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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 03, 2014, 05:56:34 PM
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big_dog (907 posts)
Gen. Dempsey: Army May Still Pursue Charges Against Sgt. Berghdal
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big_dog (907 posts)
6. The London Sunday Times report is troubling (about what he might have been doing in Pakistan)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305184/Bowe-Bergdahl-Taliban-claim-captured-U-S-solider-teaching-fighters-bomb-making-skills.html
yeoman6987 (1,644 posts)
8. Great. Just what we need.
I think the military is going to have to do a VERY thorough exam on him both physically and mentally.
TwilightGardener (41,854 posts)
2. Of course--the question is, what mental and physical state is he in,
to be able to face charges and participate in legal proceedings.
joanbarnes (752 posts)
4. GW Bush also deserted....
951-Riverside (5,065 posts)
7. 5 Taliban were released to win back a deserter?
There has to be more to this.
The Obama admin can't be that stupid.
(http://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/news-in-pics/2012/01/18/tommy-lee-jones2.jpg)
DeadLetterOffice (182 posts)
16. All of this media frenzy...
...accusing this man of this that and the other. Whatever else 'the truth' turns out to be, it seems safe to assume he's had an awful 5 years, and his 'safe return' has turned into a free for all. 'Trauma' doesn't even begin to cover it. I keep waiting for the headline that says they've found him dead by self-inflicted means.
Me too.
Submariner (7,739 posts)
21. Bush got away with being a deserter
of course his father was the Director of the CIA at the time, so that probably kept Dubya out of the brig.
So if the SCOTUS appointment to the presidency can desert and get away with it, Bergdahl should get off too.
randys1 (1,127 posts)
26. Make sure and do everything you can, General, to harm the memory of this so Obama gets no
credit, please make sure and do that, will ya...
Make sure you make it look like Obama owed the guy money and this was his way of paying him back...
We don't swear oaths of loyalty to presidents and respect has to be earned. Even obedience demands leadership; if nothing else Obama show obey something other than his own cynical purposes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014817923
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All they can do is bring up Bush. This guy may have aided and abetted the enemy, and they merely scream Bush.
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951-Riverside (5,065 posts)
7. 5 Taliban were released to win back a deserter?
There has to be more to this.
The Obama admin can't be that stupid.
What about "that treacherous?" It's one or the other, DUmmie. Pick.
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Can anyone explain how he left a PFC and came back a Sgt?
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951-Riverside (5,065 posts)
The Obama admin can't be that stupid.
Yes. Yes they can. And you are too.
DeadLetterOffice (182 posts)
I keep waiting for the headline that says they've found him dead by self-inflicted means.
That would be acceptable to me. Though I would prefer a court martial and a hanging.
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Must be the DUmbasses have a base camp at Kinkos to get more details on President Bush.
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OMGosh this is sickening. Even those who are starting to 'get' it can only talk about how bad this is for O'bama! **** that!! How bad is it for the troops who died looking for this POS and their families. Please buy a clue DUmbasses!!
KC
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OMGosh this is sickening. Even those who are starting to 'get' it can only talk about how bad this is for O'bama! **** that!! How bad is it for the troops who died looking for this POS and their families. Please buy a clue DUmbasses!!
KC
Gptta have a job for that. Clues are expensive, you know.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/Wag_The_Dog_Poster.jpg)
Obie is playing 3D Chess. Benghazi? Gone. VA? Gone. Fast and Furious? Gone. And the GOP driven to distraction like a dog in a meat market, they got so many bones they don't know which to chew on next. Next, paint the party as full of insane conspiracy nuts who only want to taint the first black president's legacy. Low information voters are easy to convince.
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Can anyone explain how he left a PFC and came back a Sgt?
I don't know, but I heard it was automatic due to length of service. However, I also heard today that it's being suspended for now.
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Quote from: FlippyDoo on Today at 06:26:44 PM
Can anyone explain how he left a PFC and came back a Sgt?
I don't know, but I heard it was automatic due to length of service. However, I also heard today that it's being suspended for now.
Up to SPC, you can be promoted automatically. SGT (E-5) and above has schooling requirements (NCOES) prior to promotion. Up to E-4? Fine..... whatever. After that, it's bullshit.
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It's "circle the wagons" time with liberals. It's *always* circle the wagons time with liberals.
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It's "circle the wagons" time with liberals. It's *always* circle the wagons time with liberals.
After eight years with Chief Obunga they are going to be one dizzy bunch.
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Can anyone explain how he left a PFC and came back a Sgt?
He accrued the required amount of time-in-grade while being "held", and received an automatic promotion in absentia.
I'm not familiar with any of the more (last 20 or so years) recent conflicts/captives, but it was not uncommon for captives in the Viet Nam conflict to be promoted while being held captive. For example, McCain was advanced to Commander, and IIRC, Perot's running made, Admiral Stockdale was advanced to Captain while he was captive.
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The Obama admin can't be that stupid.
It occurred to me that Obama is guilty of so much stuff people may find it hard to believe they / he are so stupid.
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DeadLetterOffice (182 posts)
I keep waiting for the headline that says they've found him dead by self-inflicted means.
Little do these DUmbshits realize, if the Regime's propaganda agencies ever report this treasonous bastard "dead by self-inflicted means", it'll be because the lad detonated his explosives belt in a elementary school yard or something.
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He accrued the required amount of time-in-grade while being "held", and received an automatic promotion in absentia.
I'm not familiar with any of the more (last 20 or so years) recent conflicts/captives, but it was not uncommon for captives in the Viet Nam conflict to be promoted while being held captive. For example, McCain was advanced to Commander, and IIRC, Perot's running made, Admiral Stockdale was advanced to Captain while he was captive.
Same thing for MIA's My Crew Chief (E-4)and Platoon Leader (O-3) went missing in 1968. They are listed in the VN Wall as SSG and LTC. I don't know at what point they stop promoting them.
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I don't know, but I heard it was automatic due to length of service. However, I also heard today that it's being suspended for now.
Its automatic promotion to SPC (E4) then promotion board to SGT(E5). He would ahve stayed in the running just like any other missing service person. His promotion to SSG(E6) is on hold pending investigation.
The initial 15-6 investigation could not convict him of desertion because with him gone they could not complete the case. Now that he is back I will wait for the new 15-6 with bated breath. Barry can't allow this to get away from him. I almost think Barry will give him a presidental pardon if it starts turning 'bad' for Barry's PR.
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Can anyone explain how he left a PFC and came back a Sgt?
Promoted by the Taliban?
Cindie
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Barry can't allow this to get away from him. I almost think Barry will give him a presidental pardon if it starts turning 'bad' for Barry's PR.
Which Hillary will have to defend/contend with.
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You know what? I trust our soldiers immensely and really trust their opinion. If I saw a majority of our soldiers saying that he needed to be left alone I would step back. They wouldn't denigerate their own brother if they had any doubt in his story. Right?
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Which Hillary will have to defend/contend with.
That bandwagon has already left the station...
http://www.netfriction.com/DisplayMsg.asp?ForumID=91&Msgid=2172883&page=1&Title=The%20Lib's%20goddess%20Is%20Throwing%20The... (http://www.netfriction.com/DisplayMsg.asp?ForumID=91&Msgid=2172883&page=1&Title=The%20Lib's%20goddess%20Is%20Throwing%20The...)
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Look at these assholes from the thread:
Response to big_dog (Original post)
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:41 PM
madville (1,868 posts)
28. If nothing else
It certainly killed the VA reporting in the media
Response to madville (Reply #28)
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:50 PM
big_dog (911 posts)
30. true it neutralizes the VA story all the way to the midterm elections
:bird: :bird: :bird:
**** you, DUmbasses. Veterans are suffering and dying, for lack of healthcare. There are plenty of us out here who will not let this be "neutralized for the midterms." Die in a fire, assholes.
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That bandwagon has already left the station...
http://www.netfriction.com/DisplayMsg.asp?ForumID=91&Msgid=2172883&page=1&Title=The%20Lib's%20goddess%20Is%20Throwing%20The... (http://www.netfriction.com/DisplayMsg.asp?ForumID=91&Msgid=2172883&page=1&Title=The%20Lib's%20goddess%20Is%20Throwing%20The...)
Any bets she backs up the bus and runs his ass over again with Benghazi?
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^I would need to lay odds.
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Any bets she backs up the bus and runs his ass over again with Benghazi?
I don't think she'll do that. It leaves her open to too many questions/attacks by Republicans and other, more-to-the-Left Democrats (think Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren).
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**** you, DUmbasses. Veterans are suffering and dying, for lack of healthcare. There are plenty of us out here who will not let this be "neutralized for the midterms." Die in a fire, assholes.
Makes one wonder what Nixon's die hards would have said to each other political boards existed back then, doesn't it?
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I don't think she'll do that. It leaves her open to too many questions/attacks by Republicans and other, more-to-the-Left Democrats (think Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren).
Not if she can pin all of it on him. The further we go into obinga's 2nd term, the more radioactive he's becoming. Hillary is going to have to get some major distance from him, and Benghazi may be the big cloud she can make in the water to hide anything else that may come up.
Just a thought.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/Wag_The_Dog_Poster.jpg)
Obie is playing 3D Chess. Benghazi? Gone. VA? Gone. Fast and Furious? Gone. And the GOP driven to distraction like a dog in a meat market, they got so many bones they don't know which to chew on next. Next, paint the party as full of insane conspiracy nuts who only want to taint the first black president's legacy. Low information voters are easy to convince.
Except the fact that with Benghazi, people died. With the VA, people died. With Fast and Furious, people died. With this asshole deserter, people died. People have died in ALL of what the DUmbasses call "Fake Scandals", yet who do they rally behind? The incompetent dipshit in the White House, the Americans that died be damned. It's either incompetence, or it's malicious intent. Those are the only two options. Both impeachable as hell.
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Up to SPC, you can be promoted automatically. SGT (E-5) and above has schooling requirements (NCOES) prior to promotion. Up to E-4? Fine..... whatever. After that, it's bullshit.
Only other way is a battlefield promotion based on need. There was absolutely no need to promote this deserter. This was politically correct bullshit. His ass should have been courts-martialed in absentia and demoted to Private E-1 slick sleeve.
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Except the fact that with Benghazi, people died. With the VA, people died. With Fast and Furious, people died. With this asshole deserter, people died. People have died in ALL of what the DUmbasses call "Fake Scandals", yet who do they rally behind? The incompetent dipshit in the White House, the Americans that died be damned. It's either incompetence, or it's malicious intent. Those are the only two options. Both impeachable as hell.
With the 5 that were released you can bet your ass more will die by their hands too.
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With the 5 that were released you can bet your ass more will die by their hands too.
Not to worry, the WH will classify everything and the press will cover it up.
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http://online.wsj.com/articles/chuck-hagel-unaware-of-soldiers-killed-in-search-for-bowe-bergdahl-1401886798
"I don't know of circumstances or details of U.S. soldiers dying as a result of efforts to find and rescue Sgt. Bergdahl," said Mr. Hagel.
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http://online.wsj.com/articles/chuck-hagel-unaware-of-soldiers-killed-in-search-for-bowe-bergdahl-1401886798
That's the standard reply of this administration. Nobody knows a damn thing that is going on.
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joanbarnes (752 posts)
4. GW Bush also deserted....
Submariner (7,739 posts)
21. Bush got away with being a deserter
of course his father was the Director of the CIA at the time, so that probably kept Dubya out of the brig.
I was waiting for the DUmmies to beat this dead horse again. I'm still waiting for the proof to back up their claims that Bush deserted.
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That's the standard reply of this administration. Nobody knows a damn thing that is going on, and anything bad that is going on is Bush's fault.
added to your comments....
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I was waiting for the DUmmies to beat this dead horse again. I'm still waiting for the proof to back up their claims that Bush deserted.
Dan Rather has the proof.
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Up to SPC, you can be promoted automatically. SGT (E-5) and above has schooling requirements (NCOES) prior to promotion. Up to E-4? Fine..... whatever. After that, it's bullshit.
I believe the school requirements are waived if they're classified as PWs.
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I believe the school requirements are waived if they're classified as PWs.
But he was never classified as a POW.
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But he was never classified as a POW.
I don't know what he really was called in the personnel system, but it couldn't have been just AWOL or he would have been DFR'd after 30 days and classed as a deserter, which means he never would've been promoted. Of course the highest Army leadership levels are as political as any Congressman, and they can change the rules for any enlisted promotion as they see fit, though the Secretary of the Army would have to be involved for the three most senior grades.
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Little do these DUmbshits realize, if the Regime's propaganda agencies ever report this treasonous bastard "dead by self-inflicted means", it'll be because the lad detonated his explosives belt in a elementary girls' school yard or something.