
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Arent they in Anaheim?
Thought they were in the outfield.
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Occasionally on my shoulder.
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Occasionally on my shoulder.
And if you're anything like me.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/thundley4/angel_zps812eb050.png)
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Just so long as your guardian angel doesn't look like this...
(The Weeping Angels from Dr Who)