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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on May 24, 2014, 07:04:20 PM
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malaise (118,818 posts) http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10024994928
Turn on CNN right fugging now - Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
When will this insanity stop? We don't have to live like this.
Chris Martinez's father in tears at the death of his son.
I'm sorry. Who is Chris Martinez?
oneofthe99 (661 posts)
2. Who's Chris
No, not my mole...
rollin74 (867 posts)
3. victim in last night's Santa Barbara shooting
father just held a brief news conference
Ah... what does the NRA have to do with this?
oneofthe99 (661 posts)
10. As facts emerge I'm guessing this shooter
will probably have a regiment of prescribed psych drugs , will have many people who knew him say
there was something off ,It would be nice for a change to hear what his treating physician
has to say. Blaming the NRA will prove not accurate
It won't matter. It won't matter his dad gave money to teh left and is rabit anti-gun. Or that is son (the shooter, not the victims) was rich, rabidly leftist, oviously sick, and the help he should have gotten was not there due to parents not wanting to hurt their son's reputation.
All that matters is that the left will puch to ban guns, again.
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malaise
Chris died because of irresponsible politicians and the NRA
The DUmmy seems... personally invested in this Chris person's story.
I can see blaming King Putt, the most irresponsible politician in the United States. Much like the left's 6 year long "blame Bush"- a-thon, we will be able to blame King Putt for every bad thing that happens for a long, long time.
But why the NRA? Did the shooter hear the voice of Charlton Heston from beyond the grave?
If I heard the voice of Charlton Heston from beyond the grave, I'd expect him to scream, "Soylent Green is made of people. It's People!"
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As I said in another thread, I thought California's strict gun control was supposed to prevent things like this from happening.
My BIL, sister, and their three girls are moving out of that hellhole within two weeks. Can't happen soon enough.
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Blaming the NRA for firearm homicides is like blaming the AAA for vehicular homicides.
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This is an example of what really aggravates me about the anti-gun-nut faction.
During a Saturday news conference, Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown said the rampage left seven dead — including the suspect — and 13 others injured in the hospital. Some were injured by gunfire, some were hit by a vehicle.
Three of those killed were apparently stabbed repeatedly at the apartment of where Rodger lived. Their identities have not been released.
Of those killed from gunshot wounds, two were women shot outside of a sorority house, the ....
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/05/24/315425094/shooting-near-uc-santa-barbara-leaves-3-dead
There are posts on various blog sites, newspaper articles, discussion fora, and the like talking about "mass shootings" and the need for more gun control. There is absolutely NO mention of 'knife control' or 'vehicle control' despite many of the dead/injured being that way due to stabbings and automobile collision.
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Leave it leftist vermin to use their own dead child to politicize something. :whatever:
Utter filth...
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As I said in another thread, I thought California's strict gun control was supposed to prevent things like this from happening.
My BIL, sister, and their three girls are moving out of that hellhole within two weeks. Can't happen soon enough.
Yea, thank god California has a 10 day wait period, New York style assault weapon registration,one purchase a month limit, and "clip" size limitation etc. etc. What will they dream up next?
Is your sister moving to New York? I would say it is a wash as far as 2nd amendment freedom.
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Current California law on who is prohibited from owning a firearm. Let's see how many this punk violated and how the DUmp monkeys would have changed it by adding or rewording it so that it would have prevented this tragedy.
I highlighted my guess.
Who is prohibited from owning or possessing firearms?
Any person who has a conviction for any misdemeanor listed in Penal Code section 29805 or for any felony, or is addicted to the use of any narcotic drug, or has been held involuntarily as a danger to self or others pursuant to Welfare and Institutions Code section 8103 is prohibited from buying, owning, or possessing firearms or ammunition. There are also prohibitions based on mental conditions, domestic restraining/protective orders, conditions of probation, and specific offenses committed as a juvenile. A list of prohibited categories is available on the Bureau of Firearms website.
(Pen. Code, §§ 29800, 29805, 29815, 29820, 29825, 29855, 29860, 29900, 29905, 30305; Welf. & Inst. Code, §§ 8100-8103; 18 U.S.C. § 922, subd. (g), 27 C.F.R. § 478.22.)
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Yea, thank god California has a 10 day wait period, New York style assault weapon registration,one purchase a month limit, and "clip" size limitation etc. etc. What will they dream up next?
Is your sister moving to New York? I would say it is a wash as far as 2nd amendment freedom.
Seeing that my BIL will be stationed at the Pentagon, they're moving to Virginia.
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This morning it was reported the kid had high functioning Asperger's syndrome. He had been seeing a therapist since he was 13. I think there were other things going on with him in addition to the Asperger's.
He probably should have never been living on his own.
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This morning it was reported the kid had high functioning Asperger's syndrome. He had been seeing a therapist since he was 13. I think there were other things going on with him in addition to the Asperger's.
He probably should have never been living on his own.
Hm-m-m...
So did Adam Lanza, who shot-up Sandy Hook.
How many Proglodytes run around saying they have Asperger's (so they can collect disability)?
Aren't they also bitter, angry fantasists?
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Hm-m-m...
So did Adam Lanza, who shot-up Sandy Hook.
How many Proglodytes run around saying they have Asperger's (so they can collect disability)?
Aren't they also bitter, angry fantasists?
There sure seems to be a common thread with these mass murderers. I understand that Asperger's is on the same spectrum with autism, and we now have one out of every 58 births as being diagnosed with some degree of autism.
I think this is an area that really needs a lot more attention than it's getting, especially when these kids (mostly boys) hit their late teens/twenties.
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The problem is a lot more related to the ACLU than the NRA.
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Wasn't there a more recent event where a kid went on a rampage stabbing his school mates? What ever came of that?
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Calif. shooting suspect feared police would discover his plan weeks before rampage
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/24/at-least-3-dead-in-shootings-in-santa-barbara-area/
Earlier Saturday, attorney Alan Shifman issued a statement saying Peter Rodger believed his son, Elliot Rodger, was the shooter. It was unclear how the son would have obtained a gun. The family is staunchly against guns, he added.
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Wasn't there a more recent event where a kid went on a rampage stabbing his school mates? What ever came of that?
Yes, there was. It happened at Franklin Regional Senior High School on April 9, 2014. Alex Hrisbal is in custody and awaiting trial.
Complaint: School stabbing suspect said, 'I have more people to kill'
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/25/justice/pennsylvania-school-stabbing/
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I dunno.
I think Chris died because of Elliott.
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I dunno.
I think Chris died because of Elliott.
That what I am thinking too.
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I'm wondering about something. If this DUchebag was such a social misfit that he couldn't get laid, one could assume that he didn't have a job. How'd he get the money to buy the weapons--his 'gun-hating (by their own admission)' family? Wouldn't they be complicit then?
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I'm wondering about something. If this DUchebag was such a social misfit that he couldn't get laid, one could assume that he didn't have a job. How'd he get the money to buy the weapons--his 'gun-hating (by their own admission)' family? Wouldn't they be complicit then?
Don't forget the BMW also.
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How about mommy and daddy take some responsibility for raising a kid that probably should have been in a home or hospital instead of let loose on the public. They gave him money and fancy car and who knows what else and I bet they didn't discipline him once when he got out of line.
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How about mommy and daddy take some responsibility for raising a kid that probably should have been in a home or hospital instead of let loose on the public. They gave him money and fancy car and who knows what else and I bet they didn't discipline him once when he got out of line.
Probably 100% correct.
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How about mommy and daddy take some responsibility for raising a kid that probably should have been in a home or hospital instead of let loose on the public. They gave him money and fancy car and who knows what else and I bet they didn't discipline him once when he got out of line.
Mommy and Daddy were divorced. This now deceased twerp probably had extreme skill playing them against each other to get whatever suited his whims. Short of hiring a call girl, obviously. At any rate, I don't think they'll be taking responsibility. I expect a lot of, "I didn't know ...," "I didn't realize ...," "I don't know what happened ...," noises from them.
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Will there be a new push to ban scary looking "assault" pistols now?
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Mommy and Daddy were divorced. This now deceased twerp probably had extreme skill playing them against each other to get whatever suited his whims. Short of hiring a call girl, obviously. At any rate, I don't think they'll be taking responsibility. I expect a lot of, "I didn't know ...," "I didn't realize ...," "I don't know what happened ...," noises from them.
Dead on. The family is soaked in left-wing ideology, and the main premise is "It's someone else's fault."
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He obtained the guns legally but I heard this morning that his own mom called the police and spoke with his therapist about his recent behavior. Um, therapist? legally obtained guns?
So she knew he was seeing a therapist, did she know about the guns he lied to get?
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He obtained the guns legally but I heard this morning that his own mom called the police and spoke with his therapist about his recent behavior. Um, therapist? legally obtained guns?
So she knew he was seeing a therapist, did she know about the guns he lied to get?
The answer to that question would be 'interesting' to obtain, would it not?
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Chris died because no girls would lower themselves to put out for a creep. blame the femiNazis.
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Chris died because no girls would lower themselves to put out for a creep. blame the femiNazis.
Yeh, shouldn't the women on DU be all over him for only viewing women good for one thing? :naughty:
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In another thread, DUmmies discussed how any man, if he really wants to, can find a girlfriend.
Then this:
Tue May 27, 2014, 05:40 PM
Aladeen2016 (6 posts)
52. I don't know
Some guys just can't, period.
I am 36 and never had any female attention. While I have no illusions that
I am a "magnificent, perfect gentlemen", or any other such silliness,
I understand his frustrations with seeing douchebaggy jocks and fratboys
have it really easy, and the average guy having it relatively easy compared
to me. I also do not go for the "hot blond" types...they usually turn me off.
NO woman wants me, I've learned to just deal with it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025006951#post52
I'm curious if DUmmy Aladeennumbers has a twin brother, or if stevenumbers has a sockpuppet.
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Tue May 27, 2014, 05:40 PM
Aladeen2016 (6 posts)
52. I don't know
Some guys just can't, period.
I am 36 and never had any female attention. While I have no illusions that
I am a "magnificent, perfect gentlemen", or any other such silliness,
I understand his frustrations with seeing douchebaggy jocks and fratboys
have it really easy, and the average guy having it relatively easy compared
to me. I also do not go for the "hot blond" types...they usually turn me off.
NO woman wants me, I've learned to just deal with it.
Try a man. :wink:
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If they manage to disarm the populace these sad sacks that can't get laid can rape women at will! That should prevent at least one death no?
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To bad bad someone with a CCP wasn't around to end it before he hurt so many. Ohhh wait, this was California.
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Aladeennumbers, stevenumbers, locopuffs. Can't get laid in a monkey whorehouse with a bagful of bananas.
Maybe the Tucson Tart can help them with that little problem. She takes pesos and plasma center vouchers; I'm sure she takes Canadian $5 bills, too.
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The more and more I read about this father (and yes I know he is in pain) the more I get pissed off. He doesn't blame the murderer one bit. He blames a damn organization that protects the rights afforded by our founding fathers. He doesn't blame the NKA for the knife used. He doesn't blame BMW for being used to plough over people. I'm sad to say but this man is using his kid's death to further his opinion about guns.
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The more and more I read about this father (and yes I know he is in pain) the more I get pissed off. He doesn't blame the murderer one bit. He blames a damn organization that protects the rights afforded by our founding fathers. He doesn't blame the NKA for the knife used. He doesn't blame BMW for being used to plough over people. I'm sad to say but this man is using his kid's death to further his opinion about guns.
Dead on, and the Left is well-known for their exploitation of people in pain to further their agenda.
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What we are forgetting is Chris had parents that since he was 13 had problems and tried their best to get him help.
Seems they gave away common sense and turned him over to the so called professionals ---
Much like the Mendez parents did and allowed these professionals to dictate to them how to raise their child. Sort of like everything you on instinct do to raise a child is wrong, we know more about your child then you do.
Mind you the Doctors see a child for an hour or so, they do not live with the child or see the child but on best behavior.
So the parents panic and go to not only his DR. but to the police. The cops are sent around most likely having any idea what this is all about, no heads up warning of any kind that the boy should be taken in to any secure place for his or others safety.
Some Cop made the decision that the boy was fine and dandy. The cop was not a Doctor, had not been trained in any kind of phyco babble, the kid looked find and he had no idea of any background but a wellness check up on the boy.
There are millions of parents whose children have been placed in neat little boxes as as disabled for some reason, some parents welcome a diagnosis that tells them it is not their fault,
some chemical imbalance in the child's brain that can be cured with a lot of chemicals and pills to change their behavior to what the parents expect.
BS. I know of some very well educated people who were placed in boxes by the professionals that their parents refused to surrender their children to them. The parents worked with the child same as one would work with a child needing physical therapy.
Cannot blame parents that for almost 10 years trying to get help for a child and after being told all those years the professionals and at the end the police knew best.
Prayers up for the parents that could have been me or you, or in the future may become me an you.
Actually the old time wood shed and a belt cured more boys of misbehavior then any 1000 Doctor of the mind.
The parents did what they could for their son, by todays laws they had their hands tied.
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What we are forgetting is Chris had parents that since he was 13 had problems and tried their best to get him help.
Seems they gave away common sense and turned him over to the so called professionals ---
Much like the Mendez parents did and allowed these professionals to dictate to them how to raise their child. Sort of like everything you on instinct do to raise a child is wrong, we know more about your child then you do.
Mind you the Doctors see a child for an hour or so, they do not live with the child or see the child but on best behavior.
So the parents panic and go to not only his DR. but to the police. The cops are sent around most likely having any idea what this is all about, no heads up warning of any kind that the boy should be taken in to any secure place for his or others safety.
Some Cop made the decision that the boy was fine and dandy. The cop was not a Doctor, had not been trained in any kind of phyco babble, the kid looked find and he had no idea of any background but a wellness check up on the boy.
There are millions of parents whose children have been placed in neat little boxes as as disabled for some reason, some parents welcome a diagnosis that tells them it is not their fault,
some chemical imbalance in the child's brain that can be cured with a lot of chemicals and pills to change their behavior to what the parents expect.
BS. I know of some very well educated people who were placed in boxes by the professionals that their parents refused to surrender their children to them. The parents worked with the child same as one would work with a child needing physical therapy.
Cannot blame parents that for almost 10 years trying to get help for a child and after being told all those years the professionals and at the end the police knew best.
Prayers up for the parents that could have been me or you, or in the future may become me an you.
Actually the old time wood shed and a belt cured more boys of misbehavior then any 1000 Doctor of the mind.
The parents did what they could for their son, by todays laws they had their hands tied.
vesta, his dad shoots upskirt photos of women's asses for a living. I think we can say his parent's took an active role in his outcome.
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vesta, his dad shoots upskirt photos of women's asses for a living. I think we can say his parent's took an active role in his outcome.
At least their morals did. Though, the women whose asses he took pictures of seemed to know that they were being photographed.
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vesta, his dad shoots upskirt photos of women's asses for a living. I think we can say his parent's took an active role in his outcome.
So his father TOOK PHOTOES OF WOMANS BUTTS. Big deal, some fathers go away for years in the military, some dads are in jail for years, some kids have no ides who their father is.
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If you are doing something detrimental to the raising of your kid (booze, porn, drugs, abuse, etc) then you molded that kid into what they are presently.
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The more and more I read about this father (and yes I know he is in pain) the more I get pissed off. He doesn't blame the murderer one bit. He blames a damn organization that protects the rights afforded by our founding fathers. He doesn't blame the NKA for the knife used. He doesn't blame BMW for being used to plough over people. I'm sad to say but this man is using his kid's death to further his opinion about guns.
That was my first thought. The guy was out twice that I know of plastering his face on the media. THE SAME DAY.
That would not have been my reaction if it was my kid.
Right on queue: https://www.google.ca/#q=california+lawmakers+aim+to+tighten+handgun+restrictions
Looking at that restriction, they want to get rid of single shot hand guns that can be made auto.
The guy used semi-autos, BOUGHT that way. WTF.
He also used hammers, machetes, and a knife.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10857021/Elliot-Rodger-may-have-used-machetes-and-hammer-to-murder-house-mates-in-killing-chamber.html
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That was my first thought. The guy was out twice that I know of plastering his face on the media. THE SAME DAY.
That would not have been my reaction if it was my kid.
I know. I know it's not right to say how all should react after a child's death but the same day? next day? leading 20,000 people screaming about politicians? I mean damn, dude.
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his dad shoots upskirt photos of women's asses for a living.
So he's an anti-gun wacko, but he's not all bad.
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The more and more I read about this father (and yes I know he is in pain) the more I get pissed off. He doesn't blame the murderer one bit. He blames a damn organization that protects the rights afforded by our founding fathers. He doesn't blame the NKA for the knife used. He doesn't blame BMW for being used to plough over people. I'm sad to say but this man is using his kid's death to further his opinion about guns.
I'll take it a step farther.
CA has as legislation, a gun control enthusiasts dream list:
Waiting periods, background checks on ALL gun sales, magazine capacity limits, assault weapon bans, and registration.
This clown blaming the nra, is not only to further his opinion on guns and try to force it on anyone else he can, but also to deflect from the fact that gun control types in CA get everything they want in terms of legislation, and it fails time after time after time. And of course, to build a bandwagon for the non-thinkers to jump on, in an effort to demonize the only real opposition to the infringement of a right that tens of millions of people hold dear - that being the NRA.
Its nonsense plain and simple, but its to be expected from these unthinking so called "intellectual" types. The only bright spot in all this, if there even is one, is that the "ban guns" types will feel emboldened and their masks will slip just a little more, and show yet more people their true colors.
And it will be reflected at the polls. Nobody motivates pro-gun people more than gun banners.
CMD
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Why is it that the one anti-gun dad is the only one all over the media? Couldn't be the leftist media portraying only what they want...right? :mad:
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Why is it that the one anti-gun dad is the only one all over the media? Couldn't be the leftist media portraying only what they want...right? :mad:
Pretty much,
Son of an anti-gun clown, killed by the son of another anti-gun clown, in a state with all the laws anti-gunners have tried to get for the last 20 years, but the media is all too happy to have him on saying how its the nras fault.
It strains the boundaries of belief, not that thats ever slowed them down any.
CMD
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It starts at birth the child learns to control others for their wants, needs and desires.
So easy to give in to the child for ones peace of mind and have no guilt feelings of being an old meanie.
We see them often in stores, little toddlers all tuckered out from trying to keep up with an adult who for every step they take the child must take 3-4 to keep up. After an hour or so the child will just sit down and refuse to move, its feet and legs hurt, all the child needs is home and its own bed. Heard the expression of being over tired or over stimulated ?
It goes on I have seen kids as old as 8 years old throw a fit when the adult refuses to buy them something in a store. Adults give in so as to not make a scene.
By the time the child is 12 they are well on their way in the control department, the schools have taught them how to strangle the parents with laws that protect them from being held accountable for their actions.
Parents today have a hard road to hoe, they are up against the so called professionals who will not even knowing the child tell you that children must express them selves and applauded when they take markers to expensive wall paper or set the cat on fire.
My heart goes out to the parents of Chris, the last 10 years must have been a nightmare for them. They tried with hands tied, no wood shed for the child, no down right sit down talks that in any way abused the child's ego, none of this " look you little bastard, ship up or ship out "
I have neighbors that had a 22 year old son living with them. The man had been put into 4-5 boxes by the school system and now found his life a breeze, he held his parents as hostage.
When he wanted something and did not get it he became violent towards his father, an old man in a wheel chair. When the father tried to protect himself and fought back it was the father who was blamed for the altercation.
End of story is when his father passed away his mother found a man who moved in and threw her son out, sort of it's that son or me make your choice.
UP shot is the son found work, and for the first time in his life a girlfriend, he was free of all the enabling forces in his life and had to fend for himself.
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End of story is when his father passed away his mother found a man who moved in and threw her son out, sort of it's that son or me make your choice.
UP shot is the son found work, and for the first time in his life a girlfriend, he was free of all the enabling forces in his life and had to fend for himself.
So I take it he's not posting on the island anymore?
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So I take it he's not posting on the island anymore?
No the kid is doing fine. Now that he got away from all the enablers in his life and had to face life as a DIY